[wsjt-devel] Misleading QTH info on JTAlert

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Laurie & Uwe,

As a ham who operates from several locations using the same call sign but 
different grid squares (FN33 & DM04), it often happens that other ops will be 
misdirected by JTAlert, leading them to believe they have contacted Vermont 
(FN33) when they have responded to my call clearly indicating my grid as 
(DM04).  

As proof to me that they have worked Vermont they will send me a screen shot or 
other image showing the JTAlert box misleading them to think so.

Is it possible to correct this?

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[wsjt-devel] Misleading QTH info on JTAlert

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Laurie & Uwe,

As a ham who operates from several locations using the same call sign but 
different grid squares (FN33 & DM04), it often happens that other ops will be 
misdirected by JTAlert, leading them to believe they have contacted Vermont 
(FN33) when they have responded to my call clearly indicating my grid as 
(DM04).  

As proof to me that they have worked Vermont they will send me a screen shot or 
other image showing the JTAlert box misleading them to think so.

Is it possible to correct this?

Many thanks, Ed
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Response to CQ ignored

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Many thanks to all who picked up this thread and especially to Uwe for 
providing a path forward.

I will get the revised software and report back if the problem persists.

I have also seen the problem mentioned by Joe.

This is a fantastic app, Uwe, so please accept my compliments!

73, Ed
W1KOK   



> On Jan 30, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Uwe, DG2YCB  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> At the moment, I have no explanation why it doesn't work with the "231202" i+ 
> version. What I can say is that it definitely works well with the current 
> "240106" code, as well as with the new "240202" version that will be released 
> on Friday this week. I recommend that you download this version on Friday and 
> then see whether the error persists or not. This version will also bring a 
> few nice new features, which I'll explain in the following video: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CqyIGRjbvs  
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CqyIGRjbvs>
> 
> 73 de DG2YCB,
> Uwe
> 
> German Amateur Radio Station DG2YCB
> Dr. Uwe Risse
> eMail: dg2...@gmx.de <mailto:dg2...@gmx.de>
> Info: www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB <http://www.qrz.com/db/DG2YCB>
> 
> 
> Am 30.01.2024 um 00:56 schrieb Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel:
>> I see this over and over….
>> 
>> Is it me or is this a bug?
>> 
>> I call CQ and someone responds.  But WSJT does not answer the caller.  It 
>> continues to call CQ until I force it to reply.
>> 
>> 73, Ed
>> W1KOK 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Response to CQ ignored

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Hi Sam,

Take a look at the screenshot, please.  The “CQ First” option is selected.

73, Ed



> On Jan 29, 2024, at 6:05 PM, Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Make sure you have the right option selected  "CQ:First"
> 
> 73,
> 
> Sam W2JDB
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 07:02:21 PM EST, Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I see this over and over….
> 
> Is it me or is this a bug?
> 
> I call CQ and someone responds.  But WSJT does not answer the caller.  It 
> continues to call CQ until I force it to reply.
> 
> 73, Ed
> W1KOK 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Show States for Grids in the Band Activity window

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Hello Reino,

Thanks.  

I’m certain it came from within WSJT-X.  I don’t use any auxiliary apps that 
could do this.

73, Ed

> On Jan 4, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> That message was appended to the display by some companion program as it is 
> impossible to convey the additional information using the FT8 CQ message and 
> the grid alone tells the state only by change.
>  
> 73, Reino OH3mA
>  
> From: Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: WSJT software development 
> Cc: Ed Stokes 
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] Show States for Grids in the Band Activity window
>  
> An earlier version (2.5 or 2.6?) had an option to show states within a grid 
> in the Band Activity window .
>  
> For example:  
> 125245 Tx 648 ~ CQ W1KOK FN33 VT NY
>  
> Has this feature been eliminated?
>  
> If not, how do I find and activate it?
>  
> Thank you, 
>  
> Ed 
> W1KOK 
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[wsjt-devel] Show States for Grids in the Band Activity window

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

An earlier version (2.5 or 2.6?) had an option to show states within a grid in 
the Band Activity window .

For example:  
125245  Tx   648 ~  CQ W1KOK FN33 VT NY

Has this feature been eliminated?

If not, how do I find and activate it?

Thank you, 

Ed 
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[wsjt-devel] Feature that showed states based on grids

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

In the past I have been able to opt to have the states within a caller’s grid 
show in the left window.

Is this feature still available?

Thanks 

Ed, W1KOK

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[wsjt-devel] SLAB_USBtoUART

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

I am contemplating the big leap to Mac OS Monterey on my MacBook Pro (13-inch, 
M1, 2020) from Big Sur.

I use SLAB_USBtoUART for the USB interface to my FT990A and all works well.

Should I anticipate any problem with this USB interface when switching to the 
Monterey OS?

Many thanks

Ed
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[wsjt-devel] Can't Use FT8 after installing FLRIG & FLDIGI

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

Yes… wrong mode!

Feeling a bit foolish but also grateful.

Many thanks… 

73, Ed
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.4 GA Release

[Ed Stokes via wsjt-devel]

I’m so tired of this, I’m going to unsubscribe.

73, Ed
W1KOK

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 11:46 AM, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Il 03/01/22 13:54, Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel ha scritto:
> 
>> Please welcome two new members of the core WSJT Development group: Chet 
>> Fennell, KG4IYS, and Uwe Risse, DG2YCB.  Each brings important skills and 
>> experience to the project, after the loss of Bill Somerville, G4WJS
> 
> Thanks for the new release Joe!
> 
> A warm welcome to the new core members: Chet Fennell, KG4IYS, and Uwe Risse, 
> DG2YCB 
> 
> I've already compiled the 2.5.4 version for Linux and now the aesthetic "fcl" 
> detail on the main window is not showed anymore.
> 
> Also I'm curious to see if the seldom program crashes would be still 
> occurring.
> 
> Best regards!
> 
> ---
> 73 de Marco, PY1ZRJ (former IK5BCU)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.0 GA Release

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Why does "CQ DX" revert to simply CQ?

73, Ed


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FTdx101MP Fail

[Ed Stokes]

If the Yaesu is in “MT” (memory tuning mode) instead of VFO mode, this will 
result.

The solution:  Return the radio to VFO mode.

73, Ed
W1KOK



> On May 27, 2021, at 7:24 AM, Ed Stokes  wrote:
> 
> Up until yesterday morning I was running 2.4.0-rc4 6dc6f7 on my Mac (Catalina 
> 10.15.7 with no problem.
> 
> Since trying to start yesterday, no matter what workaround I try, I get this 
> message.
> 
> 
>> Hamlib error: Feature not implemented
>> newcat_set_freq: special_60m=0, 60m freq=0, is_ftdx3000=0
>> newcat.c(784):newcat_set_freq return(-4)
>> rig.c(1724):rig_set_freq return(-4) while setting frequency
> 
> What is the solution to this problem?
> 
> 73, Ed
> W1KOK
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
>> 
>> On 01/12/2020 17:42, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> Seems the current version rc2 (and perhaps older versions) doesn't shrink 
>>> vertically as far as it used to.
>>> 
>>> Would prefer to be able to shrink it vertically -- really down to almost 
>>> nothing on the decode lines so we can gain more vertical real estate.
>>> 
>>> Mike W9MDB
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> thanks for the issue report. It is fixed for the next release.
>> 
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>> 
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[wsjt-devel] Yaesu FTdx101MP Fail

[Ed Stokes]

The solution to this problem turned out to be “Turn off Memory Tuning” and 
return to VFO mode!



> Up until yesterday morning I was running 2.4.0-rc4 6dc6f7 on my Mac (Catalina 
> 10.15.7 with no problem.
> 
> Since trying to start yesterday, no matter what workaround I try, I get this 
> message.
> 
> 
>> Hamlib error: Feature not implemented
>> newcat_set_freq: special_60m=0, 60m freq=0, is_ftdx3000=0
>> newcat.c(784):newcat_set_freq return(-4)
>> rig.c(1724):rig_set_freq return(-4) while setting frequency
> 
> What is the solution to this problem?
> 
> 73, Ed
> W1KOK
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Yaesu FTdx101MP Fail

[Ed Stokes]

Up until yesterday morning I was running 2.4.0-rc4 6dc6f7 on my Mac (Catalina 
10.15.7 with no problem.

