Re: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 early show (FLAC Audi= o)

2005-06-27 Thread Bart
OK Joseph (thanks for Paris) thanks for sorting things out (and thanks for 
Paris)
so the vine's like this, am I right?:

David G-US  Bart (PL)

David, contact me when you're done, please

Cheers
Bart

Użytkownik abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał:
Bart, there was a disc of the early show going aroun, now on it\'s way to 
David G.  If there was actually a late show going, I didn\'t see it.

Joseph




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[Zappa-List] Re: VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Confessions of A Groupi

2005-06-27 Thread end of
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   Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:53 -
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Subject: Re: VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - 
Confessions of A Groupie


wav format: dawayne-US  white rabbitt-US  Scott Burnett-US  Andre 
Netherlands 
(Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Confessions of A Groupie)

i have just added my name to the vine so i hope that's ok ?
thanks
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Re: [Zappa-List] convert

2005-06-27 Thread Richard





Yes, dB Power amp music converter has just about 
every codec imaginable. Failing that a program called Audacity will...Put those 
two names into a search engine, they are both free!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] convert
  
  Anyone know how to convert to iso 9600 
  discsfor mac users here?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim 
L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:26 
PM
Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] convert


Like 
Cris said TMPGEnc’s video editor can probably do it They also make the best 
DVD authoring software I’ve seen so far with a free full featured try out. 
There are a bunch of other products available as well. This website is like 
the oracle of all video knowledge.
http://www.videohelp.com/

Jim L 





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of RichardSent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:08 
PMTo: 
Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] 
convert


Thanks for that 
Cris!

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: Cris 
  Haldenby 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:02 PM
  
  Subject: Re: 
  [Zappa-List] convert
  
  
  
  Hi Richard
  
  This one does most of those 
  jobs.
  
  Have a look at the FAQs for further 
  info.
  
  
  
  http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html
  
  
  
  Cris
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On 26 Jun 2005, at 9:40 pm, Richard 
  wrote:
  
  
  Hi 
  All,
  
   
  does anyone know of any free software a guy can download that will convert 
  MPEG, AVI, 
  Windows media and so on, into VCD/DVD or any other format that is playable 
  on domestic DVD players? A facility to swap between NTSC and PAL formats 
  might be good too, but maybe I am asking a little much 
  there.
  
  
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Con...

2005-06-27 Thread Nick Ullmann
Hi, Sofa,
Yeh, I think you're right, but I'll be patient and wait a bit - til the heat 
dies down,




Kind Regards, nick




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Band - Con...
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:58:47 -0400

Lee,
At the yahoo groups Zappa_List page, there's a FAQ in the files section that 
explains vining and how to participate, and what is expected of the 
participants; check it out.
Normally, you'd respond to the LATEST vine message by simply typing  your 
name-country   after the last name on the list. It couldn't be easier!

Nick,
You may want to recheck the messages at the yahoo groups Zappa_List page; I 
think you have a few others before you in line (you responded correctly, but 
to an earlier message I'm afraid). I could be wrong tho...
Warm Regards,
SOFA
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   I would like to get in on this. How do I add my name to the list? 
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[Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread SOFA





Hey Kids!
I think I'd like some opinions, if you'd be so kind.
Thanks to brother Bart, in Poland, I have sought out the recording of 801130, Des Moines, IA - billed as "The sickest songlist you've ever seen". It's a B- 
audience recording (and IMO that B- is kind; I'd rate it a C-). I intend to 
start a vine of this show...
Now I intend to rip this to my machine, and tweeze it for my own enjoyment. 
I believe that I can improve upon the overall quality; tho there are limits to 
what you can do, of course (a polished turd is still a turd - FZ). My question 
to all of you out there: would you rather have a copy warts and all, or would 
you rather have a SOFA tweezed copy?
PLEASE! Don't bother to respond to this with "I want a copy when it's 
ready" - that is NOT part of the conversation right now. I wanna know if the 
collectors out there would rather mess with it themselves (if they mess with it 
at all), or listen to a "pure" artifact. I'd also love to know if a cleaner copy 
of this show exists, but I kinda doubt it.
For example: the Illinois Enema Bandit encore on my copies does not include 
Sweet Lelani - it cuts off just as the solo starts to roll. And - I think - it's 
Pick Me I'm Clean that has a nasty warble, until the song finally just cuts out. 
I would replace these with (god forbid) tracks from around the same time... I 
wanna seriously mess with this mofo; because right now, I find it damn near 
unlistenable. But that's me. I really wanna know what you guys think. Because I 
will gladly pass on this turd as it sits...
Let the debate begin...
Regards,
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Re: [Zappa-List] convert

2005-06-27 Thread John Goddard





Thanks Cris
I maybe didn't make myself clear enough 
really here goes

I have a PC And wanted a format ISO 
9600So a Mac User can read the disc on his/her Mac without any 
problems the same disc can also be read on any PC

Toast from Roxio is for Mac users after 
reading up on the Roxio website

John

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cris 
  Haldenby 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] convert
  
  
  
  Hi John
  Here are a couple you could check out.
  http://www.magiciso.com/
  
  The best is Roxio Toast, just drag and drop and it will do the 
  job.
  It can be expensive though.
  
