Re: [wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-06 Thread Anders LA9NKA

Hello.

Using v2.0.0-rc2 on Linux/Ubuntu 18.04, with an Icom IC-7100 using the 
USB-audio.


I've also been seeing this issue sporadically over the last week or so, 
but I'm having a hard time trying to reproduce it.


Seems to happen more often if I have been cq'ing, and get a reply, and 
dbl-click the reply just as the radio starts tx with my next cq (and tx 
msg changes from cq to reply on same period).


The behaviour then is as described by op earlier, tx starts at low pwr, 
and gradually rises to desired level over the first 5 seconds or so. 
When this happens, the next period(s) usually behaves normally without 
any issues.


Have also noticed sporadically small fluctuations in tx-power when 
pwr-slider is around -25 db (the radio's usb-mod-level setting is at 
35%). Giving the wsjt-x pwr-slider a bump up or down then seem to make 
the issue disappear.



*73... Anders, LA9NKA*


Den 05. okt. 2018 06:35, skrev Black Michael:


I was able to reproduce this multiple times even after a reboot so I 
went back to 1.9.1 for the last couple days.


Then today I get the fast ring update for Windows 10 which hosed my VB 
Cable setup (and all my USB devices which updates seems to like to do) 
-- so reinstalled VB and now I can't reproduce it.


Can't imagine how two instances, both going through the same audio 
device, could produce such different results. And I had another ops 
who was was having the exact same problem but without VB.  So maybe 
their is some WIndows thing going on.


Alas...all is well now so false alarm until it happens again.

Thanks for response Steve.

MIke





On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 4:40:35 PM CDT, Steven Franke via 
wsjt-devel  wrote:



Mike,

On Oct 3, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
> wrote:


Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down 
or more on RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually 
rises over about 3 seconds and that's what started my investigation.  
If above 12dB no problem...power is spot on when PTT is 
asserted...but this is just a symptom of what appears to be a bigger 
problem.


So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.
The image included here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions 
going through the same VB audio cable recorded with Audacity so the 
audio paths are identical.


First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by 
RC2's tune button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr 
slider.

I would hope this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.
And RC1 behaves badly too.


Just for the record, I have not been able to reproduce this issue here 
on OS X or Linux. I’m using latest development code - but nothing 
related to generation of the audio output has been changed since RC2.


Steve k9an



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-04 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel

I was able to reproduce this multiple times even after a reboot so I went back 
to 1.9.1 for the last couple days.

Then today I get the fast ring update for Windows 10 which hosed my VB Cable 
setup (and all my USB devices which updates seems to like to do) -- so 
reinstalled VB and now I can't reproduce it.
Can't imagine how two instances, both going through the same audio device, 
could produce such different results.  And I had another ops who was was having 
the exact same problem but without VB.  So maybe their is some WIndows thing 
going on.

Alas...all is well now so false alarm until it happens again.
Thanks for response Steve.

MIke



 

On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 4:40:35 PM CDT, Steven Franke via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:  
 
 Mike,

On Oct 3, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:
Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down or more on 
RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually rises over about 3 
seconds and that's what started my investigation.  If above 12dB no 
problem...power is spot on when PTT is asserted...but this is just a symptom of 
what appears to be a bigger problem.

So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.The image included 
here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions going through the same VB 
audio cable recorded with Audacity so the audio paths are identical.

First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by RC2's tune 
button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr slider.I would hope 
this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.And RC1 behaves badly too.

Just for the record, I have not been able to reproduce this issue here on OS X 
or Linux. I’m using latest development code - but nothing related to generation 
of the audio output has been changed since RC2.
Steve k9an


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-04 Thread Steven Franke via wsjt-devel
Mike,

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down or more 
> on RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually rises over about 3 
> seconds and that's what started my investigation.  If above 12dB no 
> problem...power is spot on when PTT is asserted...but this is just a symptom 
> of what appears to be a bigger problem.
> 
> So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.
> The image included here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions going 
> through the same VB audio cable recorded with Audacity so the audio paths are 
> identical.
> 
> First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by RC2's tune 
> button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr slider.
> I would hope this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.
> And RC1 behaves badly too.