Since trying to start yesterday, no matter what workaround I try, I get this 
message.


> Hamlib error: Feature not implemented
> newcat_set_freq: special_60m=0, 60m freq=0, is_ftdx3000=0
> newcat.c(784):newcat_set_freq return(-4)
> rig.c(1724):rig_set_freq return(-4) while setting frequency

What is the solution to this problem?

73, Ed
W1KOK



> On Dec 1, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 01/12/2020 17:42, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> Seems the current version rc2 (and perhaps older versions) doesn't shrink 
>> vertically as far as it used to.
>> 
>> Would prefer to be able to shrink it vertically -- really down to almost 
>> nothing on the decode lines so we can gain more vertical real estate.
>> 
>> Mike W9MDB
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> thanks for the issue report. It is fixed for the next release.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] macOS Transmit Audio Problem

[Ed Stokes]

Hey David,

Have you tried taking audio directly from your Mac’s headphone jack?

I run a Mac mini using just the headphone and mic jacks which are built in.  
I’ve also used a small USB/audio dongle successfully.

Try changing your prefs and see if you hear audio on the headphones when you 
ask wsjt to transmit.

Another way to check audio on the mac's output which I use:

open a web browser
use the Mac as a tone generator:  
https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ 

you can verify audio output by  listening with headphones
when you’ve verified audio output, feed it to the transceiver and 
adjust your mic and power

Good luck.

73, Ed
W1KOK 

> On Nov 3, 2020, at 9:25 AM, David Kaplan via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I posted this on the main WSJT group with no response.
> 
> I'm running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, and recently intentionally erased my iMac 
> and added all the programs back manually (rather than a restore) to delete 6 
> years of crud (a technical term). Now I have WSJT-X 2.3.0 rc1 installed and 
> am having an audio problem. The audio pref panels shows USB Audio Codec for 
> transmit and receive, and receive populates the waterfall and decodes many 
> stations.
> 
> My problem is that my IC-756Pro III keys, but does not transmit any audio. I 
> checked and the power slider on the right side of WSJT-X is at its highest 
> (for testing). I'm using a Timewave Navigator and checked that the controls 
> haven't changed since I successfully transmitted before these changes, and 
> I'm not hearing any audio from the Navigator.  I tried testing on WSJT-X 
> 2.2.2 but had the same problem.
> 
> Any thoughts on where to investigate next?
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> 
> David, WA1OUI 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.3.0rc1 Mac Bug?

[Ed Stokes]

FYI…

The instruction in the readme file to move the sysctl file reads:

sudo  cp  /Volumes/WSJT-X/sysctl.conf  /etc

This did not work for me as the file was on the desktop.  I used this instead.

sudo cp Desktop/sysctl.conf  /etc

Thanks to all of the volunteers who make WSJT-X work!

Ed
W1KOK 

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> you are replying to an email thread that already contains the answer to the 
> issue you are reporting:
> 
> https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/message/16844 
> <https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/message/16844>
> 
> for details.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> On 28/09/2020 02:57, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> I get “Shared Memory Error” trying to start… running High Sierra on a Mac 
>> mini.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:35 PM, George J Molnar >> <mailto:geo...@molnar.tv>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2.3.0rc1 fails with the dreaded “unable to create memory” error. Here is 
>>> the result AFTER a reboot.
>>> 
>>> Running Catalina 10.15.7
>>> 
>>> 
>>> georgemolnar@Georges-Mac-mini ~ % sysctl -a | grep sysv.shm
>>> kern.sysv.shmmax: 14680064
>>> kern.sysv.shmmin: 1
>>> kern.sysv.shmmni: 128
>>> kern.sysv.shmseg: 32
>>> kern.sysv.shmall: 17920
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> George J Molnar
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.3.0rc1 Mac Bug?

[Ed Stokes]

I get “Shared Memory Error” trying to start… running High Sierra on a Mac mini.



> On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:35 PM, George J Molnar  wrote:
> 
> 2.3.0rc1 fails with the dreaded “unable to create memory” error. Here is the 
> result AFTER a reboot.
> 
> Running Catalina 10.15.7
> 
> 
> georgemolnar@Georges-Mac-mini ~ % sysctl -a | grep sysv.shm
> kern.sysv.shmmax: 14680064
> kern.sysv.shmmin: 1
> kern.sysv.shmmni: 128
> kern.sysv.shmseg: 32
> kern.sysv.shmall: 17920
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

I’ll try the new release and see how that works.  Thanks for the comment on 
decoding.  

>> How does Xojo open up a serial port that is already open?

An interesting question… 

No.  There is no splitter.  One connection through one RS232 port from a mac 
mini to an FTdx5000.  WSJT-X and my Xojo auxiliary app both run simultaneously 
on the mac. 

As far as the Xojo part goes, it’s very straightforward.  

There’s a serial object called theRadio.  When called to open, it opens, even 
if WSJT-X is running.  A timer is set, commands are sent to theRadio, replies 
are received and when the timer expires theRadio.close is called.  Once in a 
while there is a conflict but most of the time it works.  If theRadio.open 
generates an error, the app just waits an tries again.

So, for me the question is:  

Given that the serial port can be “seized” temporarily by another user, when 
does WSJT-X “care” and when does it not care?

73, Ed
W1KOK 
 


> On Jun 27, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd think that power supply spike might be better with the 2.1.0rc7 release 
> and the GFSK that it is doing since there's more of a ramp-up.
> 
> How does Xojo open up a serial port that is already open?  Are you using some 
> splitter?
> 
> I'd think ramping up power that slowly would risk the probability of your 
> signal being decoded.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 08:18:47 AM CDT, Ed Stokes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A few more notes about this subject…
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  The power spike problem can be “avoided” through keeping the xmtr power 
> low at the beginning of each cycle and then  gradually increasing it.  I have 
> bit of auxiliary code in Xojo which can do this, ramping power up during the 
> first 5 seconds of the cycle.  
> 
> Would anyone care to comment on how this variable power would affect the FT8 
> throughput?
> 
> 
> 
> 2.  I would like to know more about how WSJT-X uses the serial port. 
> 
> By experimenting I found that Xojo can “grab” the serial port, interact 
> briefly with the radio, then drop the serial line and WSJT-X (with rare 
> exceptions) never notices.  
> 
> For example, my auxiliary app can open the same serial port which WSJT-X is 
> using to control the radio, send some commands to the radio, stay connected 
> for 100 ms. or so, then close that connection.  WSJT-X seems none the wiser 
> as long as the interruption is brief.
> 
> When does WSJT-X access the serial port and when is it possible for another 
> app to use it without causing a conflict?
> 
> 73, Ed
> W1KOK 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Ed Stokes > <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Another extremely helpful comment.
>> 
>> As you may have noted in my previous post, I am not co-located with the 
>> equipment.
>> 
>> Is it possible to access this menu via the serial interface?
>> 
>> Otherwise, I will have to wait until next month when I am at home again and 
>> have physical access to the radio.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 73, Ed
>> W1KOK
>> 
>> 
>>> >From W8JI.com <http://w8ji.com/>, maybe 5000 has similar adjustments. If 
>>> >the IF Transmit Gain
>>> was too high the 1000 would exhibit huge power spikes on key down or
>>> pressing the mike PTT button.
>>> 
>>> Transmit Gain Menus
>>> 
>>> The FT-1000 MK V  has hidden transmit gain menus. They are accessed by
>>> pushing and holding FAST and LOCK while turning the POWER switch on. Both
>>> of my MK V's  and every MK V serviced here has had the TX IF gain set too
>>> high. This causes first character clicks on CW and spits and splatter on
>>> SSB.  Here is how to correct the IF gain to prevent ALC clipping on leading
>>> edges of CW and voice:
>>> 
>>> Press and hold FAST and LOCK before and during initial POWER on.
>>> 
>>> Press FAST and ENT at the same time. You are now in the MENU's and the
>>> display should say "0-1 GrPI-cH".
>>> 
>>> Turn the VRF/MEM CH counter-clockwise to 9-2. The display should say "t iF
>>> - GA in" This is the transmit IF gain menu.
>>> 
>>> Turn the SUB VFO knob clockwise one position to  " t iF - 018". This is the
>>> 1.8MHz transmit IF gain.
>>> 
>>> Press the ALC/COMP meter selector until the bar graph says "ALC".  Set RF
>>> PWR knob to full power.
>>> 
>>> With the radio on CW and a 50 ohm dummy load connected, close the key and
>>> adjust 

Re: [wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

A few more notes about this subject…



1.  The power spike problem can be “avoided” through keeping the xmtr power low 
at the beginning of each cycle and then  gradually increasing it.  I have bit 
of auxiliary code in Xojo which can do this, ramping power up during the first 
5 seconds of the cycle.  

