Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Peter Sumner]

Hello Alan (vk2ziw),
CAT is sort of important to WSPR users as this allows us to do automated
band hopping, it also helps to stop spotting of activity on the wrong band
(WSPR and other modes) as if WSJT-X has a CAT link then it will know when
you change the frequency on the rig and then change the band for spots
to WSPRnet / pskreporter and the ADIF export for your logging program.

How many times have you seen bad spots on WSPRnet (like over 10,000 Km on
144.489)?  most of these erroreous spots are from non CAT linked users that
have forgoten to update WSJT-X when they do a manual band change.

Peter, vk5pj

>> >From: Alan VK2ZIW 
>> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:41 PM
>> >To: WSJT software development
>> >Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >Why do you need CAT control at all?
>> >
>> >What's really needed is a rig with Stability.
>> >
>> >Any rig with a digital VFO will do.
>> >
>> >My 2c.
>> >
>> >Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.
>> >
>> >Alan VK2ZIW
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
>> >> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early† or “NoGet† would require the
user to
>> know more about what’s going on with these devices.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael > mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the
riglist?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> FT-840EARLY  ???
>> >> Or
>> >> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
>> >> FT-840NOGET
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Or any better idea?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> de Mike W9MDB
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer <
>> k...@khk.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can
>> receive CAT commands, but does not report anything back.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I
can
>> build you one for testing.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> de Mike W9MDB
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud <
>> shanestroud1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu
>> FT-847 had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send
>> frequencies and modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This
applies
>> to serial numbers through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set
>> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other
hamlib
>> programs seem to work with the rig without issue.
>> ___
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Alan
>> >
>> >Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.
>> >Consider the Christmas child.
>>
>>
>---
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>> etc..
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>> assembler
>> >0414 353013 (mobile) After uni, electronics tech
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Jim Shorney]

 which you also don't need if you have a clean audio chain with reasonably
flat response and you don't drive it into clipping!

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 23:10:32 -0400, Bill Pence wrote:

>Well, other than the 'fake it' frequency control options to keep the tx
>audio in the middle of the passband...
>
>On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 11:09 PM Jim Shorney  wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a myth that you need CAT for digital modes. In fact you don't need
>> it at
>> all.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> -Jim
>> NU0C
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:29:30 +, Shane Stroud wrote:
>>
>> >  CAT...  because that's kinda the point with most digital modes these
>> days.  And it's an FT-847, not 840.
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Alan VK2ZIW 
>> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:41 PM
>> >To: WSJT software development
>> >Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >Why do you need CAT control at all?
>> >
>> >What's really needed is a rig with Stability.
>> >
>> >Any rig with a digital VFO will do.
>> >
>> >My 2c.
>> >
>> >Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.
>> >
>> >Alan VK2ZIW
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
>> >> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user 
>> >> to
>> know more about what’s going on with these devices.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael > mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> FT-840EARLY  ???
>> >> Or
>> >> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
>> >> FT-840NOGET
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Or any better idea?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> de Mike W9MDB
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer <
>> k...@khk.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can
>> receive CAT commands, but does not report anything back.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can
>> build you one for testing.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> de Mike W9MDB
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud <
>> shanestroud1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu
>> FT-847 had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send
>> frequencies and modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies
>> to serial numbers through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set
>> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib
>> programs seem to work with the rig without issue.
>> ___
>> >wsjt-devel mailing list
>> >wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>> >___
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>> >wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Alan
>> >
>> >Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.
>> >Consider the Christmas child.
>>
>> >---
>> >Alan Beard   Unix Support Technician from 1984 to today
>> >70 Wedmore Rd.   Sun Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, Linux, SCO, MIPS
>> >Emu Heights N.S.W. 2750  Routers, terminal servers, printers, terminals
>> etc..
>> >+61 2 47353013 (h)   Support Programming, shell scripting, "C",
>> assembler
>> >0414 353013 (mobile) After uni, electronics tech
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A.
>> TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A,
>> GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time!
>>
>> "Give a man a URL and he will learn for an hour. Teach him to Google and
>> he will learn for a lifetime."
>>
>> HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/
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>>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Bill Pence]

Well, other than the 'fake it' frequency control options to keep the tx
audio in the middle of the passband...

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 11:09 PM Jim Shorney  wrote:

