Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
I don't know, ignorance I could claim. Was unaware that this site or list even existed until doing a wee bit on investigating. I'm so glad I happened across you'all (Texas talk) however. Smile I belong to another forum with some great folks who have helped me tremendously in the past year to get past and move into the surreal realm of CSS and Validation etc. It took me quite a bit to absorb the concept! Now it appears that I have been labeled the compliance stickler on that forum. I am often asked why, my response in Because I can. My site (personal) serves as my testing grounds. My pet peeve is, stuff not validatinggo figure. I love the FF Web Developers tool bar and the tidy addon, whatever it is called! Great tool! That way I get to see which sites validate and which do not. (giggle, even standards sites show if not errors, warnings). PetPeeve: I wanted a guestbook, found one, installed it, then found out the darned old php code was fraught with invalidations. Not knowing a thing about php, I crossed my fingers, jumped in and fixed it! Took me days and days. I made several mistakes! My question is this, why oh why can't one who knows how to do those things, build them to validate before they release them for public consumption? How darn hard is it to specify the php to write out alt tags for images, or table summaries in tables and so on? Excuse me whilst I growl, grr. So in short, I am glad to be here, where I am not only folk, to whom it matters. Onward and upwards! Now if someone or the WC3 would find a valid alternative for the Onresize attribute! I would be a happy camper. BIG SMILE I don't know how to get smiles in an email, forgive me. Sharron - Original Message - From: Mugur Padurean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Hi Sharon :) What took you so long ... ? :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Sharon wrote: [...] I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. [...] Welcome Sharon! Sincerely, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ http://accessites.org/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PMSubject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Thank you for your kind welcome. I am excited about learning more. I wish there were more minutes in a day so I could absorb all that I can. I am quite afraid that I am more limited by my brain cells, then time constraints though. Paul, I am not all that far from you, Waco area. I see from the site itself there is a member actually in Waco. I sure hope that I can capture the way these notices or emails work, it is a bit daunting for a newbie. I have setup new rules, in outlook hoping to download all messages from WSG into one folder, but have yet to manage to catch but a few! Now that I have posted from my site email address, I am getting these emails, in my inbox, my site folder, and the folder I had initially set up to receive them! I am looking forward to more participation here, but I fear that I don't have much to offer. I am sure I will be able to offer up a css challenge once in awhile. But then again, most here seem to have a firm grasp on everything! Sharron - Original Message - From: Paul Menard To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PMSubject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006
RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Welcome Sharron.. Im in Austin too! (just in case you were wondering J ) ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Menard Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PM Subject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Texas, really is a great placeisn't it! smile - Original Message - From: Helmut Granda To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Welcome Sharron.. Im in Austin too! (just in case you were wondering J ) ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul MenardSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:13 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PMSubject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006
RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! -Original Message-From: Helmut Granda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 7:35 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Welcome Sharron.. Im in Austin too! (just in case you were wondering J ) ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul MenardSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:13 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PMSubject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron
RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
trust the Texans to be loud! ;) Tip - a great resource site: http://www.alvit.de/handbook/ [web developer's handbook] Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herrod, Lisa Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:38 AM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! -Original Message- From: Helmut Granda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 7:35 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Welcome Sharron.. Im in Austin too! (just in case you were wondering J ) ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Menard Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PM Subject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Herrod, Lisa wrote: Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! And more powers to them ;-) Welcome, Sharron mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
South by South West - specifically the Interactive festival, being held in Austin in just a few weeks. http://www.sxsw.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 11:40 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? An event where you can meet many folks from this list: http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/ -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
