Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
Dan Mergens writes: Egbert, There is enough information out there if you're an experience google search and have a day to search through all the bad information and unanswered questions. What is really needed is clear organization and links to the helpful sites such as the one you mentioned. You are welcome to use the site I've mentioned to add some helpful links. The problem with many such links is that they contain only workarounds - the real problem often doesn't get addressed. I try to monitor the site I mentioned from time to time and check if the anwers given there appear to be correct. I cannot however monitor any help page on the internet or any link added to this site. The benefit of this site is however that you (and the others on this list) can become active and don't have to wait for a web master to become active. Therefore information can be added and corrected quickly. If you help me to make this site more known it may actually become useful some day. If that will happen at all and how useful it will become is up to you all. There is really no barrier that would stop you from helping. Egbert. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
Mark Vojkovich writes: There was a group working on a FAQ, but I'm not sure what the status on that is. We could sure use some efforts to keep the level of redundant questions down. We get too many i845G doesn't work, too many fixed font questions, etc... The XFree86 merely contains the same documentation about configuration that is also in your system when you install X. These are the man pages for the drivers, the Xservers and the config files, the READMEs and the release notes. It isn't really helpful to find any information on troubleshooting. I've started a Wiki with an FAQ at: http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org. Despite the name this to cover XFree86 on all platforms. Therefore I don't understand why people are whining about not having an FAQ. This FAQ already addresses a lot of the questions that are asked the most. If anyone would like to help me filling it with more useful information please feel free to do so. It is not required that you submit your contributions anywhere. It is a Wiki, you can just add it right in place. Egbert. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
Egbert, There is enough information out there if you're an experience google search and have a day to search through all the bad information and unanswered questions. What is really needed is clear organization and links to the helpful sites such as the one you mentioned. Egbert Eich wrote: Mark Vojkovich writes: There was a group working on a FAQ, but I'm not sure what the status on that is. We could sure use some efforts to keep the level of redundant questions down. We get too many i845G doesn't work, too many fixed font questions, etc... The XFree86 merely contains the same documentation about configuration that is also in your system when you install X. These are the man pages for the drivers, the Xservers and the config files, the READMEs and the release notes. It isn't really helpful to find any information on troubleshooting. I've started a Wiki with an FAQ at: http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org. Despite the name this to cover XFree86 on all platforms. Therefore I don't understand why people are whining about not having an FAQ. This FAQ already addresses a lot of the questions that are asked the most. If anyone would like to help me filling it with more useful information please feel free to do so. It is not required that you submit your contributions anywhere. It is a Wiki, you can just add it right in place. Egbert. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] Lacking organization
I recently read a comment by a contributor who is tired of hearing the same questions over and over regarding configuration and I understand his complaint after responding to several posts. I believe this could be helped a great deal if there was better organization of the website. I've used several resources to configure my laptop for X, but it seems that a google search is more effective that simply navigating the xfree website. For instance, the Support, Documentation, Release page has many good documents with no organization and is surprising missing a link that would explain how to configure and test XFree86! I do believe it is there, but the titles do not indicate so. I would be happy to help organize or suggest improvements. Dan ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
I'd be willing to help as well. I'm just a newbie, but I could help organize some of the docs or write new ones. Is there a way to submit docs to be published on the site? I'll be posting later tonight about a problem that I am having, and once I get it figured out I'll finish up a web page that I'm writing to document the problem and solution. I'd love to gpl it or something. Thanks, Bob -- Original Message -- From: Dan Mergens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:17:23 -0700 I recently read a comment by a contributor who is tired of hearing the same questions over and over regarding configuration and I understand his complaint after responding to several posts. I believe this could be helped a great deal if there was better organization of the website. I've used several resources to configure my laptop for X, but it seems that a google search is more effective that simply navigating the xfree website. For instance, the Support, Documentation, Release page has many good documents with no organization and is surprising missing a link that would explain how to configure and test XFree86! I do believe it is there, but the titles do not indicate so. I would be happy to help organize or suggest improvements. Dan ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
There was a group working on a FAQ, but I'm not sure what the status on that is. We could sure use some efforts to keep the level of redundant questions down. We get too many i845G doesn't work, too many fixed font questions, etc... Mark. On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Dan Mergens wrote: I recently read a comment by a contributor who is tired of hearing the same questions over and over regarding configuration and I understand his complaint after responding to several posts. I believe this could be helped a great deal if there was better organization of the website. I've used several resources to configure my laptop for X, but it seems that a google search is more effective that simply navigating the xfree website. For instance, the Support, Documentation, Release page has many good documents with no organization and is surprising missing a link that would explain how to configure and test XFree86! I do believe it is there, but the titles do not indicate so. I would be happy to help organize or suggest improvements. Dan ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Lacking organization
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:17:23PM -0700, Dan Mergens wrote: I recently read a comment by a contributor who is tired of hearing the same questions over and over regarding configuration and I understand his complaint after responding to several posts. I believe this could be helped a great deal if there was better organization of the website. I've used several resources to configure my laptop for X, but it seems that a google search is more effective that simply navigating the xfree website. For instance, the Support, Documentation, Release page has many good documents with no organization and is surprising missing a link that would explain how to configure and test XFree86! I do believe it is there, but the titles do not indicate so. I don't think it exists, at least not amongst the XFree86 documentation. Quoting from the Installation document at http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/Install.html: The next step is to configure the X server. That is covered in detail in an as-yet unwritten document :-(. In the meantime, there are three ways to create a basic X server configuration file for XFree86 4.3.0. One is to run the xf86config utility. Another is to run the xf86cfg utility. The third option is to use the new -configure X server option: (The Installation document, and other XFree86 documents can be found by following the Current release documentation link on the support page.) We used to have a config document, but like a large fraction of our docs, it is too out of date to be useful now. I would be happy to help organize or suggest improvements. I think lack of content to oraganise is the more serious problem. If you have suggestions, or links to useful documentation that isn't referenced on our support page, please either log them in the web site section of bugs.xfree86.org, or send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] David -- David Dawes X-Oz Technologies www.XFree86.org/~dawes www.x-oz.com ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
