Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Dean Groe wrote: We had a couple of Tornado Warnings from MLB here today, associated with Tropical Storm Andrea. I did not receive any alerts from firenet . Plenty of other data, but no Wx Alerts. I have Wx alert Logging turned on, nothing logged. What am I missing? When I look at incoming data and disconnect/reconnect to the internet server, I see one of these: N5JXS-F1 WE7U-F1 WE7U-F2 Those are the three Firenet servers. So that's the first check, make sure it's one of those three. The last time we had a problem it was because other aprs2.net servers were getting into the Firenet rotation for DNS. Next is filter strings. Here's mine: m/500 t/n e/WE7U-WX p/QUAKE o/ISS*/STEAM/UP844 It's the t/n e/WE7U-WX portion that's important for what you're after. I'm seeing lots of areas lit up in yellow/red/blue in Florida right now, as well as green rectangles and blue flood warning symbols. I don't currently see tornado symbols but have seen them on the map in the last day or so. To see these you need: Station-Filter Data-Select Objects/Items ON Station-Filter Data-Select Other Objects/Items ON Of course no delivery of these to your screen is guaranteed: Several things must be working perfectly in unison for the alerts to actually show up on your Xastir screen. Any time you think there's a problem though I want to hear about it. The last time things weren't working it was due to that Firenet DNS issue, which required human intervention to fix. -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u Closed-minded about open (-source)...___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Dean Groe wrote: The Standard rotate pool is fine for me. It has probably been 7 or 8 years since I last tuned in to firenet. There was lots of interesting stuff, but more than I need here. We are already suffering from information overload here in Central Florida. I only want the severe / warning alerts to bother me, and then I Gate those to stations who are RF only. I might get a chance to do a CVS update and install tonight. If so, I am hoping that will fix it for now. I was able to perform the update and install on Wednesday night. I also ran the get-NWS script again. It reported that my files we already up to date. Last night we had two severe thunderstorm warnings here. I was here when they occurred. Xastir did not receive any alerts. Just in case I missed something, I turned on Wx Alert Logging, but it caught nothing. For a while, I sat and watched the feed from rotate.aprs2.net:14580 . There was plenty of incoming data, but no weather alerts or related cancellations. I may have to try firenet instead. My concern there is non-serious alerts, since I Gate to RF. We will see what happens. Dean KD4TWJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Fri, 24 May 2013, Dean Groe wrote: I was able to perform the update and install on Wednesday night. I also ran the get-NWS script again. It reported that my files we already up to date. Last night we had two severe thunderstorm warnings here. I was here when they occurred. Xastir did not receive any alerts. Just in case I missed something, I turned on Wx Alert Logging, but it caught nothing. For a while, I sat and watched the feed from rotate.aprs2.net:14580 . There was plenty of incoming data, but no weather alerts or related cancellations. I may have to try firenet instead. My concern there is non-serious alerts, since I Gate to RF. We will see what happens. My definition of non-serious and the other implementor's idea of non-serious disagree a bit. I think you'll find that the alerts I generate are important enough to gate too. There still aren't a LOT of alerts being generated, so if you're only gating certain NWS stations through, you're fine. You won't be flooding RF. It's possible that the alerts that _were_ being sent to APRS-IS are not making it. I don't monitor over there, nor send weather alerts there, so don't know for sure. Perhaps others can comment? I have my Xastir at work zoomed out to USA zoom level and showing the weather alerts. It's of course connected to Firenet, but the alerts are showing up there. I'll keep monitoring it for a few more days that way to make sure they stay working. I don't think you'll miss any functionality if you connect to Firenet instead of APRS-IS, but send concerns my way if you do and I'll bring them up to the Firenet list if I can't answer directly. -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u APRS Device Capabilities: http://wetnet.net/~we7u/aprs_device_capabilities.html___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Wed, 22 May 2013, Dean Groe wrote: If you stick to the APRS-IS servers instead of Firenet you get fewer alerts: The guy who wrote the software for injecting them there had different priorities/thoughts about which alerts were important. It's a long story. So I came along later and independently wrote the same thing, but produce more types of alerts, which I inject into Firenet. Curt, thanks for the clarification. Yes I