Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2009-01-23 Thread Michael McKnight

--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Andrew Gabriel agabr...@opensolaris.org wrote:
If you were doing a rolling upgrade, I suspect the old disks are all
horribly out of sync with each other?

If that is the problem, then if the filesystem(s) have a snapshot that
existed when all the old disks were still online, I wonder if it might
be possible to roll them back to it by hand, so it looks like the 
current live filesystem? I don't know if this is possible with zdb.


What I meant is that I rolled the new drives in one at a time... replace a 
drive, let it resilver, replace another, let it resilver. etc.  The filesystems 
were not mounted at the time so the data should have been static.  The only 
thing that changed (from what I can tell) is the zpool labels.

Thanks,
Michael



  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2009-01-23 Thread Michael McKnight
Yes, but I can't export a pool that has never been imported.  These drives are 
no longer connected to their original system, and at this point, when I connect 
them to their original system, the results are the same.

Thanks,
Michael


--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wel...@excelsus.com wrote:
 
 Did you try zpool export 1st?


  
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[zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKnight
Hi everyone,

I have a serious problem and need some assistance.  I was doing a rolling 
upgrade of a raidz1, replacing 320GB drives with 1.5TB drives (ie. zpool 
replace).  I had replaced three of the drives and they had resilvered without 
errors and then I started on the fourth one.  It went downhill from there... 
while the fourth disk was resilvering, one of the others started throwing 
errors... lots and lots of them... to the point that the system is unusable. 

So, what I have are the four original 320GB drives that I would like to bring 
back online (on another server).  The pool was unmounted when I was replacing 
the old units with the new ones, so the data should have been static and I 
would expect to be able to bring the pool online on another server.

The problem I am running into is that the pool seems to be remembering the 
1.5TB drive names/locations/etc.  So, instead of using the new controller 
locations in the new system, the pool is insisting on looking for the old 
devices.  For example:

In the new system, the drives are c5d0 c5d1 c6d0 c6d1 -- in the old system, the 
drives were c2d0s0 c3d0s0 c4d0s0 c5d0s0.  

I have tried everything I can come up with to get the pool to import, but it 
just wont do it.  I need to know how to get zpool to simply import them as I 
specify the new devices.  When I try it, it complains that the pool doesn't 
exist... that's because it wont let me import it!  I'm stuck and I need help.

I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works.

I have a lot of data on those drives that I couldn't back up because I don't 
have a backup system big enough to handle it all.  I'd really like to salvage 
that data if at all possible.  I was trusting ZFS to handle it and until now, 
it did an excellent job!

It seems pretty simple... shouldn't each drive be labeled as part of a pool?  
When I do a zdb -l, I see the labels and pool identifiers, but I also see the 
old device names hard-coded into the label.  How can I get zpool to simply see 
that all four drives are members of the same pool and build new device 
locations?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to you all in advance,
-Michael
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Michael McKnight wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have a serious problem and need some assistance.  I was doing a rolling 
 upgrade of a raidz1, replacing 320GB drives with 1.5TB drives (ie. zpool 
 replace).  I had replaced three of the drives and they had resilvered without 
 errors and then I started on the fourth one.  It went downhill from there... 
 while the fourth disk was resilvering, one of the others started throwing 
 errors... lots and lots of them... to the point that the system is unusable. 

 So, what I have are the four original 320GB drives that I would like to bring 
 back online (on another server).  The pool was unmounted when I was replacing 
 the old units with the new ones, so the data should have been static and I 
 would expect to be able to bring the pool online on another server.

 The problem I am running into is that the pool seems to be remembering the 
 1.5TB drive names/locations/etc.  So, instead of using the new controller 
 locations in the new system, the pool is insisting on looking for the old 
 devices.  For example:

 In the new system, the drives are c5d0 c5d1 c6d0 c6d1 -- in the old system, 
 the drives were c2d0s0 c3d0s0 c4d0s0 c5d0s0.  

 I have tried everything I can come up with to get the pool to import, but it 
 just wont do it.  I need to know how to get zpool to simply import them as I 
 specify the new devices.  When I try it, it complains that the pool doesn't 
 exist... that's because it wont let me import it!  I'm stuck and I need help.

 I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works.

 I have a lot of data on those drives that I couldn't back up because I don't 
 have a backup system big enough to handle it all.  I'd really like to salvage 
 that data if at all possible.  I was trusting ZFS to handle it and until now, 
 it did an excellent job!

 It seems pretty simple... shouldn't each drive be labeled as part of a pool?  
 When I do a zdb -l, I see the labels and pool identifiers, but I also see the 
 old device names hard-coded into the label.  How can I get zpool to simply 
 see that all four drives are members of the same pool and build new device 
 locations?
   

If you were doing a rolling upgrade, I suspect the old disks are all 
horribly out of sync with each other?

If that is the problem, then if the filesystem(s) have a snapshot that 
existed when all the old disks were still online, I wonder if it might 
be possible to roll them back to it by hand, so it looks like the 
current live filesystem? I don't know if this is possible with zdb.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Weldon S Godfrey 3



If memory serves me right, sometime around 12:34am, Michael McKnight told me:


 I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works.


Did you try zpool export 1st?
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wel...@excelsus.comwrote:




 If memory serves me right, sometime around 12:34am, Michael McKnight told
 me:

 
  I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works.
 

 Did you try zpool export 1st?



He did say he was doing zpool replace commands when it went downhill





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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
I'm not an expert but for what it's worth-

1. Try the original system. It might be a fluke/bad cable or anything else 
intermittent. I've seen it happen here. If so, your pool may be alright.

2. For the (defunct) originals, I'd say we'd need to take a look into the 
sources to find if something needs to be done. AFAIK, device paths aren't 
hard-coded. ZFS doesn't care where the disks are as long as it finds them and 
they contain the right label.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKnight
 I'm not an expert but for what it's worth-
 
 1. Try the original system. It might be a fluke/bad
 cable or anything else intermittent. I've seen it
 happen here. If so, your pool may be alright.
 
 2. For the (defunct) originals, I'd say we'd need to
 take a look into the sources to find if something
 needs to be done. AFAIK, device paths aren't
 hard-coded. ZFS doesn't care where the disks are as
 long as it finds them and they contain the right
 label.

I tried the original system and it had much the same reaction.  The cables, 
etc. are all fine.  The new system sees the drives and they check out in 
drive-testing utilities.  I don't think we're dealing with a hardware issue.

I agree that the problem is most likely the labels.  When I look at zdb -l 
output for each of the drives, I can see that they all show the correct pool 
name and numeric identifier.  I think the problem is that they have children 
defined that no longer exist -- at least not at the locations indicated in the 
label.

The question is... how do update the labels so the pool members are all 
reflected with their new identifications?

Thanks,
Michael
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