Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75
I didn't intend to lay blame solely on your shoulders, Craig. This vine got convoluted early, before you hooked up, and got even worse with time - it was a group effort... Our little system is not the most efficient or effective, but it works when the rules are followed. At issue is tracking the vine - for active participants and would-be, or future, participants. In order to use the 'Search' feature at the main page to track a vine, there needs to be continuity in the process, or the thread gets waylaid. The most important thing is the subject line; a Vine's Subject should always begin with VO, followed by the title of the collection. Other info, like DVD or CD or FLAC, can appear in the subject line - at the end - as long as the Subject starts out properly. And that subject line needs to perpetuate unchanged; even a little difference like 12-26-75 vs. 12/26/75 will throw off the Vine's tractability. It's a tomato / tomahto thing: essentially meaningless to we mortals, it means a lot to the machine we use to convey our message... So do not feel it was your bad, Bro. In all likelihood, I could have caught the subtle change at the time, and corrected it - as I've done on numerous occasions, but (since I rarely participate in these things) moderating the daily activities of a group as large as ours is rather time consuming. Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Craig Satzman To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75 I included that text with the vine. I apologize for any trouble. Peace, Craig - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75 I finally took some time to track this one down - to the best of my ability... There are rules involved in vining here and if everyone followed them, this would not happen (or, at least, tracking the vine would be much easier). This is the best order that I found (if this order is not correct, the vine participants have only themselves to blame): Craig in California bigsassydog@ ... Rand in Texas plotch12@ . Joe Boden (New Zealand)joseph.boden@ otago.ac. nz Robert S (US) n2spcmusc@ Bart (Pol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rand, when you're ready to pass this on to Joe in New Zealand, please respond to this message, leaving the Subject Line intact, and remove Craig's and your name from the front. Thank You. SOFA - Original Message - From: Craig Satzman To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/26/75 Vine Craig in California here. I am done with the 12/26/75 cd. Who is next after me ?? I seem to have deleted the original email, my bad Where can I go ?? (Says the Oakland cds ??) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM
Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75
No problem on my end. I wrote that I included the info, in an effort to get others to do the same. Keep the info flowing with the discs. Now that I know exactly what to do, I think that I will pull something nice out of my collection and start another vine. This was one of the more difficult vines that I have done. But hey, it is for Frank Zappa, so we all adapt and do our best. Thanks for the insights, simple rules make life simple. Peace, Craig - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75 I didn't intend to lay blame solely on your shoulders, Craig. This vine got convoluted early, before you hooked up, and got even worse with time - it was a group effort... Our little system is not the most efficient or effective, but it works when the rules are followed. At issue is tracking the vine - for active participants and would-be, or future, participants. In order to use the 'Search' feature at the main page to track a vine, there needs to be continuity in the process, or the thread gets waylaid. The most important thing is the subject line; a Vine's Subject should always begin with VO, followed by the title of the collection. Other info, like DVD or CD or FLAC, can appear in the subject line - at the end - as long as the Subject starts out properly. And that subject line needs to perpetuate unchanged; even a little difference like 12-26-75 vs. 12/26/75 will throw off the Vine's tractability. It's a tomato / tomahto thing: essentially meaningless to we mortals, it means a lot to the machine we use to convey our message... So do not feel it was your bad, Bro. In all likelihood, I could have caught the subtle change at the time, and corrected it - as I've done on numerous occasions, but (since I rarely participate in these things) moderating the daily activities of a group as large as ours is rather time consuming. Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: Craig Satzman To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75 I included that text with the vine. I apologize for any trouble. Peace, Craig - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75 I finally took some time to track this one down - to the best of my ability... There are rules involved in vining here and if everyone followed them, this would not happen (or, at least, tracking the vine would be much easier). This is the best order that I found (if this order is not correct, the vine participants have only themselves to blame): Craig in California bigsassydog@ ... Rand in Texas plotch12@ . Joe Boden (New Zealand)joseph.boden@ otago.ac. nz Robert S (US) n2spcmusc@ Bart (Pol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rand, when you're ready to pass this on to Joe in New Zealand, please respond to this message, leaving the Subject Line intact, and remove Craig's and your name from the front. Thank You. SOFA - Original Message - From: Craig Satzman To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/26/75 Vine Craig in California here. I am done with the 12/26/75 cd. Who is next after me ?? I seem to have deleted the original email, my bad Where can I go ?? (Says the Oakland cds ??) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM
[Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75
I finally took some time to track this one down - to the best of my ability... There are rules involved in vining here and if everyone followed them, this would not happen (or, at least, tracking the vine would be much easier). This is the best order that I found (if this order is not correct, the vine participants have only themselves to blame): Craig in California bigsassydog@ ... Rand in Texas plotch12@ . Joe Boden (New Zealand)joseph.boden@ otago.ac. nz Robert S (US) n2spcmusc@ Bart (Pol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rand, when you're ready to pass this on to Joe in New Zealand, please respond to this message, leaving the Subject Line intact, and remove Craig's and your name from the front. Thank You. SOFA - Original Message - From: Craig Satzman To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/26/75 Vine Craig in California here. I am done with the 12/26/75 cd. Who is next after me ?? I seem to have deleted the original email, my bad Where can I go ?? (Says the Oakland cds ??) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links