well, I'll be, I should have been able to figure that out! Off to check out the link you so kindly provided. Sharron - Original Message - From: Herrod, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission South by South West - specifically the Interactive festival, being held in Austin in just a few weeks. http://www.sxsw.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 11:40 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Actually to reply to to Jan first. There is (or was) a WSG group here in Austin. At least as of SXSW 2005. They had a big party over at Frog Design. Great group of folks. I'm on a mailing or invite for the monthly meeting. Have been traveling and you know according to Murphy's law I will always be on the road during the monthly meeting. I'll dig up the site or email and pass it on to the folks here in Austin. As for the question what is this...SXSW? Wow I've never quite had to answer this to another Texan. Try this link http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/ SXSW started as a music only festival back in the 1980s. The Film and Interactive (that's us web and UI folks) came later in the 1990s. It's a 4-day get together were we attend panels to hear about thing people are doing. Sort of a trade show but not for any one vendor. Last year the keynote speakers were Jeffry Zeldman (in person) and Malcom Gladwell (Tipping point and Blink author). Also in attendance were Eric Meyer, Doug Bowman, Andy Budd, Jerremy Keith. The folks from down under from WestCiv who make an excellent CSS tool, Style Master. Sorry for the name dropping there. Anyway it's really a lot of fun. P- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Dear Paul, Laughingly, I lead a rather sheltered life. Not to offer an excuse for being ignorant of such thing, I am not a native Texan, but quite proud to be a transplant and about a resident for more than 10 years! Thanks for the link, I will check it out. Sorry you will miss out on something you enjoy. Sharron - Original Message - From: Paul Menard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Actually to reply to to Jan first. There is (or was) a WSG group here in Austin. At least as of SXSW 2005. They had a big party over at Frog Design. Great group of folks. I'm on a mailing or invite for the monthly meeting. Have been traveling and you know according to Murphy's law I will always be on the road during the monthly meeting. I'll dig up the site or email and pass it on to the folks here in Austin. As for the question what is this...SXSW? Wow I've never quite had to answer this to another Texan. Try this link http://2006.sxsw.com/interactive/ SXSW started as a music only festival back in the 1980s. The Film and Interactive (that's us web and UI folks) came later in the 1990s. It's a 4-day get together were we attend panels to hear about thing people are doing. Sort of a trade show but not for any one vendor. Last year the keynote speakers were Jeffry Zeldman (in person) and Malcom Gladwell (Tipping point and Blink author). Also in attendance were Eric Meyer, Doug Bowman, Andy Budd, Jerremy Keith. The folks from down under from WestCiv who make an excellent CSS tool, Style Master. Sorry for the name dropping there. Anyway it's really a lot of fun. P- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
As promised. For those in and around Austin the Austin WSG group used to be on Meetup.com. Then the jerks wanted to start charging. So James Craig, the moderator, moved the list to Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AustinWSM/ Seems they still have monthly meetup. Maybe some folks from this list can all plan on attending a meeting. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AustinWSM/ P- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pardon me yet again, but what is this...SXSW ? - Original Message - From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission I'm here in Austin. [...] Im in Austin too! So you'll be the ones who should advise a good BBQ there, during SXSW ;) Oh I can see an Austin WSG forming already! A joint venture with Refresh (http://refreshaustin.org/) maybe? :) -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Hi Sharon :) What took you so long ... ? :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Welcome John! I'm sure you'll fit right in here. =) john wrote: Hello, everybody. I've been reading the list for a day or two, and I'm very excited to be part of the growing number of designers/developers who are taking a stand for standards. A little bit about me: I am originally from Seattle, Washington, USA, but moved to Portugal in April, 2003, in order to get off the fast track and slow my pace a little (it helps that my wife is Portuguese *grin*). I've been a Web developer since 1995, and started off on the right foot with learning HTML, coding by hand (via PICO), and using the tags for what they were meant for (rather than what they did to the appearance of a Web page). In 1998, however, I went to work for the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, who was naturally a strong supporter of Microsoft -- the result was that I was forced to start using FrontPage and Internet Explorer. In 2002, I switched to Dreamweaver (which permits me to hand-code again, with a few bells amp; whistles)...and a year ago I made Mozilla my default browser. Having just bought and devoured Jeffrey Zeldman's book, I am (again) a supporter and devout follower of Web standards and plan to redesign all my sites as time permits. Seems that, while I have a solid background in HTML, a natural tendency towards minimalist design, and some experience with CSS1, I have a lot to learn regarding CSS2. Forgive me, reader, for I have sinned against tables...bastardizing them for layout and whitespace. :/ I have repented and am slowly making my way towards the light, which is why I have joined this list, as I hope to get support in my efforts. -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse inline: getfirefox.gif
Re: [WSG] introduction