Would anyone care to comment on how this variable power would affect the FT8 
throughput?



2.  I would like to know more about how WSJT-X uses the serial port. 

By experimenting I found that Xojo can “grab” the serial port, interact briefly 
with the radio, then drop the serial line and WSJT-X (with rare exceptions) 
never notices.  

For example, my auxiliary app can open the same serial port which WSJT-X is 
using to control the radio, send some commands to the radio, stay connected for 
100 ms. or so, then close that connection.  WSJT-X seems none the wiser as long 
as the interruption is brief.

When does WSJT-X access the serial port and when is it possible for another app 
to use it without causing a conflict?

73, Ed
W1KOK 

> On Apr 12, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Ed Stokes  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Another extremely helpful comment.
> 
> As you may have noted in my previous post, I am not co-located with the 
> equipment.
> 
> Is it possible to access this menu via the serial interface?
> 
> Otherwise, I will have to wait until next month when I am at home again and 
> have physical access to the radio.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73, Ed
> W1KOK 
> 
> 
>> >From W8JI.com <http://w8ji.com/>, maybe 5000 has similar adjustments. If 
>> >the IF Transmit Gain
>> was too high the 1000 would exhibit huge power spikes on key down or
>> pressing the mike PTT button.
>> 
>> Transmit Gain Menus
>> 
>> The FT-1000 MK V  has hidden transmit gain menus. They are accessed by
>> pushing and holding FAST and LOCK while turning the POWER switch on. Both
>> of my MK V's  and every MK V serviced here has had the TX IF gain set too
>> high. This causes first character clicks on CW and spits and splatter on
>> SSB.  Here is how to correct the IF gain to prevent ALC clipping on leading
>> edges of CW and voice:
>> 
>> Press and hold FAST and LOCK before and during initial POWER on.
>> 
>> Press FAST and ENT at the same time. You are now in the MENU's and the
>> display should say "0-1 GrPI-cH".
>> 
>> Turn the VRF/MEM CH counter-clockwise to 9-2. The display should say "t iF
>> - GA in" This is the transmit IF gain menu.
>> 
>> Turn the SUB VFO knob clockwise one position to  " t iF - 018". This is the
>> 1.8MHz transmit IF gain.
>> 
>> Press the ALC/COMP meter selector until the bar graph says "ALC".  Set RF
>> PWR knob to full power.
>> 
>> With the radio on CW and a 50 ohm dummy load connected, close the key and
>> adjust the MAIN VFO-A knob until the ALC display is about 75-85% of full
>> scale on the illuminated bar marked "ALC".
>> 
>> Press the next band button (3.5), make sure the radio is still  on CW, and
>> turn the SUB VFO-B knob clockwise one band to "t iF - 035".
>> 
>> Again adjust MAIN VFO-A until ALC is at 75-85% of full scale.
>> 
>> Repeat this process through all bands.
>> 
>> Most radios I have tested require a setting of 2 to 4 on TX IF gain, with 3
>> being the most common setting.
>> 
>> This change will reduce SSB bandwidth and distortion. It will also reduce
>> keyclicks and annoying thumps on the leading edge of each Morse character.
>> 
>>  Hope this helps;
>> 
>> Bill W2PKY
>> 
> 

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[wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

Hi Paul,

Thanks to you, too.  Your comment on160m confirms my suspicions.  

’m going to take a careful look at the ALC and see if I’ve got that right.

Does anyone know how to entirely disable ALC on a FT5K?  Or, is this just a 
dumb idea?

73, Ed
W1KOK   

I am surprised and pleased that this question has generated so much response.  

I’ve been puzzled by this all winter as I struggled with running 5 to 10 watts 
on Top Band.  

That said, it’s amazing what can be done, including numerous EU, AF, SA and 
VK/ZL contacts, with so little power on 160m!




> Start-of- transmission power spikes will almost certainly occur on any radio 
> which is using traditional alc to control output power. Spike severity is 
> directly linked to the amount of gain reduction the alc is giving. For 
> example,  a 100w rig with power output reduced to 5w using a power control 
> which operates via the alc system can be almost relied upon to produce 100w 
> spikes at start of transmission. No brainer.
> 
> The best way to avoid spikes in any rig using FT8 is to carefully adjust 
> audio drive level in the software until desired power output is obtained 
> without the rig applying any alc at all. In this way overall system gain is 
> only sufficient to produce desired power and no more - so spikes are 
> eliminated and you get a cleaner transmission.
> 
> That said, I say again that I can exactly  reproduce this problem at will on 
> 160m where my antenna system clearly puts large voltage onto the cable 
> between the pc and the rig. My interface uses industrial quality logic 
> isolators for civ and ptt together with audio isolation transformers and 
> dozens of ferrite rings on tuner - rig - pc cables.  RFI still gets through 
> and kills the usb connection on 160m.  To cure this I will rethink the 160m 
> antenna which I suspect is the easiest way.
> 
> Regards Paul G3NJV
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[Ed Stokes]

Hi Bill,

Another extremely helpful comment.

As you may have noted in my previous post, I am not co-located with the 
equipment.

Is it possible to access this menu via the serial interface?

Otherwise, I will have to wait until next month when I am at home again and 
have physical access to the radio.

Thanks.

73, Ed
W1KOK   


> >From W8JI.com, maybe 5000 has similar adjustments. If the IF Transmit Gain
> was too high the 1000 would exhibit huge power spikes on key down or
> pressing the mike PTT button.
> 
> Transmit Gain Menus
> 
> The FT-1000 MK V  has hidden transmit gain menus. They are accessed by
> pushing and holding FAST and LOCK while turning the POWER switch on. Both
> of my MK V's  and every MK V serviced here has had the TX IF gain set too
> high. This causes first character clicks on CW and spits and splatter on
> SSB.  Here is how to correct the IF gain to prevent ALC clipping on leading
> edges of CW and voice:
> 
> Press and hold FAST and LOCK before and during initial POWER on.
> 
> Press FAST and ENT at the same time. You are now in the MENU's and the
> display should say "0-1 GrPI-cH".
> 
> Turn the VRF/MEM CH counter-clockwise to 9-2. The display should say "t iF
> - GA in" This is the transmit IF gain menu.
> 
> Turn the SUB VFO knob clockwise one position to  " t iF - 018". This is the
> 1.8MHz transmit IF gain.
> 
> Press the ALC/COMP meter selector until the bar graph says "ALC".  Set RF
> PWR knob to full power.
> 
> With the radio on CW and a 50 ohm dummy load connected, close the key and
> adjust the MAIN VFO-A knob until the ALC display is about 75-85% of full
> scale on the illuminated bar marked "ALC".
> 
> Press the next band button (3.5), make sure the radio is still  on CW, and
> turn the SUB VFO-B knob clockwise one band to "t iF - 035".
> 
> Again adjust MAIN VFO-A until ALC is at 75-85% of full scale.
> 
> Repeat this process through all bands.
> 
> Most radios I have tested require a setting of 2 to 4 on TX IF gain, with 3
> being the most common setting.
> 
> This change will reduce SSB bandwidth and distortion. It will also reduce
> keyclicks and annoying thumps on the leading edge of each Morse character.
> 
>  Hope this helps;
> 
> Bill W2PKY
> 

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[Ed Stokes]

John,

Many, many thanks for this helpful idea.  I am not conversant with Hamlib, so 
this will take some study on my part.

