Re: XQuartz window settings lost on OS update

[Philip Dennison via X11-users]

On 20200205 13:17, pagani laurent wrote:
When i restart my Mac, XQuartz comes with a black window and pale yellow 
(Wheat) foreground. But if I need to restart XQuartz directly, it 
becomes white and black foreground. Since I usually open a number of 
widows and I disabled the shortcuts with CMD, I have several aliases to 
open them where I change the fontsize like the following one:


alias xterm10
xterm -sb -fg Wheat -bg black -cr green -ms red -fa Monaco -fs 10&

My first window, whether white or black will therefore open other 
windows in black background by typing xterm10 or xterm7, etc.


- Laurent




Hi Laurent,

Thanks for the suggestions. My OS update did not help me with running 
the new Apps I wanted, so I solved the issue by reverting to El Capitan.


best wishes,

Phil.


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Re: xterm operation not permitted

[David Ledger via X11-users]

On 2020-02-05 16:10, Ben Kilminster via X11-users wrote:

Hello,

I'm on a Mac  (Mac Catalina 10.15.2, XQuartz 2.7.11).

The problem is using the xterm provided by XQuartz, I no longer have 
permission to look in my directories :

Wed 16:59 [bjk] ls ~/Documents/
ls: : Operation not permitted

I found a solution recommended online, which is :
1) System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> "Full Disk 
Access"

2) Unlock then add "Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app"
3) Restart everything.

However, I still get the same error.

The other "Terminal" program still works, so this is not fatal.
But right now XQuartz is not usable for me.  Suggestions ?


It look like you are either not *who* you think you are or not *where* 
you think you are.


In both of a fresh Terminal and a fresh xterm, do:

$ pwd
$ id
$ echo $0
$ echo $SHELL
$ echo ~
$ echo $HOME

They should match between the Terminal and xterm environments.

Whichever terminal (lower 't') you use it's the shell that does the work 
not the terminal.


David

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Re: XQuartz window settings lost on OS update

[pagani laurent via X11-users]

When i restart my Mac, XQuartz comes with a black window and pale yellow 
(Wheat) foreground. But if I need to restart XQuartz directly, it becomes white 
and black foreground. Since I usually open a number of widows and I disabled 
the shortcuts with CMD, I have several aliases to open them where I change the 
fontsize like the following one:

alias xterm10
xterm -sb -fg Wheat -bg black -cr green -ms red -fa Monaco -fs 10&

My first window, whether white or black will therefore open other windows in 
black background by typing xterm10 or xterm7, etc.

- Laurent

> Le 5 févr. 2020 à 21:42, Don MacQueen via X11-users 
>  a écrit :
> 
> And if worse comes to worst, and you start your xterms using the command key 
> shortcut provided by XQuartz, you could edit that command to use command line 
> arguments to set the geometry and background color. You’d have to use ‘man 
> xterm’ to find the arguments’ syntax. Or it shouldn’t be hard to find 
> examples online.   (example:  xterm -sl 1000 )
> 
> -Don
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Philip Dennison via X11-users 
>> mailto:x11-users@lists.apple.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been using XQuartz for many years on several different Macs. In the 
>> past my customized window settings have been retained during OS updates. By 
>> this I mean my choice of initial size, text and background colors.
>> 
>> I have just updated my 2010 MacPro from El Camino to High Sierra, and my 
>> settings have been lost. I get the default small black-on-white window.
>> 
>> It is so long since I set up those choices I can't remember how to do it...
>> 
>> They seem to have been saved in ~/.Xresources and are still present, but no 
>> longer being used:
>> 
>> xterm.vt100.saveLines: 1000
>> ! Colors
>> !.xterm.vt100.background: firebrick4
>> .xterm.vt100.background: rgb:6f/0/0
>> .xterm.vt100.foreground: lightyellow1
>> ! Geometry
>> .xterm.vt100.geometry: 160x48+512+200
>> 
>> I tried copying these settings to ~/.profile and /etc/profile and ~/.bashrc 
>> with no success.
>> 
>> Can anyone guide me on how to fix this?
>> 
>> Thanks very much,
>> 
>> Phil.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr Phil Dennison
>> NMR Facility Director   (949)824-6010 (office)
>> Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
>> University of California(949)824-8571 (fax)
>> Irvine, CA 92697-2025   denni...@uci.edu 
>> USA
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Re: xterm operation not permitted

[John Francini via X11-users]

Another thing to try. 

Follow the steps you did earlier for adding XQuartz but instead add the XTerm 
app. The difference here is that you are adding the app that actually owns the 
child processes - which isn't XQuartz, but is XTerm.

Just my $0.02.