  Cris
  
  
  On 27 Jun 2005, at 2:27 am, John Goddard wrote:
  Anyone know how to convert 
  to iso 9600 discsfor mac users here?
  
- Original Message 
-
From: 
Jim 
L
To: 
Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 
June 26, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: 
[Zappa-List] convert


Like Cris said 
TMPGEnc’s video editor can probably do it They also make the best DVD 
authoring software I’ve seen so far with a free full featured try out. There 
are a bunch of other products available as well. This website is like the 
oracle of all video knowledge.
http://www.videohelp.com/

Jim 
L




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On Behalf Of 
RichardSent: Sunday, 
June 26, 2005 5:08 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
[Zappa-List] convert


Thanks for that 
Cris!

  
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  -
  
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  To: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  
  Sent: 
  Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:02 PM
  
  Subject: Re: 
  [Zappa-List] convert
  
  
  
  Hi 
  Richard
  
  This one does most 
  of those jobs.
  
  Have a look at the 
  FAQs for further info.
  
  
  
  http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html
  
  
  
  Cris
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On 26 Jun 2005, at 
  9:40 pm, Richard wrote:
  
  
  Hi 
  All,
  
   
  does anyone know of any free software a guy can download that will convert 
  MPEG, AVI, Windows 
  media and so on, into VCD/DVD or any other format that is playable on 
  domestic DVD players? A facility to swap between NTSC and PAL formats 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread David Golden
Polish the turd.


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RE: [Zappa-List] convert

2005-06-27 Thread Jim L










So I think
Im understanding this better now. The original question on this thread
was about video conversion. Then John asked about the data CD format for Mac /
PC. So anyway I think the key here is the Joliet format or UDF102 with a Joliet
bridge. One of these 2 formats used to create the data disc on a PC should make
it compatible. My software can do both as well as an ISO 9660 format. The last
one cant add a Joliet Bridge however. Im guessing John asked
about this with concept of vine in mind. In other words if we do a vine of flac
or ape files it just wouldnt be good if a Mac couldnt read the
data disc containing the files. Id never considered this angle before. 




Jim L 











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Of Jim L
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After a
little more homework I realized what your talking about is the format of the
disc itself. This might be of some help.

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum49/35.htm




Jim L 











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Yes, dB Power amp music converter has just about every codec
imaginable. Failing that a program called Audacity will...Put those two names
into a search engine, they are both free!







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From: John Goddard 





To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com






Sent: Monday, June 27,
2005 2:27 AM





Subject: Re: [Zappa-List]
convert











Anyone know how to convert to iso 9600
discsfor mac users here?







- Original Message - 





From: Jim L






To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com






Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005
11:26 PM





Subject: RE: [Zappa-List]
convert









Like Cris
said TMPGEncs video editor can probably do it They also make the best
DVD authoring software Ive seen so far with a free full featured try
out. There are a bunch of other products available as well. This website is
like the oracle of all video knowledge.

http://www.videohelp.com/




Jim L 











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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:08
PM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] convert







Thanks for that Cris!







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From: Cris Haldenby






To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com






Sent: Sunday, June 26,
2005 10:02 PM





Subject: Re: [Zappa-List]
convert











Hi Richard





This one does most of those jobs.





Have a look at the FAQs for further info.











http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html











Cris





















On 26 Jun 2005, at 9:40 pm, Richard wrote:







Hi All,






does anyone know of any free software a guy can download that will convert MPEG, AVI, Windows media and so on, into
VCD/DVD or any other format that is playable on domestic DVD players? A
facility to swap between NTSC and PAL formats might be good too, but maybe I am
asking a little much there.











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RE: [Zappa-List] convert

2005-06-27 Thread Jim L










I use
Roxio 7.5 for the PC and It offers the three formats I mentioned. From what Ive
read all data CD is based on iso 9600. Ten there are additional layers of formatting
used to access the files. Joliet seems to be one Mac can use. The ISO 9660 may
be a PC only thing. Im not sure what format options Nero offers. 