73, Ed 
W1KOK


> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:36 AM, John Nelson via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> I use "Hamlib NET Rigctl” as rig on my station. (I use a Kenwood TS-870s.)
> And then run rigctld-wsjtx in the  background to do the rig control from my 
> Mac.  This way I can also control the rig’s RF Power Level from another 
> computer.   I think this is what you want to do with the routine you want to 
> write.
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[wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

Hi Frank,

Many thanks for your input.

For you and for others who may read this thread, here is some additional 
information.

I think there are several problems working together here.  As you said, I think 
the FTdx-5000 is doing something nasty.  Even when I limit the power setting of 
the rig I can see that it is peaking way above what I set for maximum power on 
the initial spike.

I also agree with you that RFI must be part of the problem because the effect 
is much more noticeable on the low bands and with the 160m dipole.  I can run 
full power on 17m with another dipole cut for that band which is even closer to 
the equipment without any problem.

I am in my winter home in California at the moment and the station in question 
is being run remotely in Vermont, so until I return home n a month no changes 
to the setup are possible.  I have about as much ferrite protection installed 
as can be done (learned from years of experience, HI).  I need to think about 
the opto-isolators…thanks for that idea.  The Mac Mini doesn’t seem capable of 
being grounded although I have given some thought over the years to trying to 
put it inside some kind of Faraday cage.

While it is extremely tedious, I can overcome the problem manually by watching 
until transmission starts at a low power setting (e.g. -42 dB) on wsjt and then 
advancing the power slider (to more like -15 dB).  Generally this works but 
sometimes the audio will still crash, even using this technique.  But, alas, as 
I said…extremely tedious!

It would be so nice if I could just grab the CAT line from wsjt.  I could write 
a little routine to wait a few seconds after the start of transmission and then 
increase the power with my own CAT connection, then drop it back down and give 
the CAT line back to wsjt.  But I suspect that is impossible.

73, Ed
W1KOK   


> Some rigs, even high-end rigs including the FTdx5000, exhibit a spike on
> initial transmit. I noticed it mostly with the amp. The power would surge
> briefly, and then return to the dial value.
> 
> I suspect the combination of the surge and a bit of RFI is causing the
> problem. I suggest an opto-isolator on both ends of your CAT cable. They
> are available for RS-232 and USB. That, plus some ferrites along the run
> should help with the problem. Also, if you're using a desktop, try running
> several ground straps to the case of the computer. Consumer-grade computers
> aren't very resistant to RFI, and there is no bonding between the pieces of
> sheet metal.
> 
> 73,
> Frank
> KF6E

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[wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

Hi Bill

Many thanks once again for your very generous reply to my query.

I am running an FTdx-5000 barefoot into a full size 160m dipole and using CAT 
control.  The speech processor is turned off.  Audio is being fed via the front 
panel mic jack from a Mac Mini.  The A3J TX passband is set at 400-2600 Hz.  
VOX is turned off.

After quite a bit of fiddling this morning with mic gain, bandwidth, power 
settings and other controls I am unable to keep it from crashing the audio at 
the start of each transmission, as described in my previous post.  

If I turn the power setting on wsjtx very low then wait until the transmission 
begins I can then increase the power without crashing the audio.  I can advance 
the power to the fully capability of the FT5k, i.e. 200w.

Is it possible to disable / enable the CAT connection to wsjtx via UTP?  

If I could do that, I could use some software grab the CAT line then command 
the rig to increase the power after wsjtx initiates the transmission cycle and 
then return CAT control to wsjtx at the end of the transmission cycle.

If you have any further ideas, I would love to hear them.

Many thanks 

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[wsjt-devel] Does the FT8 signal spike at the beginning of each transmission?

[Ed Stokes]

I’m curious about something I observe about the FT8 signal modulation.

It appears to produce a pronounced spike in the audio at the beginning of each 
15 second transmission.

When I operate on 160, 80 and 40 meters especially this spike will cause the 
program to stop producing audio.  My computer, a mac mini, is relatively close 
to the 160m dipole being used on these bands, about 50 feet.

If I throttle back to -41 dB or so I can make the transmission begin without 
stopping the audio, although the spike is still evident.  

If I then gradually increase the “Pwr” slider I can increase the power without 
causing the audio to crash.

If I leave the power increased the audio will crash immediately after the next 
transmission period begins.

Is this a known problem?

73, Ed
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[wsjt-devel] Specifying an RGB qColor for Highlight Callsign UDP function

[Ed Stokes]

Thanks to Maurizio R on the Xojo Forum and everyone here who has been so 
patient and helpful!


"Qt serialize colors as I posted in my previous message.
Alpha, Red, Green and Blue are 16 bits values not 8 bit values emitted as a 16 
bits values.
For example a full red color has the red part emitted as  not ”  — 
Maurizio R


Here’s the correct code, finally.

(assumes input fColor as color )
// foreground color
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (1) // RGB is Type 1
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (255) // Alpha channel = fully opaque
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (255)
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (fColor.Red) // Red
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (255)
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (fColor.Green) // 
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (0)
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (fColor.Blue) // 
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (0)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (0) // Pad


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Specifying an RGB qColor for Highlight Callsign UDP function

[Ed Stokes]

Bill, Mike, Derek or any other kind soul:

Still having trouble….

This causes the given call sign to disappear.  

I was expecting the call sign to be highlighted in blue on a red background.

Instead there is a blank space where the call sign should be.

What am I doing wrong?

73, Ed
W1KOK



Method: ChangeColors( callSign As String )

Dim mb As New MemoryBlock (0)
Dim outputStream As New BinaryStream (mb)
Dim utf8 As String

outputStream.LittleEndian = False

outputStream.WriteUInt32 (magicNumber)
outputStream.WriteUInt32 (2)
outputStream.WriteUInt32 (13) ' Clear

// Id (unique key)
utf8 = id.ConvertEncoding (Encodings.UTF8)
outputStream.WriteUInt32 (LenB (utf8))
outputStream.Write (utf8)

// callSign
utf8 = callSign.ConvertEncoding (Encodings.UTF8)
outputStream.WriteUInt32 (LenB (utf8))
outputStream.Write (utf8)

// background color
Dim c As Color =  ' Defaults to Alpha value 0
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (1) ' RGB spec
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Alpha)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Red)
outputStream.WriteUint16 (c.Green)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Blue)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (0) ' padding

// foreground color
c =  ' Defaults to Alpha value 0
outputStream.WriteUInt8 (1) ' RGB spec
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Alpha)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Red)
outputStream.WriteUint16 (c.Green)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (c.Blue)
outputStream.WriteUInt16 (0) ' padding

// Highlight last
outputStream.WriteBoolean (False)

// close the BinaryStream
outputStream.Close

Dim msg As new Datagram

msg.Address = WSJTX_IP
msg.Port = WSJTX_Port
msg.Data = mb
WSJTX_Socket.Write (msg)

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[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Many thanks Bill.

I’m confused because I’m not seeing this in my mail!

I would have missed it altogether but for doing a google search which found it 
on sourceforge.

What have I done?

Please copy your reply to my email address w1...@comcast.net 


73, Ed
W1KOK


On 04/04/2019 12:11, Bill Somerville wrote:
> ' The Xojo Color type stores 8-bit per channel colour values
> ' so we can start with one of them and extend to the 16-bit
> ' per channel Qt's deep colour QColor type uses
> '
> 
> ' Let's start with a light green Color variable
> Dim c As Color =  ' Defaults to Alpha value 0
> 
> ' Assuming os is a ByteStream instance set to BigEndian mode
> ' we write a serialized QColor version of light_green like this
> os.WriteUInt8 (1) ' RGB spec
> os.WriteUInt16 (c.Alpha)
> os.WriteUInt16 (c.Red)
> os.WriteUint16 (c.Green)
> os.WriteUInt16 (c.Blue)
> os.WriteUInt16 (0) ' padding
> 
> ' To stream an invalid QColor value (needed to clear colours)
> os.WriteUInt8 (0) ' Invalid spec
> For i As Integer = 1 To 4
>os.WriteUInt16 (0)
> Next
Hi again Ed,

corrected for the dumb off-by-one error.