Welcome ... ! I am glad to see here people like you, who wants to help, and learn from other developers and designers. - Original Message - From: Jeremy S. (WSG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:24:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [WSG] introduction To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome John! I'm sure you'll fit right in here. =) john wrote: Hello, everybody. I've been reading the list for a day or two, and I'm very excited to be part of the growing number of designers/developers who are taking a stand for standards. A little bit about me: I am originally from Seattle, Washington, USA, but moved to Portugal in April, 2003, in order to get off the fast track and slow my pace a little (it helps that my wife is Portuguese *grin*). I've been a Web developer since 1995, and started off on the right foot with learning HTML, coding by hand (via PICO), and using the tags for what they were meant for (rather than what they did to the appearance of a Web page). In 1998, however, I went to work for the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, who was naturally a strong supporter of Microsoft -- the result was that I was forced to start using FrontPage and Internet Explorer. In 2002, I switched to Dreamweaver (which permits me to hand-code again, with a few bells amp; whistles)...and a year ago I made Mozilla my default browser. Having just bought and devoured Jeffrey Zeldman's book, I am (again) a supporter and devout follower of Web standards and plan to redesign all my sites as time permits. Seems that, while I have a solid background in HTML, a natural tendency towards minimalist design, and some experience with CSS1, I have a lot to learn regarding CSS2. Forgive me, reader, for I have sinned against tables...bastardizing them for layout and whitespace. :/ I have repented and am slowly making my way towards the light, which is why I have joined this list, as I hope to get support in my efforts. -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] introduction
hey, welcome to the club!happy transition to css2. - Original Message - From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:27:46 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] introduction Hello, everybody. I've been reading the list for a day or two, and I'm very excited to be part of the growing number of designers/developers who are taking a stand for standards. A little bit about me: I am originally from Seattle, Washington, USA, but moved to Portugal in April, 2003, in order to get off the fast track and slow my pace a little (it helps that my wife is Portuguese *grin*). I've been a Web developer since 1995, and started off on the right foot with learning HTML, coding by hand (via PICO), and using the tags for what they were meant for (rather than what they did to the appearance of a Web page). In 1998, however, I went to work for the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, who was naturally a strong supporter of Microsoft -- the result was that I was forced to start using FrontPage and Internet Explorer. In 2002, I switched to Dreamweaver (which permits me to hand-code again, with a few bells whistles)...and a year ago I made Mozilla my default browser. Having just bought and devoured Jeffrey Zeldman's book, I am (again) a supporter and devout follower of Web standards and plan to redesign all my sites as time permits. Seems that, while I have a solid background in HTML, a natural tendency towards minimalist design, and some experience with CSS1, I have a lot to learn regarding CSS2. Forgive me, reader, for I have sinned against tables...bastardizing them for layout and whitespace. :/ I have repented and am slowly making my way towards the light, which is why I have joined this list, as I hope to get support in my efforts. -- ~john Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- ___ Graffiti.net free e-mail @ www.graffiti.net Check out our value-added Premium features, such as a 1 GB mailbox for just US$9.95 per year! Powered by Outblaze ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Introduction and call for help
Welcome, Chris.
Regarding the flickering of that Design Resources
image, I believe it's a symptom of not having specified a height for that
element. Hence, if you change its CSS to:
#resource
{background-image:
url(images/design.gif); background-repeat:
no-repeat; background-position: center top;
padding-top:25px; height:
25px;}
This will remove the flickering. This
flickeringdoesn't happen only with images; it can occur with text,
too.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
SomeNewKid
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Gandolfo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 6:44 AM
Subject: [WSG] Introduction and call for
help
Hi! Well, let me start with a short introduction of myself.
My name is Chris Gandolfo. I graduated in December from the University
of Idaho with a bachelor degree in Visual Communication and a minor in
Art. My emphasis is in Interface Design and for the past year and a
half I have been immersing myself in Web Standards and CSS. I will be
beginning my career in just a few short weeks as a Creative Services
Design Intern for Twelve Horses North America located in Reno, NV
(http://www.twelvehorses.com).
Now on to my problem... I have been using my personal
site as a learning tool and a place to test my skills. I have run into
a problem with the latest design and can not get my head around
it. First, the site can be viewed at http://www.c7designs.com and css at
http;//www.c7designs.com/t1.css Everything works
pretty well except I'm getting an IE image flicker that is atypical of
anything I have ever seen before. The image I am speaking of is the
"Design Resources" image in the right hand column. On page load the
image is fine, but then it disappears when you mouse over any navigation
item or scroll, but it does not happen to the other two background
images in that column. I can not figure out why that one image is being
targeted when all three are set up the same. None of them are being
used for navigation. Any help would be appreciated!!
Chris
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