Jim L 











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Of John Goddard
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 6:36
PM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] convert







Thanks Cris





I maybe didn't make myself clear enough
really here goes











I have a PC And wanted a format ISO
9600So a Mac User can read the disc on his/her Mac without any
problems the same disc can also be read on any PC











Toast from Roxio is for Mac users after
reading up on the Roxio website











John







- Original Message - 





From: Cris Haldenby






To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com






Sent: Monday, June 27,
2005 7:36 AM





Subject: Re: [Zappa-List]
convert























Hi John





Here are a couple you could check out.





http://www.magiciso.com/











The best is Roxio Toast, just drag and drop and it will do the
job.





It can be expensive though.











Cris















On 27 Jun 2005, at 2:27 am, John Goddard wrote:











Anyone know how to convert to iso 9600 discsfor mac users
here?







-
Original Message -





From: Jim L





To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com





Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:26 PM





Subject: RE: [Zappa-List]
convert











Like Cris said TMPGEncs video editor can probably do it They also
make the best DVD authoring software Ive seen so far with a free full featured
try out. There are a bunch of other products available as well. This website is
like the oracle of all video knowledge.

http://www.videohelp.com/




Jim
L











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On Behalf Of Richard
Sent:
Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:08 PM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Re: [Zappa-List] convert












Thanks
for that Cris!







-
Original Message -





From: Cris
Haldenby





To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com





Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:02 PM





Subject: Re: [Zappa-List]
convert
















Hi Richard





This one does
most of those jobs.





Have a look
at the FAQs for further info.
















http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html
















Cris




































On 26 Jun
2005, at 9:40 pm, Richard wrote:







Hi All,






does anyone know of any free software a guy can download that will convert MPEG, AVI, Windows media and so on, into
VCD/DVD or any other format that is playable on domestic DVD players? A
facility to swap between NTSC and PAL formats might be good too, but maybe I am
asking a little much there.
















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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread John Goddard





sofa
Just as a matter of interest as Zappa 
list is technical at the mome ??
What type of software does one use to 
polish a Frank Zappa concertTurd (Not Frank Himself, a concert by Frank+, 
Hideously recorded?)

John

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:05 
AM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] Mental CT 
  Hygiene Delemma
  
  
  I’d 
  trust your treatment and being basically lazy would prefer not to have to do 
  it myself. 
  
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of SOFASent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:15 
  PMTo: the ListSubject: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene 
  Delemma
  
  
  Hey Kids!
  
  I think I'd like some opinions, if you'd be so 
  kind.
  
  Thanks to brother Bart, in Poland, I have sought out 
  the recording of 801130, Des Moines, IA - billed as 
  "The sickest songlist 
  you've ever seen". It's a B- audience recording (and IMO that 
  B- is kind; I'd rate it a C-). I intend to start a vine of this 
  show...
  
  Now I intend to rip this to my machine, and tweeze it 
  for my own enjoyment. I believe that I can improve upon the overall quality; 
  tho there are limits to what you can do, of course (a polished turd is still a 
  turd - FZ). My question to all of you out there: would you rather have a copy 
  warts and all, or would you rather have a SOFA tweezed 
  copy?
  
  PLEASE! Don't bother to respond to this with "I want a 
  copy when it's ready" - that is NOT part of the conversation right now. I 
  wanna know if the collectors out there would rather mess with it themselves 
  (if they mess with it at all), or listen to a "pure" artifact. I'd also love 
  to know if a cleaner copy of this show exists, but I kinda doubt 
  it.
  
  For example: the Illinois Enema Bandit encore on my 
  copies does not include Sweet Lelani - it cuts off just as the solo starts to 
  roll. And - I think - it's Pick Me I'm Clean that has a nasty warble, until 
  the song finally just cuts out. I would replace these with (god forbid) tracks 
  from around the same time... I wanna seriously mess with this mofo; because 
  right now, I find it damn near unlistenable. But that's me. I really wanna 
  know what you guys think. Because I will gladly pass on this turd as it 
  sits...
  
  Let the debate begin...
  
  Regards,
  
  SOFA
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  further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank 
  you. 
  
  

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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread SOFA





There are lots of nice audio editing suites out there John; I happen to use 
Soundforge 4.5. This is an old program that was given to me a long time ago... 
They have since upgraded to a 6 or better? Anyway, Sonic Foundry, who make it, 
have their shit together afa I'm concerned.
Editing programs can be costly; I'd find someone with a Soundforge program 
who'd be willing to share with you - as I did. I like Soundforge because of it's 
ease. I had no manual, or instructions with it and I could operate it 
immediately (and I am like supremely stupid with techie things).
CoolEdit is another program that's kinda popular...
I bet JimL could quote a raft of options.
For my money - or complete lack thereof - it's Soundforge.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:22 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT 
  Hygiene Delemma
  
  sofa
  Just as a matter of interest as Zappa 
  list is technical at the mome ??
  What type of software does one use to 
  polish a Frank Zappa concertTurd (Not Frank Himself, a concert by 
  Frank+, Hideously recorded?)
  
  John


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