' The Xojo Color type stores 8-bit per channel colour values
' so we can start with one of them and extend to the 16-bit
' per channel Qt's deep colour QColor type uses
'

' Let's start with a light green Color variable
Dim c As Color =  ' Defaults to Alpha value 0

' Assuming os is a ByteStream instance set to BigEndian mode
' we write a serialized QColor version of light_green like this
os.WriteUInt8 (1) ' RGB spec
os.WriteUInt16 (c.Alpha)
os.WriteUInt16 (c.Red)
os.WriteUint16 (c.Green)
os.WriteUInt16 (c.Blue)
os.WriteUInt16 (0) ' padding

' To stream an invalid QColor value (needed to clear colours)
os.WriteUInt8 (0) ' Invalid spec
For i As Integer = 1 To 5
   os.WriteUInt16 (0)
Next
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[wsjt-devel] Specifying an RGB qColor for Highlight Callsign UDP function

[Ed Stokes]

With reference to NETWORK_MESSAGE_HPP

Highlight Callsign In   13 quint32
 * Id (unique key)utf8
 * Callsign   utf8
 * Background Color   QColor
 * Foreground Color   QColor
 * Highlight last bool
 *

How do I construct a QColor for this command sequence?

In particular, my language is Xojo .

Thanks.

73, Ed
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Hi Bill,

Thanks to your help I am now sending and receiving UDP messages with WSJT-X!  
After getting the clear message working I have now added the cq reply message 
and am looking at the other available “in” messages.  I only write software for 
my own use, but doing so enhances my amateur radio hobby and gives me many 
hours of pleasure.

About the Xojo license, yes, I agree it’s too expensive.  After years of me 
(and probably others) nagging and badgering them, they finally offer a less 
expensive, limited use, license.  

I renewed mine a few months ago on sale for about $79.  (see below)

I have been using this software since early versions of RealBasic.  For a long 
time I would only upgrade every few years as the licenses don’t expire and my 
use doesn’t require the latest version.

I first started serious programming with UCSD Pascal back in the 70’s and used 
various (graduating to OOP along the way) Pascals for several decades.  I used 
to own/operate several radio broadcast stations and learned programming 
(primarily) by writing accounting, program logging and automation software for 
my stations.  I have always enjoyed the challenge of writing my own programs, 
but had to learn everything the hard way.  If they offered computer science 
programs when I was an undergrad I never heard about it!

Many, many thanks again for your patience and generosity in helping me find my 
way with this project!

BTW, LOVE WSJT-X!  Thanks to you and the rest of the team for your work!

73, Ed
W1KOK


> On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:00 AM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 01/04/2019 04:48, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> BINGO!
>> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> thanks for the update, glad your are up and running with two way UDP messages 
> with WSJT-X. Sorry it took so long, I think we both learned a bit about Xojo 
> on the way. A nicely balanced language with simplicity and depth but somewhat 
> frustrating with only binary saved projects unless an expensive license is 
> purchased, makes it annoyingly hard to share ideas and test implementations 
> even though the restriction is only meant to limit use for commercial 
> projects.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Many thanks for this additional guidance. I’m entertaining a guest this week 
and will try again soon. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
>> On 27/03/2019 03:12, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> // kGroupAddress = 127.0.0.1
>> // kOutPort = 61880
>> 
>> Dim d As new Datagram
>> Dim clearMessage As String
>> 
>> clearMessage = ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
>> clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
>> clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
>> clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB()  //  + ChrB()
>> 
>> d.Address = kGroupAddress
>> d.Port = kOutPort 
>> d.Data = clearMessage
>> 
>> UdPSocket1.Write( d )
>> 
>> This did not produce any effect.  So then, I thought perhaps I needed 
>> another UDP socket as #1 was connected to port 2237.
>> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> there's no problem with using the same socket for sending and receiving, 
> that's pretty standard with UDP. You have a few issues remaining. It looks 
> like you are hard coding the send address and port, don't do that as the port 
> will change and the address might too. You must use the sender address and 
> port as given to you from a previous datagram receive. The next issue is that 
> you do not have the Clear message fields correct, there is an 'id' field 
> after the message type field. It is a UTF-8 string field which can be empty 
> or null as currently WSJT-X doesn't do anything with it. Either put your 
> application name in, send an empty string 9an empty string is a count 
> sub-field containing the value zero unsigned 32-bit), or send a null string 
> (count as ).
> 
> You are probably not using the right tools for the job, Xojo has some types 
> that make network message parsing and building really easy. Here is how I 
> would read a message:
> 
> Const magic As UInt32 = 
> Dim dg As Datagram = WSJTXSocket.Read
> Dim is As New BinaryStream (dg.Data)
> If is.ReadUInt32 <> magic Then Return
> Dim schema As UInt32 = is.ReadUInt32
> Dim msg_type As Uint32 = is.ReadUInt32
> Dim length as UInt32 = is.ReadUInt32
> Dim id As String
> if length > 0 And length <  Then id = is.Read (length, 
> Encodings.UTF8)
> 
> Select Case msg_type
> Case 0 ' Heartbeat
> 
> Case 2 ' Decode
>   Dim is_new As Boolean = is.ReadBoolean
>   Dim ms As UInt32 = is.ReadUInt32 ' ms since midnight
>   Dim snr As UInt32 = is.ReadInt32
>   Dim dt As Double = is.ReadDouble
>   Dim df As UInt32 = is.readUInt32
>   Dim mode As String = is.Read (is.ReadUInt32, Encodings.UTF8)
>   Dim message As String = is.Read (is.ReadUInt32, Encodings.UTF8)
>   Dim low_confidence As Boolean = is.ReadBoolean
>   Dim off_air As Boolean = is.ReadBoolean
> 
> Case 6 ' Close
> End Select
> The same applies to building outgoing messages:
> 
> Dim mb As New MemoryBlock (0)
> Dim os As New BinaryStream (mb)
> os.LittleEndian = False
> os.WriteUInt32 (magic)
> os.WriteUInt32 (2)
> os.WriteUInt32 (3) ' Clear
> os.WriteUInt32 () ' Null id string
> os.WriteUInt8 (0) ' Clear Band Activity window
> Dim msg As Datagram
> msg.Address = dg.Address
> msg.Port = dg.Port
> msg.Data = mb
> WSJTXSocket.Write (msg)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

// kGroupAddress = 127.0.0.1
// kOutPort = 61880

Dim d As new Datagram
Dim clearMessage As String

clearMessage = ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB()  //  + ChrB()

d.Address = kGroupAddress
d.Port = kOutPort 
d.Data = clearMessage

UdPSocket1.Write( d )

This did not produce any effect.  So then, I thought perhaps I needed another 
UDP socket as #1 was connected to port 2237.

Dim d As new Datagram
Dim clearMessage As String

clearMessage = ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB() + ChrB()
clearMessage = clearMessage + ChrB()  //  + ChrB()

d.Address = kGroupAddress
d.Port = kOutPort 
d.Data = clearMessage

UdPSocket2.Write( d )

But still no result.

What am i missing here?

73, Ed
W1KOK 





> On Mar 26, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 26/03/2019 19:54, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> OK… I think I get it now.
>> 
>> I am using 127.0.0.1 and port 61880 shows up in my debugger when I look at 
>> the datagram.
>> 
>> Is this the IP and port to which I should send the message?
>> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> yes, that is correct. The Address and Port properties of the Datagram object 
> you get from UDPSocket.Read are the address and port of the sender and that's 
> what you should set in the reply Datagram (same two properties) to route it 
> back to the right WSJT-X instance.
> 
> Your first code sample was using the wrong UDPSocket.Write function, you need 
> the one that takes a Datagram type argument and you supply that with the 
> Address, Data, and Port properties set as above.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Bill,

Thank you so much for your super helpful response!