John



> On 5 Feb 2020, at 14:36, Mike Thornburg (mthorn) via X11-users 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Pascal Bourguignon via X11-users 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:10, Ben Kilminster via X11-users 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, 
>>> 
>>> I'm on a Mac  (Mac Catalina 10.15.2, XQuartz 2.7.11).
>>> 
>>> The problem is using the xterm provided by XQuartz, I no longer have 
>>> permission to look in my directories :
>>> Wed 16:59 [bjk] ls ~/Documents/
>>> ls: : Operation not permitted
>>> 
>>> I found a solution recommended online, which is :
>>> 1) System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> "Full Disk 
>>> Access" 
>>> 2) Unlock then add "Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app"
>>> 3) Restart everything.
>>> 
>>> However, I still get the same error.  
>>> 
>>> The other "Terminal" program still works, so this is not fatal.  
>>> But right now XQuartz is not usable for me.  Suggestions ?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> p.s. Apologies if I am posting to the wrong forum or should have found the 
>>> answer to this somewhere online. 
>> 
>> 
>> 1- consider switching to Linux.
>> 
>> 2- Disable System Integrity Protection.
>> 
>> $ csrutil status
>> System Integrity Protection status: disabled.
>> 
>> But this will probably not work anymore in future versions of macOS…  
>> therefore consider switching to Linux.  Or FreeBSD or OpenBSD if you really 
>> want.
>> 
>> Note: you will need to reboot in Recovery Mode to do that.
>> 
> 
> I don't know if this workaround works on Catalina because I am still running 
> Mohave, but 
> I have found that if I enable my account for remote login, start an xterm, 
> and 
> 
>   ssh my_user_id@localhost
> 
> from within the xterm I can access the locations (eg, ~/Library/Safari) that 
> are protected by System Integrity 
> Protection on Mohave without having to disable System Integrity Protection.  
> I don't know if it makes any 
> difference here, but I have also given the Terminal.app Full Disk Access in 
> the Security & Privacy preferences.
> 
> If you want to start other xclients from the remote login session you will 
> need to do something to set up 
> the DISPLAY environment variable properly in your new shell, but as far as I 
> know once you do that everything 
> works.
> 
> Mike
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Re: XQuartz window settings lost on OS update

[Don MacQueen via X11-users]

And if worse comes to worst, and you start your xterms using the command key 
shortcut provided by XQuartz, you could edit that command to use command line 
arguments to set the geometry and background color. You’d have to use ‘man 
xterm’ to find the arguments’ syntax. Or it shouldn’t be hard to find examples 
online.   (example:  xterm -sl 1000 )

-Don

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Philip Dennison via X11-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using XQuartz for many years on several different Macs. In the past 
> my customized window settings have been retained during OS updates. By this I 
> mean my choice of initial size, text and background colors.
> 
> I have just updated my 2010 MacPro from El Camino to High Sierra, and my 
> settings have been lost. I get the default small black-on-white window.
> 
> It is so long since I set up those choices I can't remember how to do it...
> 
> They seem to have been saved in ~/.Xresources and are still present, but no 
> longer being used:
> 
> xterm.vt100.saveLines: 1000
> ! Colors
> !.xterm.vt100.background: firebrick4
> .xterm.vt100.background: rgb:6f/0/0
> .xterm.vt100.foreground: lightyellow1
> ! Geometry
> .xterm.vt100.geometry: 160x48+512+200
> 
> I tried copying these settings to ~/.profile and /etc/profile and ~/.bashrc 
> with no success.
> 
> Can anyone guide me on how to fix this?
> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> Phil.
> 
> -- 
> Dr Phil Dennison
> NMR Facility Director   (949)824-6010 (office)
> Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
> University of California(949)824-8571 (fax)
> Irvine, CA 92697-2025   denni...@uci.edu
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Re: XQuartz window settings lost on OS update

[Don MacQueen via X11-users]

You could try naming it

  ~/.Xdefaults

(That’s what I currently use, but I’m still on 10.14.x. I have no idea what the 
current standard is within the X world.)

-Don

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Philip Dennison via X11-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been using XQuartz for many years on several different Macs. In the past 
> my customized window settings have been retained during OS updates. By this I 
> mean my choice of initial size, text and background colors.
> 
> I have just updated my 2010 MacPro from El Camino to High Sierra, and my 
> settings have been lost. I get the default small black-on-white window.
> 
> It is so long since I set up those choices I can't remember how to do it...
> 
> They seem to have been saved in ~/.Xresources and are still present, but no 
> longer being used:
> 
> xterm.vt100.saveLines: 1000
> ! Colors
> !.xterm.vt100.background: firebrick4
> .xterm.vt100.background: rgb:6f/0/0
> .xterm.vt100.foreground: lightyellow1
> ! Geometry
> .xterm.vt100.geometry: 160x48+512+200
> 
> I tried copying these settings to ~/.profile and /etc/profile and ~/.bashrc 
> with no success.
> 
> Can anyone guide me on how to fix this?
> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> Phil.
> 
> -- 
> Dr Phil Dennison
> NMR Facility Director   (949)824-6010 (office)
> Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
> University of California(949)824-8571 (fax)
> Irvine, CA 92697-2025   denni...@uci.edu
> USA
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XQuartz window settings lost on OS update

[Philip Dennison via X11-users]

Hi all,

I've been using XQuartz for many years on several different Macs. In the 
past my customized window settings have been retained during OS updates. 
By this I mean my choice of initial size, text and background colors.


I have just updated my 2010 MacPro from El Camino to High Sierra, and my 
settings have been lost. I get the default small black-on-white window.