>
> It is a myth that you need CAT for digital modes. In fact you don't need
> it at
> all.
>
> 73
>
> -Jim
> NU0C
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:29:30 +, Shane Stroud wrote:
>
> >  CAT...  because that's kinda the point with most digital modes these
> days.  And it's an FT-847, not 840.
> >
> >
> >From: Alan VK2ZIW 
> >Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:41 PM
> >To: WSJT software development
> >Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Why do you need CAT control at all?
> >
> >What's really needed is a rig with Stability.
> >
> >Any rig with a digital VFO will do.
> >
> >My 2c.
> >
> >Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.
> >
> >Alan VK2ZIW
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
> >> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user to
> know more about what’s going on with these devices.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >Karl Heinz - K5KHK
> >>
> >
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael  mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
> >>
> >
> >> FT-840EARLY  ???
> >> Or
> >> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
> >> FT-840NOGET
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Or any better idea?
> >>
> >
> >> de Mike W9MDB
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer <
> k...@khk.net> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can
> receive CAT commands, but does not report anything back.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
> >>
> >
> >> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can
> build you one for testing.
> >>
> >
> >> de Mike W9MDB
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud <
> shanestroud1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu
> FT-847 had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send
> frequencies and modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies
> to serial numbers through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.
> >>
> >
> >> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set
> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
> >>
> >
> >> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib
> programs seem to work with the rig without issue.
> ___
> >wsjt-devel mailing list
> >wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
> >___
> >wsjt-devel mailing list
> >wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Alan
> >
> >Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.
> >Consider the Christmas child.
>
> >---
> >Alan Beard   Unix Support Technician from 1984 to today
> >70 Wedmore Rd.   Sun Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, Linux, SCO, MIPS
> >Emu Heights N.S.W. 2750  Routers, terminal servers, printers, terminals
> etc..
> >+61 2 47353013 (h)   Support Programming, shell scripting, "C",
> assembler
> >0414 353013 (mobile) After uni, electronics tech
> >
>
>
> --
> Ham Radio NU0C
> Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A.
> TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A,
> GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time!
>
> "Give a man a URL and he will learn for an hour. Teach him to Google and
> he will learn for a lifetime."
>
> HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/
> http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney
> http://www.nebraskaghosts.org
>
>
>
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Jim Shorney]

It is a myth that you need CAT for digital modes. In fact you don't need it at
all. 

73

-Jim
NU0C


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 02:29:30 +, Shane Stroud wrote:

>  CAT...  because that's kinda the point with most digital modes these days.  
> And it's an FT-847, not 840.
>
>
>From: Alan VK2ZIW 
>Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:41 PM
>To: WSJT software development
>Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847
>
>Hi all,
>
>Why do you need CAT control at all?
>
>What's really needed is a rig with Stability.
>
>Any rig with a digital VFO will do.
>
>My 2c.
>
>Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.
>
>Alan VK2ZIW
>
>
>On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
>> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user to know 
>> more about what’s going on with these devices.
>
>>
>>
>Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>>
>
>
>>
>
>> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael 
>> mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
>>
>
>> FT-840EARLY  ???
>> Or
>> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
>> FT-840NOGET
>
>>
>
>> Or any better idea?
>>
>
>> de Mike W9MDB
>
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer 
>> mailto:k...@khk.net>> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive 
>> CAT commands, but does not report anything back.
>
>>
>>
>
>> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>> mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
>>
>
>> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can 
>> build you one for testing.
>>
>
>> de Mike W9MDB
>
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
>> mailto:shanestroud1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
>> had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and 
>> modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial 
>> numbers through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.
>>
>
>> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set 
>> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
>>
>
>> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
>> programs seem to work with the rig without issue.  
>> ___
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>
>
>Alan
>
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>Consider the Christmas child.
>---
>Alan Beard   Unix Support Technician from 1984 to today
>70 Wedmore Rd.   Sun Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, Linux, SCO, MIPS
>Emu Heights N.S.W. 2750  Routers, terminal servers, printers, terminals etc..
>+61 2 47353013 (h)   Support Programming, shell scripting, "C", assembler
>0414 353013 (mobile) After uni, electronics tech
>


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HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time!

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will learn for a lifetime."

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Shane Stroud]

  CAT...  because that's kinda the point with most digital modes these days.  
And it's an FT-847, not 840.


From: Alan VK2ZIW 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:41 PM
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

Hi all,

Why do you need CAT control at all?

What's really needed is a rig with Stability.

Any rig with a digital VFO will do.

My 2c.

Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.

Alan VK2ZIW


On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user to know more 
> about what’s going on with these devices.

>
>
Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>


>

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael 
> mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

>
> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
>

> FT-840EARLY  ???
> Or
> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
> FT-840NOGET

>

> Or any better idea?
>

> de Mike W9MDB

>

>
>

>

>

>
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer 
> mailto:k...@khk.net>> wrote:
>

>

>
> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive 
> CAT commands, but does not report anything back.

>
>

> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
>



>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
> mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:

>
> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
>

> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
> you one for testing.
>

> de Mike W9MDB

>

>
>

>

>

>
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
> mailto:shanestroud1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>

>

>
> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
> had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and 
> modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers 
> through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.
>

> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set 
> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
>

> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
> programs seem to work with the rig without issue.  
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Alan VK2ZIW]

Hi all,

Why do you need CAT control at all?

What's really needed is a rig with Stability.

Any rig with a digital VFO will do.

My 2c.

Yes, I have an FT-840 and it's OK.

Alan VK2ZIW

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:54:42 -0400, Karl Heinz Kremer wrote
> FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user to know more 
> about what’s going on with these devices. 
> 
> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael  wrote:
> 
> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
> 
> FT-840EARLY  ???
> Or
> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
> FT-840NOGET
> 
> Or any better idea?
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive 
> CAT commands, but does not report anything back. 
> 
> 
> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
> 
> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
> you one for testing.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
> had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and 
> modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers 
> through about 8G. Mine isan 8E series.  
> 
> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set 
> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
> 
> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
> programs seem to work with the rig without issue. 
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[wsjt-devel] Rc2 ft8 72 bit vs 77 bit?