I’m especially thankful for the advice about the correct UDPSocket.Write 
function.  I can imagine wasting some time without that extra tip, so thanks.

73, Ed
W1KOK 



> On Mar 26, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 26/03/2019 19:54, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> OK… I think I get it now.
>> 
>> I am using 127.0.0.1 and port 61880 shows up in my debugger when I look at 
>> the datagram.
>> 
>> Is this the IP and port to which I should send the message?
>> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> yes, that is correct. The Address and Port properties of the Datagram object 
> you get from UDPSocket.Read are the address and port of the sender and that's 
> what you should set in the reply Datagram (same two properties) to route it 
> back to the right WSJT-X instance.
> 
> Your first code sample was using the wrong UDPSocket.Write function, you need 
> the one that takes a Datagram type argument and you supply that with the 
> Address, Data, and Port properties set as above.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

OK… I think I get it now.

I am using 127.0.0.1 and port 61880 shows up in my debugger when I look at the 
datagram.  

Is this the IP and port to which I should send the message?

=

Language = Xojo (https://www.xojo.com)

Source code:

Sub DataAvailable()
Dim d As DataGram
Dim mb1, mb As MemoryBlock

d = UDPSocket1.Read
mb = d.Data
if mb <> NIL Then
  mb1 = mb
  mb1.LittleEndian = False
end

Update( mb1 )
End Sub
==


Debugger value for DataGram



> On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 26/03/2019 18:09, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> I have formatted the clear message (type 3) and sent it to port 2237 but 
>> nothing happens.
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> that's not correct, you are effectively sending to yourself. You need to send 
> replies to the address and port of the original sender. When you receive a 
> datagram from a WSJT-X instance you can get the sender address and sender 
> port, that is the correct address and port to reply to.
> 
> What is your code to receive a datagram on the 2237 port you have bound to?
> 
> 73
> Bill
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> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Perhaps what I’m asking for is beyond what is reasonable, but I will ask anyway.

I write my own programs (using XOJO <https://www.xojo.com/>) to work in 
conjunction with WSJT-X.  

For a long time I have relied on reading the ALL.TXT file to determine the 
incoming data.  Every 15 seconds I read it and analyze it.  This works but it 
is slow and cumbersome. 

I was hoping that I could catch the stream of information via UDP.

I have written a quickie test program which captures the UDP stream on port 
2237.  

But most of what I am seeing is just a bunch of  “0”s.

Do these messages contain the information which shows up in the left hand 
window of the program?

If not, is that information available as UDP messages?

Where can I get guidance on capturing and decoding any such UDP messages?

Tell me to buzz off if you like.

Many thanks & 73,
Ed
W1KOK





> On Mar 10, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's only in the source code in NetworkMessage.hpp
> 
> 
> And, as for Laurie's question...it's a new feature.
> 
>  * Logged ADIFOut  12 quint32
>  * Id (unique key)utf8
>  * ADIF text  utf8
>  *
>  *  The  logged ADIF  message is  sent to  the server(s)  when the
>  *  WSJT-X user accepts the "Log  QSO" dialog by clicking the "OK"
>  *  button. The  "ADIF text" field  consists of a valid  ADIF file
>  *  such that  the WSJT-X  UDP header information  is encapsulated
>  *  into a valid ADIF header. E.g.:
>  *
>  *  <32-bit-count>  # binary 
> encoded fields
>  *  # the remainder is the contents of the ADIF text field
>  *  3.0.7
>  *  WSJT-X
>  *  
>  *  ADIF log data fields ...
>  *
>  *  Note that  receiving applications can treat  the whole message
>  *  as a valid ADIF file with one record without special parsing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019, 11:20:08 AM CDT, Ed Stokes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Would somebody kindly tell me where to find documentation on the UDP function?
> 
> Many thanks, Ed
> W1KOK
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net 
>> <mailto:vk3a...@vkdxer.net>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> I was capturing localhost UDP data today and observed that an ADIF record is 
> transmitted on the UDP Server port (2237) when a QSO is logged. Is this a new 
> undocumented feature or testing code that slipped into the release?
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0.1 QSO ADIF transmission on the UDP port. Defect or Design?

[Ed Stokes]

Would somebody kindly tell me where to find documentation on the UDP function?

Many thanks, Ed
W1KOK

> On Mar 2, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net> wrote:
> 
> I was capturing localhost UDP data today and observed that an ADIF record is 
> transmitted on the UDP Server port (2237) when a QSO is logged. Is this a new 
> undocumented feature or testing code that slipped into the release?
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Double click on DX station fails

[Ed Stokes]

Thanks, Joe, I’ll try that next time.

73 Ed



> On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> 
> On 7/2/2018 10:13 AM, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> running 1.9.1 on a Mac Mini
>> generally double clicking on DX station works as expected:  call sign 
>> changes and transmit is enabled.
>> sometimes, the software just keeps transmitting to the previous station.
>> It doesn’t  matter if you turn off enable or halt tx, the software just 
>> won’t change calls.
>> only known remedy: shut down WSJT-X and restart.
>> 73, Ed
>> W1KOK
> 
> There's no need to shut down WSJT-X and restart.  If you want to change 
> calls, first hit F4 to clear the DX Call and DX Grid boxes and message fields.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Double click on DX station fails

[Ed Stokes]

running 1.9.1 on a Mac Mini

generally double clicking on DX station works as expected:  call sign changes 
and transmit is enabled.

sometimes, the software just keeps transmitting to the previous station.

It doesn’t  matter if you turn off enable or halt tx, the software just won’t 
change calls.

only known remedy: shut down WSJT-X and restart.

73, Ed
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Working same station on more than one band

[Ed Stokes]

FWIT, my home-brew software (Mac) reads the ALL.TXT file every time it updates. 
 It also keeps my log in a separate list and a matrix of grids worked on 
various bands.

If the reported station shows a grid, that grid is checked against the matrix 
for grids already worked on the current band.  

If the station is in a grid not already worked on the current band and it is 
calling CQ it goes into one target list and if it is not calling CQ it goes 
into a separate target list.  This allows me to identify all stations in grids 
not worked on the current band, whether they are calling CQ or whether they are 
working another station.

To prevent ALL.TXT from choking my software, I truncate it periodically.  
Whenever the log file updates, the program updates the log list and the grid 
matrix.

Generally, I write software only for my own use (in Xojo), but if anyone is 
interested I would be happy to provide more information.

BTW, I am an active user of pskreporter <http://pskreporter.info/>, and it 
seems to show that my signals have satisfactory reach.  I am QRV on 160, 30, 20 
and 17 meters most days and 6 when it shows any sign of life.  My station is 
located in Vermont but I operate remotely from my winter QTH here in California.

Thanks to the development team for a terrific application…. WSJT-X RULES!

Best wishes to all.

73, Ed
W1KOK
  

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Ekman <kne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> AFAIK, it's only CQ's that are checked. If someone calls you on a band you 
> have already worked on it will look the same if it was unique.
> I've thought about this question as well since 1.6.x, calling it "per band 
> dupe/CQ check" or something like that in my todo list.
> At a first glance the problem is that the band data is not available to the 
> checking function and it needs to be passed through several functions to 
> reach it. It is possible though, as both the frequency and the band is in the 
> adif log.
> I'm on linux so AlarmeJT is an option for me atleast. But I'm already using 
> cqrlog to handle the logging so a quick manual check will tell me if it's a 
> new band, still would be nice to handle automatically.
> Even if I come up with a working solution I'm not sure if it will be added to 
> the dev branch, perhaps someone can hint on this ?
> 
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> The question was whether this capability might be built into the WSJT-X 
> software.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Working same station on more than one band

[Ed Stokes]

As I said in my original post, I have home-brew software that performs this, 
and other useful, tricks.  

The question was whether this capability might be built into the WSJT-X 
software.