It is so long since I set up those choices I can't remember how to do it...

They seem to have been saved in ~/.Xresources and are still present, but 
no longer being used:


xterm.vt100.saveLines: 1000
! Colors
!.xterm.vt100.background: firebrick4
.xterm.vt100.background: rgb:6f/0/0
.xterm.vt100.foreground: lightyellow1
! Geometry
.xterm.vt100.geometry: 160x48+512+200

 I tried copying these settings to ~/.profile and /etc/profile and 
~/.bashrc with no success.


Can anyone guide me on how to fix this?

Thanks very much,

Phil.

--
Dr Phil Dennison
NMR Facility Director   (949)824-6010 (office)
Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
University of California(949)824-8571 (fax)
Irvine, CA 92697-2025   denni...@uci.edu
USA
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Re: xterm operation not permitted

[Mike Thornburg (mthorn) via X11-users]

> On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Pascal Bourguignon via X11-users 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:10, Ben Kilminster via X11-users 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I'm on a Mac  (Mac Catalina 10.15.2, XQuartz 2.7.11).
>> 
>> The problem is using the xterm provided by XQuartz, I no longer have 
>> permission to look in my directories :
>> Wed 16:59 [bjk] ls ~/Documents/
>> ls: : Operation not permitted
>> 
>> I found a solution recommended online, which is :
>> 1) System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> "Full Disk Access" 
>> 2) Unlock then add "Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app"
>> 3) Restart everything.
>> 
>> However, I still get the same error.  
>> 
>> The other "Terminal" program still works, so this is not fatal.  
>> But right now XQuartz is not usable for me.  Suggestions ?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ben
>> 
>> p.s. Apologies if I am posting to the wrong forum or should have found the 
>> answer to this somewhere online. 
> 
> 
> 1- consider switching to Linux.
> 
> 2- Disable System Integrity Protection.
> 
> $ csrutil status
> System Integrity Protection status: disabled.
> 
> But this will probably not work anymore in future versions of macOS…  
> therefore consider switching to Linux.  Or FreeBSD or OpenBSD if you really 
> want.
> 
> Note: you will need to reboot in Recovery Mode to do that.
> 

I don't know if this workaround works on Catalina because I am still running 
Mohave, but 
I have found that if I enable my account for remote login, start an xterm, and 

   ssh my_user_id@localhost

from within the xterm I can access the locations (eg, ~/Library/Safari) that 
are protected by System Integrity 
Protection on Mohave without having to disable System Integrity Protection.  I 
don't know if it makes any 
difference here, but I have also given the Terminal.app Full Disk Access in the 
Security & Privacy preferences.

If you want to start other xclients from the remote login session you will need 
to do something to set up 
the DISPLAY environment variable properly in your new shell, but as far as I 
know once you do that everything 
works.

Mike

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Re: xterm operation not permitted

[Fco. Javier Modrego via X11-users]

Reinstall xquartz by first uninstalling it completely.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250731310

http://information-technology.web.cern.ch/services/fe/mac-support/howto/about-macos-1015-catalina

Bets,
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Re: xterm operation not permitted

[Pascal Bourguignon via X11-users]

> On 5 Feb 2020, at 17:10, Ben Kilminster via X11-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I'm on a Mac  (Mac Catalina 10.15.2, XQuartz 2.7.11).
> 
> The problem is using the xterm provided by XQuartz, I no longer have 
> permission to look in my directories :
> Wed 16:59 [bjk] ls ~/Documents/
> ls: : Operation not permitted
> 
> I found a solution recommended online, which is :
> 1) System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> "Full Disk Access" 
> 2) Unlock then add "Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app"
> 3) Restart everything.
> 
> However, I still get the same error.  
> 
> The other "Terminal" program still works, so this is not fatal.  
> But right now XQuartz is not usable for me.  Suggestions ?
> 
> Best,
> Ben
> 
> p.s. Apologies if I am posting to the wrong forum or should have found the 
> answer to this somewhere online. 


1- consider switching to Linux.

2- Disable System Integrity Protection.

$ csrutil status
System Integrity Protection status: disabled.

But this will probably not work anymore in future versions of macOS…  therefore 
consider switching to Linux.  Or FreeBSD or OpenBSD if you really want.

Note: you will need to reboot in Recovery Mode to do that.


-- 
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xterm operation not permitted

[Ben Kilminster via X11-users]

Hello, 

I'm on a Mac  (Mac Catalina 10.15.2, XQuartz 2.7.11).

The problem is using the xterm provided by XQuartz, I no longer have permission 
to look in my directories :
Wed 16:59 [bjk] ls ~/Documents/
ls: : Operation not permitted

I found a solution recommended online, which is :
1) System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> "Full Disk Access" 
2) Unlock then add "Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app"
3) Restart everything.

However, I still get the same error.  

The other "Terminal" program still works, so this is not fatal.  
But right now XQuartz is not usable for me.  Suggestions ?

Best,
Ben

p.s. Apologies if I am posting to the wrong forum or should have found the 
answer to this somewhere online. 






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