remember that story / debate. I detailed part of it in my homepage: http://wetnet.net/~we7u The Standard rotate pool is fine for me. It has probably been 7 or 8 years since I last tuned in to firenet. There was lots of interesting stuff, but more than I need here. We are already suffering from information overload here in Central Florida. I only want the severe / warning alerts to bother me, and then I Gate those to stations who are RF only. I might get a chance to do a CVS update and install tonight. If so, I am hoping that will fix it for now. One thing that I forgot to mention, the local NWS Office is MLB. I suppose that there could be a problem with their Internet feed of the alerts. I'm seeing lots of alerts. NWS offices tend not to go dark much. BTW: It appears that the firenet.aprs2.net rotate address has been fixed. I'm connected to it now and getting the correct Firenet servers. Alerts are lighting up the map. -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u APRS Wiki: http://info.aprs.net/ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Mon, 20 May 2013, David Flood wrote: And I can confirm that something is broke about the latest maps.I see the alerts show up in the view window, I see the loading weather alerts message in the lower left, but nothing shows up. This is with both Cygwin and OpenSuse 10.3 with just the world map displayed. I've got the latest NWS files (and even went back under Cygwin and loaded some old 2009/2010 ones I've got on a share) as well as the latest CVS as of yesterday.all putting those extra files out there is make the loading message stay on the screen longer. I think I have to agree with you. I didn't see a lot of alerts in my Xastir instance here (View-WX Alerts), so I kicked the weather alert server a bit ago and started seeing more alerts in that window. Still seeing ZERO areas lit up though. The most likely problem would be the newer NWS Shapefiles. I don't recall any changes to the Xastir code lately WRT weather alerts. I'll do some more checking. -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Mon, 20 May 2013, Curt, WE7U wrote: I think I have to agree with you. I didn't see a lot of alerts in my Xastir instance here (View-WX Alerts), so I kicked the weather alert server a bit ago and started seeing more alerts in that window. Still seeing ZERO areas lit up though. The most likely problem would be the newer NWS Shapefiles. I don't recall any changes to the Xastir code lately WRT weather alerts. I'll do some more checking. Just made sure my get-NWSdata script and Xastir code here were up-to-date, ran testdbfawk against each of the NWS .dbf files, all looked good to me. I'm waiting now to see if some good alerts come in and light up the map, under the assumption that the weather server was hung up and restarting it may get things flowing again. If that doesn't work I'll do some more checking. Found something: Connecting to firenet.aprs2.net right now causes problems, which is a bit annoying 'cuz that's the round-robin address which spreads the load across all three firenet servers. Every time I connected Xastir to that one I got: # logresp WE7U-3 verified, server T2CAEAST Which is interesting, 'cuz I don't know who T2CAEAST is... It's not one of the three Firenet servers. I'll talk to the T2 guys and get that fixed. Somehow we got a bad server in the rotation. This one works: firenet.us:14580 And this is the filter string I'm using: m/500 t/n e/WE7U-WX p/QUAKE o/ISS*/STEAM/UP844 I'm starting to see areas light up finally! -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. -Stephen Hawking ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Mon, 20 May 2013, Curt, WE7U wrote: Found something: Connecting to firenet.aprs2.net right now causes problems, which is a bit annoying 'cuz that's the round-robin address which spreads the load across all three firenet servers. Every time I connected Xastir to that one I got: # logresp WE7U-3 verified, server T2CAEAST Which is interesting, 'cuz I don't know who T2CAEAST is... It's not one of the three Firenet servers. I'll talk to the T2 guys and get that fixed. Somehow we got a bad server in the rotation. This one works: firenet.us:14580 And this is the filter string I'm using: m/500 t/n e/WE7U-WX p/QUAKE o/ISS*/STEAM/UP844 I'm starting to see areas light up finally! The three individual addresses of Firenet servers are: firenet-1.aprs2.net firenet-2.aprs2.net firenet-3.aprs2.net Any of those should work as well. firenet.us and firenet-1.aprs.2.net are the same machine. Once the bogus server is out of the rotation, the preferred address will be firenet.aprs2.net again because it spreads the load across all three servers. -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u Closed-minded about open (-source)... ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
