Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices
Hi! Now back to original meaning of my message that was not to comment about contest rules at fist place, but comment wsjt-x program behavior. -If I call CQ with settings/advanced/"ARRL rtty roundup enabled" -someone answers to me with settings/advanced/"EU VHF" enabled -my wsjtx will inform me with line at "RX frequency" window that EU VHF mode is enabled (without my actions !) *How can I prevent this?* -when I get next answer from station with settings/advanced/"ARRL rtty roundup enabled" my wsjt-x gives a splash notice that rtty roundup should be enabled, but does NOT do that without my action (via settings/advanced/"ARRL rtty roundup enabled") Switch to "EU VHF" as automated action can cause snowball effect if I answer next station (not the one who used "EU VHF" at first place) leaving "EU VHF" enabled by accident. So his wsjt-x will turn to "EU VHF" and next one he answers get the same reaction... and so on. Either always allow auto switch to BOTH directions, or do not allow it at all. I prefer the last one. -- Saku OH1KH ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices
What I can’t workout is why people are using EU VHF in the 1st place. It is not specifically in the rules page as Saku pointed out, but top of the contest page has a link to FT8 settings, that clearly shows should be RTTY, the links to MSHV has a big page on contest setup, again says rtty - wsjt points to manual at contest settings. So why are so many people using EU VHF? - Hopefully as you all point out if it is specified on the same page as the rules it _may_ help. Tom -- 73’s Tom GM8MJV (IO85) On 14 Apr 2019, at 09:45, Saku wrote: > Neil Zampella kirjoitti 14.4.2019 klo 6.49: >> That is something they will need to change if they decide to do another >> one, declare what contest mode will be used. >> >> Neil, KN3ILZ > > > Yes! > > I agree! > > > But it is bad thing that wsjt-x switches from RTTY RU to EU VHF automatic if > it detects that kind of answer. > Backwards it does not do it. It just reminds that mode should be switched to > RTTY RU. But that needs user action via settings/advanced. > > > And EU VHF is, I think, a little tested mode. It is so unstabile. > I did some UDP message testings a while ago with ft8sim and small mistakes > made wsjt-x crash with EU VHF. Mistakes means pressing wrong button at wrong > time. Sometimes crash kills also whole xwindow (LXDE) at same go. > All other modes allow all kind of operations, but EU VHF is very sensible. > Everything must go in right order. > > > -- > Saku > OH1KH > > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices
Neil Zampella kirjoitti 14.4.2019 klo 6.49: That is something they will need to change if they decide to do another one, declare what contest mode will be used. Neil, KN3ILZ Yes! I agree! But it is bad thing that wsjt-x switches from RTTY RU to EU VHF automatic if it detects that kind of answer. Backwards it does not do it. It just reminds that mode should be switched to RTTY RU. But that needs user action via settings/advanced. And EU VHF is, I think, a little tested mode. It is so unstabile. I did some UDP message testings a while ago with ft8sim and small mistakes made wsjt-x crash with EU VHF. Mistakes means pressing wrong button at wrong time. Sometimes crash kills also whole xwindow (LXDE) at same go. All other modes allow all kind of operations, but EU VHF is very sensible. Everything must go in right order. -- Saku OH1KH ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices
Saku-san, there really wasn't any contest mode specified, just the exchange of US State, or DX and Serial number. The one mode that would work is the ARRL RTTY Roundup, as it does everything that was required in the rules. That is something they will need to change if they decide to do another one, declare what contest mode will be used. Neil, KN3ILZ On 4/13/2019 10:38 AM, Saku wrote: HI! A bit odd feature noticed during ft8 dx contest. It was not clearly stated what contest mode should be used. It must be in rules, not in separate web page. As settings should be RTTY RU then if someone answers with EU VHF program switches by itself to EU VHF. Then qso is completed as EU VHF. Then if next station tries to give new report with RTTY RU program suggest RTTY RU, but does not change it. You have to go settings/advanced to change it. And the qso is lost. Either auto change of contest mode to both directions, or no change at all in any case. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] FT8 DX Contest notices
HI! A bit odd feature noticed during ft8 dx contest. It was not clearly stated what contest mode should be used. It must be in rules, not in separate web page. As settings should be RTTY RU then if someone answers with EU VHF program switches by itself to EU VHF. Then qso is completed as EU VHF. Then if next station tries to give new report with RTTY RU program suggest RTTY RU, but does not change it. You have to go settings/advanced to change it. And the qso is lost. Either auto change of contest mode to both directions, or no change at all in any case. -- Saku OH1KH ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel