Re: [zfs-discuss] LAST CALL: zfs-discuss is moving Sunday, March 24, 2013

2013-03-24 Thread Hans J. Albertsson

However, the zfs-discuss list seems to be archived at gmane.


On 2013-03-22 22:57, Cindy Swearingen wrote:

I hope to see everyone on the other side...

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[zfs-discuss] What would be the best tutorial cum reference doc for ZFS

2013-03-19 Thread Hans J. Albertsson

as used on Illumos?

I've seen a few tutorials written by people who obviously are very 
action oriented; afterwards you find you have worn your keyboard down a 
bit and not learned a lot at all, at least not in the sense of 
understanding what zfs is and what it does and why things are the way 
they are.


I'm looking for something that would make me afterwards understand what, 
say, commands like  zpool import ... or zfs send ... actually do, and 
some idea as to why, so I can begin to understand ZFS in a way that 
allows me to make educated guesses on how to perform tasks I haven't 
tried before.

And mostly without having to ask around for days on end.

For SOME part of zfs I'm already there, but only for the things I had to 
do more than twice or so while managing the Swedish lab at Sun Micro.



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Re: [zfs-discuss] Question on 4k sectors

2012-07-19 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
I think the problem is with disks that are 4k organised, but report 
their blocksize as 512.


If the disk reports it's blocksize correctly as 4096, then ZFS should 
not have a problem.
At least my 2TB Seagate Barracuda disks seemed to report their 
blocksizes as 4096, and my zpools on those machines have ashift set to 
12, which is correct, since 2¹² = 4096


You cannot mix 512 and 4096 byte blocksize disks in one pool, at least 
not in a mirror. All disks in a single pool should have the same blocksize.


There is a hacked version of zpool for OpenIndiana that has a blocksize 
option to the create subcommand. I don't know if other OSes have similar 
fixes.
Such a hacked zpool might not be useful for the root pool at install 
time, at least it would require some subterfuge to make the installation 
use the correct blocksize, since the process is a bit too far automated.



On 2012-07-19 14:00, zfs-discuss-requ...@opensolaris.org wrote:

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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:44:37 +0200 (CEST)
From: Dave U. Random
To:zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: [zfs-discuss] Question on 4k sectors
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<07c48c7b7d3a7e568976704a375af...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net>

Hi. Is the problem with ZFS supporting 4k sectors or is the problem mixing
512 byte and 4k sector disks in one pool, or something else? I have seen
alot of discussion on the 4k issue but I haven't understood what the actual
problem ZFS has with 4k sectors is. It's getting harder and harder to find
large disks with 512 byte sectors so what should we do? TIA...


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating 512 byte block zfs root pool to 4k disks

2012-06-16 Thread Hans J Albertsson
On x86 on zfs cyl 0 must be left out of zfs root pools.
Been there.


Skickat från min Android MobilRichard Elling  
skrev:On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Hung-Sheng Tsao Ph.D. wrote:

> by the way
> when you format start with cylinder 1 donot use 0

There is no requirement for skipping cylinder 0 for root on Solaris, and there
never has been.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating 512 byte block zfs root pool to 4k disks

2012-06-16 Thread Hans J Albertsson
I'm on openindiana 151-a4




Skickat från min Android MobilCindy Swearingen  
skrev:Hi Hans,

Its important to identify your OS release to determine if
booting from a 4k disk is supported.

Thanks,

Cindy



On 06/15/12 06:14, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
> I've got my root pool on a mirror on 2 512 byte blocksize disks.
> I want to move the root pool to two 2 TB disks with 4k blocks.
> The server only has room for two disks. I do have an esata connector,
> though, and a suitable external cabinet for connecting one extra disk.
>
> How would I go about migrating/expanding the root pool to the larger
> disks so I can then use the larger disks for booting?
>
> I have no extra machine to use.
>
>
>
> Skickat från min Android Mobil
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating 512 byte block zfs root pool to 4k disks

2012-06-15 Thread Hans J Albertsson
I suppose I must start by labelling the new disk properly, and give the s0 
partition to zpool, so the new zpool can be booted?




Skickat från min Android Mobil"Hung-Sheng Tsao Ph.D."  skrev:
one possible way:
1)break the mirror
2)install new hdd, format the HDD
3)create new zpool on new hdd with 4k block
4)create new BE  on the new pool with the old root pool as source (not sure  
which version of "solaris" or "openSolaris" ypu are using the procedure may be 
different depend on version"
5)activate the new BE
6)boot the new BE
7)destroy the old zpool
8)replace old HDD with new HDD
9)format the HDD
10)attach the HDD to the new root pool
regards



On 6/15/2012 8:14 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
I've got my root pool on a mirror on 2 512 byte blocksize disks.
I want to move the root pool to two 2 TB disks with 4k blocks.
The server only has room for two disks. I do have an esata connector, though, 
and a suitable external cabinet for connecting one extra disk.

How would I go about migrating/expanding the root pool to the larger disks so I 
can then use the larger disks for booting?

I have no extra machine to use.



Skickat från min Android Mobil


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[zfs-discuss] Migrating 512 byte block zfs root pool to 4k disks

2012-06-15 Thread Hans J Albertsson
I've got my root pool on a mirror on 2 512 byte blocksize disks.
I want to move the root pool to two 2 TB disks with 4k blocks.
The server only has room for two disks. I do have an esata connector, though, 
and a suitable external cabinet for connecting one extra disk.

How would I go about migrating/expanding the root pool to the larger disks so I 
can then use the larger disks for booting?

I have no extra machine to use.



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