OK, I guess that I learned something new. So I have to use firenet, not the standard rotate pool? I remember seeing some talk about Wx Alerts on firenet before, but I assumed that was targeted to people who wanted to optionally use that feed AND get alerts. If I remember correctly, we are NOT supposed to inject additional data / objects into firenet. I am currently running Xastir as a bi-directional I-Gate and Wx Station. So if I understand this correctly, I can either have an I-Gate with the rotate feed, or I can get (and Gate to RF) Wx alerts from firenet, but not both. Is this correct? Curt, I think it was about a week and a half ago that I compiled from latest and got and ran the latest NWS script, so it should pretty much be up to date. Thanks Dean KD4TWJ From: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com To: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org; 'Dean Groe' warpedspe...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts On Mon, 20 May 2013, Curt, WE7U wrote: Found something: Connecting to firenet.aprs2.net right now causes problems, which is a bit annoying 'cuz that's the round-robin address which spreads the load across all three firenet servers. Every time I connected Xastir to that one I got: # logresp WE7U-3 verified, server T2CAEAST Which is interesting, 'cuz I don't know who T2CAEAST is... It's not one of the three Firenet servers. I'll talk to the T2 guys and get that fixed. Somehow we got a bad server in the rotation. This one works: firenet.us:14580 And this is the filter string I'm using: m/500 t/n e/WE7U-WX p/QUAKE o/ISS*/STEAM/UP844 I'm starting to see areas light up finally! The three individual addresses of Firenet servers are: firenet-1.aprs2.net firenet-2.aprs2.net firenet-3.aprs2.net Any of those should work as well. firenet.us and firenet-1.aprs.2.net are the same machine. Once the bogus server is out of the rotation, the preferred address will be firenet.aprs2.net again because it spreads the load across all three servers. -- Curt, WE7U. http://wetnet.net/~we7u Closed-minded about open (-source)... ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Dean Groe wrote: So I have to use firenet, not the standard rotate pool? I don't think that is the case, but I use Firenet all the time so for me it's the default! I'm one of the Firenet guys writing the scripts injecting Firenet objects, running two of the Firenet servers, also wrote the weather alert scripts that are injecting weather alerts into Firenet. If you stick to the APRS-IS servers instead of Firenet you get fewer alerts: The guy who wrote the software for injecting them there had different priorities/thoughts about which alerts were important. It's a long story. So I came along later and independently wrote the same thing, but produce more types of alerts, which I inject into Firenet. Firenet also has LOTS more objects than APRS-IS, but otherwise you can think of them as the same thing, and they are interconnected. The special injection alerts and objects on Firenet do not get ported across to APRS-IS, but all the usual user/igate things are ported bidirectionally. I remember seeing some talk about Wx Alerts on firenet before, but I assumed that was targeted to people who wanted to optionally use that feed AND get alerts. If I remember correctly, we are NOT supposed to inject additional data / objects into firenet. Not true. As I understand it you should treat it as you do the APRS-IS. It's the APRS-IS + extra Firenet objects/alerts. I am currently running Xastir as a bi-directional I-Gate and Wx Station. So if I understand this correctly, I can either have an I-Gate with the rotate feed, or I can get (and Gate to RF) Wx alerts from firenet, but not both. Is this correct? Nope. Run the igate on Firenet if you wish. Run it on APRS-IS servers if you get enough weather alerts and other objects to satisfy you. I do inject some objects into both, but usually limit what goes into APRS-IS: Earthquake objects are a prime example. Curt, I think it was about a week and a half ago that I compiled from latest and got and ran the latest NWS script, so it should pretty much be up to date. You should probably do a cvs update and then run through the compile/install again. We changed things last Thursday the 16th and will be changing them again on or about June 6th and July 1st. The NWS keeps changing files on us, so every time I make a change I re-check their site and add upcoming file changes to my Google Calendar so I get reminded when I need to change Xastir again. It's a pain! -- Curt, WE7U.http://wetnet.net/~we7u Closed-minded about open (-source)...___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? We had a couple of Severe Thunderstorm Warnings here today, but no alerts came across the Internet Interface in Xastir. Thanks Dean KD4TWJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
Mine seem to work On May 20, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Dean Groe warpedspe...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? We had a couple of Severe Thunderstorm Warnings here today, but no alerts came across the Internet Interface in Xastir. Thanks Dean KD4TWJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