Just for the record, I have not been able to reproduce this issue here on OS X 
or Linux. I’m using latest development code - but nothing related to generation 
of the audio output has been changed since RC2.

Steve k9an

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
This is the area that is related to this problem.The changes below do NOT fix 
it completely but it behaves better.Just wanted to point out what I've found at 
this time if helps identify what's going on.


--- a/Modulator.cpp
+++ "b/\\JTSDK\\tmp\\wsjtx-git-sf\\Modulator.cpp"
@@ -198,7 +198,8 @@ qint64 Modulator::readData (char * data, qint64 maxSize)

   while (samples != end) {
 j = (m_ic - ic0)/m_nspd + 1; // symbol of this sample
-    bool level {bool (icw[j])};
+    bool level = 1;
+    if (icw[0]>0) level = icw[j];
 m_phi += m_dphi;
 if (m_phi > m_twoPi) m_phi -= m_twoPi;
 qint16 sample=0;
@@ -226,7 +227,7 @@ qint64 Modulator::readData (char * data, qint64 maxSize)
 }

 // adjust ramp
-    if ((m_ramp != 0 && m_ramp != std::numeric_limits::min ()) 
|| level != m_cwLevel) {
+    if ((m_ramp != 0 && m_ramp != std::numeric_limits::min ()) 
|| (icw[0]>0 && level != m_cwLevel)) {
   // either ramp has terminated at max/min or direction has changed
   m_ramp += RAMP_INCREMENT; // ramp
 }

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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 9:38:27 AM CDT, WB5JJJ  
wrote:  
 
 Michael:  
I have noticed the same thing, especially when I change from 40 to 20 or 
reverse.  I always do a manual tune before an actual transmit and when WSJTx 
sends the tones, I get the same 3-4 second build up to full power.  This only 
happens on the initial key up after changing bands.  After that it's full power 
at PTT.
Thought it just might be a characteristic of the IC-7610, so I didn't give it 
too much thought.  
George
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:33 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:

Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down or more on 
RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually rises over about 3 
seconds and that's what started my investigation.  If above 12dB no 
problem...power is spot on when PTT is asserted...but this is just a symptom of 
what appears to be a bigger problem.

So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.The image included 
here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions going through the same VB 
audio cable recorded with Audacity so the audio paths are identical.

First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by RC2's tune 
button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr slider.I would hope 
this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.And RC1 behaves badly too.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-03 Thread WB5JJJ
Michael:

I have noticed the same thing, especially when I change from 40 to 20 or
reverse.  I always do a manual tune before an actual transmit and when
WSJTx sends the tones, I get the same 3-4 second build up to full power.
This only happens on the initial key up after changing bands.  After that
it's full power at PTT.

Thought it just might be a characteristic of the IC-7610, so I didn't give
it too much thought.

George

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:33 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down or
> more on RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually rises over
> about 3 seconds and that's what started my investigation.  If above 12dB no
> problem...power is spot on when PTT is asserted...but this is just a
> symptom of what appears to be a bigger problem.
>
> So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.
> The image included here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions going
> through the same VB audio cable recorded with Audacity so the audio paths
> are identical.
>
> First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by RC2's
> tune button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr slider.
> I would hope this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.
> And RC1 behaves badly too.
>
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[wsjt-devel] Transmit signal problems

2018-10-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Having a problem with transmit signals behaving badly when 12dB down or more on 
RC2.  The behavior I see is my output power gradually rises over about 3 
seconds and that's what started my investigation.  If above 12dB no 
problem...power is spot on when PTT is asserted...but this is just a symptom of 
what appears to be a bigger problem.

So I compared the signal being generated by RC2 with 1.9.1.The image included 
here is the tune signal from both WSJT-X versions going through the same VB 
audio cable recorded with Audacity so the audio paths are identical.

First signal is 1.9.1 tune button (looks fine) followed quickly by RC2's tune 
button (yikes!!).  Both systems at full scale on the pwr slider.I would hope 
this can be duplicated on somebody else's system.And RC1 behaves badly too.
de Mike W9MDB






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