Re: [wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-29 Thread Bill Barrett
Hi Joe-

I run multiple instances all the time. A problem I have observed is when
cancelling all instances, using the windows tray and right clicking on the
WSJT-X ICON in the tray and cancelling all instances there is usually
several zombie instances of WSJT-X left in the Task Manager. Not a big
issues, but thought I would mention it.
Thanks & 73;
Bill W2PKY

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:40 PM Joe Taylor  wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> > Pretty daft to kill processes that may be needed on an assumption.
>
> It's not daft, at all.  Probably 99% of WSJT-X users run only one
> instance.  In the rare but not unheard-of case where something caused a
> program crash, jt9.exe may be left running.  When WSJT-X is re-started,
> that zombie jt9.exe must be killed.
>
> Surely it's easy enough for you to start your instances in the proper
> order?  The ~1% of users running multiple instances have been doing that
> for years, with no issues.
>
> -- Joe, K1JT
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-29 Thread Tom Melvin
Hi All

Yes work around is to have all instances use the —rig-name=xxx option 


Joe - there are times I don’t want to run wsjtx on 6m (the instance with no 
—rig-name option) - I could be using jt6, FSK411 for MS (a lot of UK contests 
still don’t support FT8/MSK) which wsjtx does not support - so I just start HF 
to check conditions —rig-name=HF instance - work away. Finish with MSHV and 
switch back to wsjtx to use MSK/FT8 - that would kill the HF screen.

I have been running all night here with —rig-name=HF and —rig-name=VHF and all 
is 100% no mater what order I use.

I’m pretty sure the software could check for running wsjtx processes (jtalert 
does it well) and if there are none, other that the one just started, then kill 
the jt9  exe - if there are existing wsjtx processes don’t kill - that would 
deal with the rogue process and handle the —rig-name option.

73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)





On 29 Jan 2019, at 21:40, Joe Taylor  wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> 
>> Pretty daft to kill processes that may be needed on an assumption.
> 
> It's not daft, at all.  Probably 99% of WSJT-X users run only one instance.  
> In the rare but not unheard-of case where something caused a program crash, 
> jt9.exe may be left running.  When WSJT-X is re-started, that zombie jt9.exe 
> must be killed.
> 
> Surely it's easy enough for you to start your instances in the proper order?  
> The ~1% of users running multiple instances have been doing that for years, 
> with no issues.
> 
>   -- Joe, K1JT
> 



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-29 Thread Joe Taylor

Hi Tom,


Pretty daft to kill processes that may be needed on an assumption.


It's not daft, at all.  Probably 99% of WSJT-X users run only one 
instance.  In the rare but not unheard-of case where something caused a 
program crash, jt9.exe may be left running.  When WSJT-X is re-started, 
that zombie jt9.exe must be killed.


Surely it's easy enough for you to start your instances in the proper 
order?  The ~1% of users running multiple instances have been doing that 
for years, with no issues.


-- Joe, K1JT


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-29 Thread Tom Melvin
Thanks Mike

So that means you MUST start the single instance first no matter what.  That 
does agree with what I am seeing - nothing in the docs to say there is a ‘start 
up’ order.

As a work around I will try to set all my wsjtx instances to use a —rig-name 
option and see if that will help keep things running.

Pretty daft to kill processes that may be needed on an assumption.

--

73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)





On 29 Jan 2019, at 17:54, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:

> It is coded that way.  When you start with --rig-name it knows to expect 
> multiple instances.  Without --rig-name it assumes you're running only one 
> and kills the jt9 process...but doesn't kill the wsjtx process...which seems 
> wrong.
> 
> I suppose it's possible to make that check a bit better to allow either 
> sequence
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, January 28, 2019, 4:36:51 PM CST, Tom Melvin  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Good day all
> 
> Posted over in general wsjtx list not much joy - Been playing and need some 
> advice
> 
> One PC, multiple Audio connections to two separate transceivers - wsjtx v2.0.0
> 
> Start one  wsjtx —rig-name=test   wsjt starts up and runs fine
> 
> Start another instance but no —rig-name - wsjtx starts up and runs fine but 
> the original instance has stopped decoding, icon on all the time.
> 
> This only happens if you start the —rig-name=xx instance BEFORE the plain 
> one. If you start the main instance first, then the —rig-name=xx and don’t 
> restart or change config both will work 100% ok. As soon as you restart or 
> change config on the ‘main’ instance the —rig-name instance will lock up.
> 
> Looking at task manager the jt9 process no longer exists on the 1st one.
> 
> Have tried this with main ham setup on windows 7, as a test loaded wsjtx on a 
> stand alone Windows 10 laptop and same problem.
> 
> Compiled from source, on windows 10 laptop and same problem.
> 
> I can reproduce this 100% on two different PC’s with different versions of 
> windows.
> 
> Is the a way I can see in a little more details what was happening that would 
> cause the jt9 process to die?
> 
> 
> 73’s
> 
> Tom
> GM8MJV (IO85)
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-29 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
It is coded that way.  When you start with --rig-name it knows to expect 
multiple instances.  Without --rig-name it assumes you're running only one and 
kills the jt9 process...but doesn't kill the wsjtx process...which seems wrong.
I suppose it's possible to make that check a bit better to allow either 
sequence
de Mike W9MDB

 

On Monday, January 28, 2019, 4:36:51 PM CST, Tom Melvin  
wrote:  
 
 
Good day all
Posted over in general wsjtx list not much joy - Been playing and need some 
advice
One PC, multiple Audio connections to two separate transceivers - wsjtx v2.0.0
Start one      wsjtx —rig-name=test   wsjt starts up and runs fine
Start another instance but no —rig-name - wsjtx starts up and runs fine but the 
original instance has stopped decoding, icon on all the time.
This only happens if you start the —rig-name=xx instance BEFORE the plain one. 
If you start the main instance first, then the —rig-name=xx and don’t restart 
or change config both will work 100% ok. As soon as you restart or change 
config on the ‘main’ instance the —rig-name instance will lock up.
Looking at task manager the jt9 process no longer exists on the 1st one.
Have tried this with main ham setup on windows 7, as a test loaded wsjtx on a 
stand alone Windows 10 laptop and same problem.
Compiled from source, on windows 10 laptop and same problem.
I can reproduce this 100% on two different PC’s with different versions of 
windows.
Is the a way I can see in a little more details what was happening that would 
cause the jt9 process to die?

73’s
TomGM8MJV (IO85)



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[wsjt-devel] Decode lite up - no decode

2019-01-28 Thread Tom Melvin
Good day allPosted over in general wsjtx list not much joy - Been playing and need some adviceOne PC, multiple Audio connections to two separate transceivers - wsjtx v2.0.0Start one      wsjtx —rig-name=test   wsjt starts up and runs fineStart another instance but no —rig-name - wsjtx starts up and runs fine but the original instance has stopped decoding, icon on all the time.This only happens if you start the —rig-name=xx instance BEFORE the plain one. If you start the main instance first, then the —rig-name=xx and don’t restart or change config both will work 100% ok. As soon as you restart or change config on the ‘main’ instance the —rig-name instance will lock up.Looking at task manager the jt9 process no longer exists on the 1st one.Have tried this with main ham setup on windows 7, as a test loaded wsjtx on a stand alone Windows 10 laptop and same problem.Compiled from source, on windows 10 laptop and same problem.I can reproduce this 100% on two different PC’s with different versions of windows.Is the a way I can see in a little more details what was happening that would cause the jt9 process to die?73’sTomGM8MJV (IO85)

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