If you go to View / Weather Alerts, is anything listed? Something does appear to be messed up...I've got a lot of alerts in just the last five minutes and nothing is lit up on the map... And I'm not getting any warnings about DBFAWK files in the term window...so that's not it.. -Original Message- From: xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org [mailto:xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Groe Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:11 PM Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
Nothing listed at all right now. I was here while some of the warnings were still active late this afternoon. There was nothing listed then either. Dean KD4TWJ From: David Flood davi...@mindspring.com To: 'Dean Groe' warpedspe...@yahoo.com; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' xastir@lists.xastir.org Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts If you go to View / Weather Alerts, is anything listed? Something does appear to be messed up...I've got a lot of alerts in just the last five minutes and nothing is lit up on the map... And I'm not getting any warnings about DBFAWK files in the term window...so that's not it.. -Original Message- From: xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org [mailto:xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Groe Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:11 PM Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
Ok, check your feed then.it has to be one of the firenet servers (or the round robin firenet.aprs2.net), you have to have a valid confirmation code (even in rx only mode) and you have to have t/n e/WE7U-WX as part of your parm string.and it is case sensitive. From: Dean Groe [mailto:warpedspe...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:08 PM To: David Flood; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' Subject: Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts Nothing listed at all right now. I was here while some of the warnings were still active late this afternoon. There was nothing listed then either. Dean KD4TWJ _ From: David Flood davi...@mindspring.com To: 'Dean Groe' warpedspe...@yahoo.com; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' xastir@lists.xastir.org Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts If you go to View / Weather Alerts, is anything listed? Something does appear to be messed up...I've got a lot of alerts in just the last five minutes and nothing is lit up on the map... And I'm not getting any warnings about DBFAWK files in the term window...so that's not it.. -Original Message- From: xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org [mailto:xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Groe Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:11 PM Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts
And I can confirm that something is broke about the latest maps.I see the alerts show up in the view window, I see the loading weather alerts message in the lower left, but nothing shows up. This is with both Cygwin and OpenSuse 10.3 with just the world map displayed. I've got the latest NWS files (and even went back under Cygwin and loaded some old 2009/2010 ones I've got on a share) as well as the latest CVS as of yesterday.all putting those extra files out there is make the loading message stay on the screen longer. From: David Flood [mailto:davi...@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:25 PM To: 'Dean Groe'; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' Subject: RE: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts Ok, check your feed then.it has to be one of the firenet servers (or the round robin firenet.aprs2.net), you have to have a valid confirmation code (even in rx only mode) and you have to have t/n e/WE7U-WX as part of your parm string.and it is case sensitive. From: Dean Groe [mailto:warpedspe...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:08 PM To: David Flood; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' Subject: Re: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts Nothing listed at all right now. I was here while some of the warnings were still active late this afternoon. There was nothing listed then either. Dean KD4TWJ _ From: David Flood davi...@mindspring.com To: 'Dean Groe' warpedspe...@yahoo.com; 'Xastir - APRS client software discussion' xastir@lists.xastir.org Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [Xastir] NWS Weather Alerts If you go to View / Weather Alerts, is anything listed? Something does appear to be messed up...I've got a lot of alerts in just the last five minutes and nothing is lit up on the map... And I'm not getting any warnings about DBFAWK files in the term window...so that's not it.. -Original Message- From: xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org [mailto:xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org] On Behalf Of Dean Groe Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:11 PM Anyone know if Weather Alerts are broken again? ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