Thanks, Ed 
W1KOK



> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Lorin Tremblay <lo...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> A forme of it  called JT-bridge is the version on mac
> 
> On Feb 8, 2018, at 10:50, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Is JTAlert available for Macintosh?
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
>>> <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> JTAlert has that capability as chosen by the user.  You can choose 
>>> band/mode or all.
>>> I imagine some DX want to work somebody they haven't before first...but 
>>> can't imagine they're ignoring you en masse if they see you calling.
>>> 
>>> More likely they can't see you.  Unless you're running a beam antenna 
>>> pointing at them you're likely to find a DX with not-so-good noise in their 
>>> area.
>>> 
>>> pskreporter.info <http://pskreporter.info/> can tell you a lot on how you 
>>> are propagating
>>> 
>>> de Mike W9MDB
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 9:25:31 AM CST, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to have the software recognize that although you have 
>>> already worked a given station you have NOT worked on the current band?
>>> 
>>> I have home-brew software that tells me whether the station is new on the 
>>> current band, but I suspect that sometimes the DX station will not respond 
>>> because they see that I have already worked them (on another band).
>>> 
>>> 73, Ed
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Working same station on more than one band

[Ed Stokes]

Is JTAlert available for Macintosh?

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> JTAlert has that capability as chosen by the user.  You can choose band/mode 
> or all.
> I imagine some DX want to work somebody they haven't before first...but can't 
> imagine they're ignoring you en masse if they see you calling.
> 
> More likely they can't see you.  Unless you're running a beam antenna 
> pointing at them you're likely to find a DX with not-so-good noise in their 
> area.
> 
> pskreporter.info can tell you a lot on how you are propagating
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018, 9:25:31 AM CST, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is it possible to have the software recognize that although you have already 
> worked a given station you have NOT worked on the current band?
> 
> I have home-brew software that tells me whether the station is new on the 
> current band, but I suspect that sometimes the DX station will not respond 
> because they see that I have already worked them (on another band).
> 
> 73, Ed
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[wsjt-devel] Working same station on more than one band

[Ed Stokes]

Is it possible to have the software recognize that although you have already 
worked a given station you have NOT worked on the current band?

I have home-brew software that tells me whether the station is new on the 
current band, but I suspect that sometimes the DX station will not respond 
because they see that I have already worked them (on another band).

73, Ed
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[wsjt-devel] FT8 -- FTdx1200 & Data Jack

[Ed Stokes]

I wonder if anyone can give me some advice on using FT8 with an FTdx1200 
connected through the data jack.

I’ve been trying to sort this out but am not getting anywhere.

If I plug a headset into the Mac’s audio out I hear the correct modulation 
sound coming from FT8.  

But when I route the audio out to the data in pin on the FTdx1200 all I hear on 
the transmitted signal is noise!

This is true whether I select USB or USB data as the mode on the radio.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

[Ed Stokes]

OK….

Now working.

After reseting the frequencies, I then did a configuration reset from the 
cloned config and the audio is working.

Thanks Bill & Bill

Love FT8, so many thanks to one and all for a great app and mode….

Happy 2018.

73, Ed
W1KOK



> On Jan 10, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Did you reset the frequencies?  Settings, freuency, right click, reset.  de 
> W4WNT 
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> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Ed Stokes
> <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Bill
> 
> FYI, I followed your instructions to the letter but 1.8.0 final would still 
> not work.  Even though the configuration panel indicated that the serial 
> connection was working, the frequency readout remained red and would not 
> interact.  No sound was received or showing on the waterfall. 
> 
> I have reverted to rc1, which still works.
> 
> 73, Ed
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com 
> > <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/01/2018 00:26, Ed Stokes wrote:
> >> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
> >> wsjtx.app from a  Mac?
> >> 
> >> I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > drag the WSJT-X application bundle icon from /Applications and drop it into 
> > the waste bin.
> > 
> > If you want to delete your settings and log files then the locations are 
> > listed in the User Guide but rather than do that simply use the 
> > "Menu->Configurations" drop down to clone your current settings and then 
> > use it again to reset the current configuration. That is equivalent to 
> > starting with a fresh set of preferences but without losing the old ones in 
> > case you want to refer to them.
> > 
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
> > 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

[Ed Stokes]

Reset the frequencies and the serial connection is OK.

But although the audio settings are as in rc1, there is NO audio response.  

This is the same problem as originally described.

Switch back to rc1 and audio is OK.



> On Jan 10, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Did you reset the frequencies?  Settings, freuency, right click, reset.  de 
> W4WNT 
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> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Ed Stokes
> <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Bill
> 
> FYI, I followed your instructions to the letter but 1.8.0 final would still 
> not work.  Even though the configuration panel indicated that the serial 
> connection was working, the frequency readout remained red and would not 
> interact.  No sound was received or showing on the waterfall. 
> 
> I have reverted to rc1, which still works.
> 
> 73, Ed
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com 
> > <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/01/2018 00:26, Ed Stokes wrote:
> >> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
> >> wsjtx.app from a  Mac?
> >> 
> >> I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > drag the WSJT-X application bundle icon from /Applications and drop it into 
> > the waste bin.
> > 
> > If you want to delete your settings and log files then the locations are 
> > listed in the User Guide but rather than do that simply use the 
> > "Menu->Configurations" drop down to clone your current settings and then 
> > use it again to reset the current configuration. That is equivalent to 
> > starting with a fresh set of preferences but without losing the old ones in 
> > case you want to refer to them.
> > 
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
> > 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

[Ed Stokes]

how would that relate to 

1) No serial connection
2) No audio connection

??



> On Jan 10, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Did you reset the frequencies?  Settings, freuency, right click, reset.  de 
> W4WNT 
> 
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> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Ed Stokes
> <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Bill
> 
> FYI, I followed your instructions to the letter but 1.8.0 final would still 
> not work.  Even though the configuration panel indicated that the serial 
> connection was working, the frequency readout remained red and would not 
> interact.  No sound was received or showing on the waterfall. 
> 
> I have reverted to rc1, which still works.
> 
> 73, Ed
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com 
> > <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/01/2018 00:26, Ed Stokes wrote:
> >> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
> >> wsjtx.app from a  Mac?
> >> 
> >> I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > drag the WSJT-X application bundle icon from /Applications and drop it into 
> > the waste bin.
> > 
> > If you want to delete your settings and log files then the locations are 
> > listed in the User Guide but rather than do that simply use the 
> > "Menu->Configurations" drop down to clone your current settings and then 
> > use it again to reset the current configuration. That is equivalent to 
> > starting with a fresh set of preferences but without losing the old ones in 
> > case you want to refer to them.
> > 
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

[Ed Stokes]

Many thanks Bill.

Sorry for not understanding the correct posting procedures.

And thanks for the requested information.

I have posted in the past about my difficulties getting the final version to 
run on my mac mini.  In the meantime I have set up another mac with the final 
version and it works correctly.  So, my aim now is to make a clean install on 
the first mac.  If you like, I will let you know about the outcome.

73, Ed
W1KOK


> On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/01/2018 00:26, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
>> wsjtx.app from a  Mac?
>> 
>> I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.
>> 
>> Thanks.
> 
> BTW, rather than digging up an old post to the list and replying to it with a 
> changed subject, please post a new topic for new questions.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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[wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

[Ed Stokes]

Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
wsjtx.app from a  Mac?

I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.

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[wsjt-devel] Correct Transmit Offset

[Ed Stokes]

On my FTdx 5000 I never took much notice of it but I think the VFO-B frequency 
for transmit was 0.5 kHz above the receive frequency (i.e. 14.074.5).  

I am now setting up another radio (an FTdx 1200) which does not have truly 
separate VFOs and I notice it wants to shift the transmit frequency DOWN to 
14.073.5.

Is this correct?

Your help would be appreciated.

Happy New Year from California.