[Bill Pence]

Ok. I tried some tests.
I do decode both 77 bit and old messages
I had a buddy send an old cq and 77 bit cq.
I decided both.

But  I did not select the always generate 77 bit messages so I expected to
answer with the format I decoded.  That was not the case ???

Is this intended operation? I know for the rc release it is wasted code as
the GA version is 77 bit only.

In this case, if I do not select decode only 77 bit messages, how do I know
how to answer? Is there something i missed in the GUI window to  show I got
a 77 bit vs old message?


It sort of seems like the 2 message format check boxes could be 1 box for
new format

KI4US
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Gary Kohtala - K7EK via wsjt-devel]

I also have an early FT-847 with SN beginning with 8G. I was one of the 
earliest adopters of that rig. I wish there was a way to upgrade the firmware.  
I have not tried it with WSJT-X but will do so and report back to the group.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK


  From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 To: WSJT software development ; Karl Heinz 
Kremer  
Cc: Black Michael 
 Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 10:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847
   
What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
FT-840EARLY  ???OrFT-840UNI (unidirectional)FT-840NOGET

Or any better idea?
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer 
 wrote:  
 
 This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive CAT 
commands, but does not report anything back. 

Karl Heinz - K5KHK


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:

What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
you one for testing.
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
 wrote:  
 
  I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and modes 
to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers through 
about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.  
In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set frequency 
and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
programs seem to work with the rig without issue. 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Shane Stroud]

I am still using 1.9.1 Linux amd64 deb, but I could easily be persuaded to 
upgrade. And I'm a willing guinea pig.

Yes.  An early identification tag of some kind would help.

The fix wasn't just firmware.  It required replacement of the entire AF board.  
Yaesu discontinued their practice of making the fix for free years ago.  Now 
they just send a canned "we can't help you" email.  I did reach one tech who 
explained that it wasn't just the firmware fix we always thought it was.


 Original message 
From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
Date: 10/8/18 9:46 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: WSJT software development 
Cc: Black Michael 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?

Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
you one for testing.

de Mike W9MDB




On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
 wrote:


I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 had 
unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and modes to 
the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers through 
about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.

In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set frequency 
and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.

I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
programs seem to work with the rig without issue.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Karl Heinz Kremer]

FT-840UNI would be OK. “Early” or “NoGet” would require the user to know more 
about what’s going on with these devices. 

Karl Heinz - K5KHK


> On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Black Michael  wrote:
> 
> What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
> 
> FT-840EARLY  ???
> Or
> FT-840UNI (unidirectional)
> FT-840NOGET
> 
> Or any better idea?
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive 
> CAT commands, but does not report anything back. 
> 
> Karl Heinz - K5KHK
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
> mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
> What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
> 
> Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
> you one for testing.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
> mailto:shanestroud1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
> had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and 
> modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers 
> through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.  
> 
> In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set 
> frequency and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
> 
> I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
> programs seem to work with the rig without issue. 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Magne Mæhre]

On 10/08/2018 04:29 PM, Shane Stroud wrote:
> I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu
> FT-847 had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send
> frequencies and modes to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This
> applies to serial numbers through about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.  

To be exact, the firmware modification enabling bi-directional CAT was
introduced in 8G05 (fifth production run (05), May (G) 1998 (8))

It would seem a firmware upgrade is technically possible, but you
have to send it in to get it done. Might be too late now.
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2008-November/015075.html

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

What can we call these earlier rigs to make the apparent in the riglist?
FT-840EARLY  ???OrFT-840UNI (unidirectional)FT-840NOGET

Or any better idea?
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:47:05 AM CDT, Karl Heinz Kremer 
 wrote:  
 
 This also seems to be the case with my early Yaesu FT-840 - it can receive CAT 
commands, but does not report anything back. 

Karl Heinz - K5KHK


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:44 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:

What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
you one for testing.
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
 wrote:  
 
  I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and modes 
to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers through 
about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.  
In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set frequency 
and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
programs seem to work with the rig without issue. 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

What version of WSJT-X are you using right now?
Looks like we need a new rig entry for the earlier serial #'s and I can build 
you one for testing.
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Monday, October 8, 2018, 9:34:22 AM CDT, Shane Stroud 
 wrote:  
 
  I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 
had unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and modes 
to the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers through 
about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.  
In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set frequency 
and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.
I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
programs seem to work with the rig without issue. 
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[wsjt-devel] Yaesu FT-847

[Shane Stroud]

I have discovered that the early serial numbered models of the Yaesu FT-847 had 
unidirectional CAT.  Basically, the software can send frequencies and modes to 
the rig, but the rig cannot respond.  This applies to serial numbers through 
about 8G. Mine is an 8E series.

In any version of WSJT, under any operating system, the rig will set frequency 
and mode, then error out because it cannot respond to polling.

I'm not sure if this needs fixed in WSJT or in hamlib, but other hamlib 
programs seem to work with the rig without issue.
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