73, Ed
W1KOK



> On Dec 30, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 30/12/2017 20:55, Pino Zollo wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> WSJT-X keeps writing files.wav in the directory save  also if the save
>> option is "none".
>> 
>> I have noticed that these file sometime disappearbut with the time
>> they sum up and occupy
>> 
>> a lot of space in the disk.
>> 
>> Is this normal ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Pino ZP4KFX
>> 
>> 
> Hi Pino,
> 
> WSJT-X always writes a .WAV file but deletes it around 3/4 through the next 
> T/R period if you have "Menu->Save->None" selected. Likewise for 
> "Menu->Save->Decoded" when there are no decodes. This implementation is 
> useful if something unusual happens or if the program crashes during decoding 
> since the .WAV file for the period of interest is or can be saved, see ALT+V 
> in the keyboard short-cuts ("Menu->Help->Keyboard shortcuts" or F3 for a 
> reminder).
> 
> Occasionally a .WAV file will be saved despite the settings, this most 
> usually is due to the application being closed before it deletes the last 
> saved .WAV file. The disk space usage is relatively minimal and can be 
> quickly recovered by pressing the "Menu->File->Delete all *.wav & *.c2 files 
> in SaveDir" button.
> 
> 73
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[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X Version 1.8.0 and Mac OS X

[Ed Stokes]

Is anyone successfully running 1.8.0 (final) on a Mac under OS X 10.11?

On my Mac Mini .rc1 runs fine.

in my experience, later revisions do not hear output from the Mac unless .rc1 
is run first and final is run as a duplicate from the terminal.

Can anyone verify that the final version actually works?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Still not able to run final version and get sound from my mac mini unless I run 
it as a second instance from the command line after starting rc1 from the mac 
desktop.

I wonder if anyone else using a mac can duplicate this problem.

73, W1KOK


> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I used 
> 
>  open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig 
> 
> to open the app.
> 
> Found ALL.TXT here: 
> 
>cat "/Users/w1kok/Library/Application Support/WSJT-X - testrig/ALL.TXT”
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there some reason why version (1.8.0 8193) would not be updating the 
>> ALL.TXT file in the Library/Application Support/WSJT-X folder?
>> 
>> It is not.  Has this been moved to another folder?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Closed both versions.  
>>> 
>>> Then restarted latest version (1.8.0 8193) from finder.  No audio.
>>> 
>>> Closed latest version .
>>> 
>>> Restarted it from the command line and  it works as expected!
>>> 
>>> Very curious, but at least it is working.
>>> 
>>> 73, 
>>> Ed
>>> W1KOK
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com 
>>>> <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 27/11/2017 16:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>>>> To run multiple versions you need to use the "-r" switch to create a new 
>>>>> rig setup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> e.g.
>>>>> 
>>>>> wsjtx -r testrig
>>>>> 
>>>>> de Mike W9MDB
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike and Ed,
>>>> 
>>>> that is not how you run a macOS bundle application from the command line, 
>>>> instead you use the following form:
>>>> 
>>>> open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

I used 

 open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig 

to open the app.

Found ALL.TXT here: 

   cat "/Users/w1kok/Library/Application Support/WSJT-X - testrig/ALL.TXT”



> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Is there some reason why version (1.8.0 8193) would not be updating the 
> ALL.TXT file in the Library/Application Support/WSJT-X folder?
> 
> It is not.  Has this been moved to another folder?
> 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:w1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Closed both versions.  
>> 
>> Then restarted latest version (1.8.0 8193) from finder.  No audio.
>> 
>> Closed latest version .
>> 
>> Restarted it from the command line and  it works as expected!
>> 
>> Very curious, but at least it is working.
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Ed
>> W1KOK
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com 
>>> <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 27/11/2017 16:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>>> To run multiple versions you need to use the "-r" switch to create a new 
>>>> rig setup.
>>>> 
>>>> e.g.
>>>> 
>>>> wsjtx -r testrig
>>>> 
>>>> de Mike W9MDB
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike and Ed,
>>> 
>>> that is not how you run a macOS bundle application from the command line, 
>>> instead you use the following form:
>>> 
>>> open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bill
>>> G4WJS.
>>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Is there some reason why version (1.8.0 8193) would not be updating the ALL.TXT 
file in the Library/Application Support/WSJT-X folder?

It is not.  Has this been moved to another folder?


> On Nov 29, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Ed Stokes <w1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Closed both versions.  
> 
> Then restarted latest version (1.8.0 8193) from finder.  No audio.
> 
> Closed latest version .
> 
> Restarted it from the command line and  it works as expected!
> 
> Very curious, but at least it is working.
> 
> 73, 
> Ed
> W1KOK
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 27/11/2017 16:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> To run multiple versions you need to use the "-r" switch to create a new 
>>> rig setup.
>>> 
>>> e.g.
>>> 
>>> wsjtx -r testrig
>>> 
>>> de Mike W9MDB
>> 
>> Hi Mike and Ed,
>> 
>> that is not how you run a macOS bundle application from the command line, 
>> instead you use the following form:
>> 
>> open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig
>> 
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Closed both versions.  

Then restarted latest version (1.8.0 8193) from finder.  No audio.

Closed latest version .

Restarted it from the command line and  it works as expected!

Very curious, but at least it is working.

73, 
Ed
W1KOK


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 27/11/2017 16:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> To run multiple versions you need to use the "-r" switch to create a new rig 
>> setup.
>> 
>> e.g.
>> 
>> wsjtx -r testrig
>> 
>> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> Hi Mike and Ed,
> 
> that is not how you run a macOS bundle application from the command line, 
> instead you use the following form:
> 
> open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Interesting….

Started an instance of rc1, then an instance of 1.8.0 from the command line.  
Audio came alive on 1.8.0.  After resetting various prefs, it seems to be 
working as expected.  Killed first instance and 1.8.0 still running fine.  

It will be interesting to see if I have to take this strange route to opening 
1.8.0 successfully next time.  Too interested in seeing what the latest version 
offers to try restarting it now.

Stay tuned.

Thanks to one and all.

Ed 
W1KOK


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 27/11/2017 16:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> To run multiple versions you need to use the "-r" switch to create a new rig 
>> setup.
>> 
>> e.g.
>> 
>> wsjtx -r testrig
>> 
>> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> Hi Mike and Ed,
> 
> that is not how you run a macOS bundle application from the command line, 
> instead you use the following form:
> 
> open /Applications/wsjtx.app --args -r testrig
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Thanks.


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:01 AM, John Nelson  wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
>> I know I read somewhere about increasing memory for multiple instances, but 
>> I can’t seem to find it again.
> 
> You will find this information in the Readme notes I provided for the WSJT-X 
> Mac OSX installation notes.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

Let me be clear.  Although there are several versions of wsjtx installed on the 
server, only a single instance is running at any given time.

The audio is not being shared among different instances running simultaneously.

When version rc1 is executed, the audio works.

Close it down, leave all the preferences and settings (both in wsjtx and the 
mac OS) untouched.

Then start either of the later versions (and correcting the CAT) and there is 
no audio reaching wsjtx.

But this does raise an interesting question.

Would starting version rc1, which does hear, and then starting a second 
instance of one of the other versions result in the second one hearing too?

As I am unclear about running 2 instances simultaneously, perhaps someone could 
point me to the documentation on running multiple instances.

When trying to run a second instance I get an alert asking if I want to “remove 
stale lock file”.  Answering yes brings up the same alert, as does retry.  
Answering no shuts the second instance down.

I know I read somewhere about increasing memory for multiple instances, but I 
can’t seem to find it again.

Any further ideas or help would be very welcome.

73, Ed W1KOK


> On Nov 27, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Daniel Ekman  wrote:
> 
> I'm no OSX guy, but if there's some similarity of the audio routing in Debian 
> you can get a situation where the mixer decides wich way the sound is routed. 
> And having separate binaries means having separate settings for these as 
> well. So check the OS settings.
> I use pavucontrol (pulse audio) and the sound from/to wsjt-x is based on alsa.
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[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X & Mac

[Ed Stokes]

I have 3 versions of WSJT-X which I run on a Mac Mini under OS X 10.11.6  :

v1.8.0  9/2/17
v1.8.0-rc1  7/10/17
v1.8.0-rc2  10/28/17


v1.8.0-rc1 runs perfectly.

Close it down, and execute either of the other versions and they:

#1  show frequency / band info in red even though “test CAT” returns a green / 
OK indication
#2  show no signals / activity on busy band

All preferences are the same, whichever version is executed.

Can anyone tell me what’s going on here and how to fix it?

Ed
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