Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov

2011-10-13 13:27, Darren J Moffat пишет:

On 10/13/11 09:27, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat
darr...@opensolaris.org wrote:
Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in 
Solaris

?


Hi Darren. Is it available for Solaris 10? I just installed Solaris 10
u10 and couldn't find it.


No it is not.
Is there a reference on how to get/install this functionality on 
Solaris 10?


No because it doesn't exist on Solaris 10.



Well, just for the sake of completeness: most of our systems are using
zfs-auto-snap service, including Solaris 10 systems datiing from Sol10u6.
Installation of relevant packages from SXCE (ranging snv_117-snv_130)
was trivial, but some script-patching was in order. I think, replacement
of the ksh interpreter to ksh93.

I haven't used the GUI part and I guess my experience relates to the
script-based zfs-auto-snap (before it was remade into current binary
form, or so I read). We kind of got stuck with SXCE systems which
still just work finely ;)

The point is, even if unsupported (may be a problem in OP's case)
it is likely that one or another version of zfs-auto-snap or TimeSlider
can be made to work in Sol10 with little effort.

HTH,
//Jim


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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
 2011-10-13 13:27, Darren J Moffat пишет:

 On 10/13/11 09:27, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat
 darr...@opensolaris.org wrote:

 Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in
 Solaris
 ?

 Hi Darren. Is it available for Solaris 10? I just installed Solaris 10
 u10 and couldn't find it.

 No it is not.

 Is there a reference on how to get/install this functionality on Solaris
 10?

 No because it doesn't exist on Solaris 10.


 Well, just for the sake of completeness: most of our systems are using
 zfs-auto-snap service, including Solaris 10 systems datiing from Sol10u6.
 Installation of relevant packages from SXCE (ranging snv_117-snv_130)
 was trivial, but some script-patching was in order. I think, replacement
 of the ksh interpreter to ksh93.

Yes, I remembered reading about that.


 I haven't used the GUI part and I guess my experience relates to the
 script-based zfs-auto-snap (before it was remade into current binary
 form, or so I read). We kind of got stuck with SXCE systems which
 still just work finely ;)

 The point is, even if unsupported (may be a problem in OP's case)
 it is likely that one or another version of zfs-auto-snap or TimeSlider
 can be made to work in Sol10 with little effort.

To be honest, if it's just to get it work, I'd just make my own. Or
running SE with a solaris 10 zone inside it, with SE managing
time-slider/replication and S10 zone running the application.

But for this particular case support is essential. That's why I
mentioned earlier if I can't get a supported solution for this setup
(with a reasonable price), storage-based replication would have to do.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov

2011-10-19 17:54, Fajar A. Nugraha пишет:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Jim Klimovjimkli...@cos.ru  wrote:
Well, just for the sake of completeness: most of our systems are 
using zfs-auto-snap service, including Solaris 10 systems datiing 
from Sol10u6. Installation of relevant packages from SXCE (ranging 
snv_117-snv_130) was trivial, but some script-patching was in order. 
I think, replacement of the ksh interpreter to ksh93. 

Yes, I remembered reading about that.



Actually, I revised the systems: the scripts are kept in original form, 
but those sol10 servers where ksh93 was absent, got a symlink:


/usr/bin/ksh93 - ../dt/bin/dtksh

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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-13 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat
darr...@opensolaris.org wrote:
 Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in Solaris
 ?

Hi Darren. Is it available for Solaris 10? I just installed Solaris 10
u10 and couldn't find it.


 There is a GUI for configuration of the snapshots

the screenshots that I can find all refer to opensolaris

 and time-slider can be
 configured to do a 'zfs send' or 'rsync'.  The GUI doesn't have the ability
 to set the 'zfs recv' command but that is set one-time in the SMF service
 properties.

Is there a reference on how to get/install this functionality on Solaris 10?

Thanks,

Fajar
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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-13 Thread Darren J Moffat

On 10/13/11 09:27, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat
darr...@opensolaris.org  wrote:

Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in Solaris
?


Hi Darren. Is it available for Solaris 10? I just installed Solaris 10
u10 and couldn't find it.


No it is not.


There is a GUI for configuration of the snapshots


the screenshots that I can find all refer to opensolaris


and time-slider can be
configured to do a 'zfs send' or 'rsync'.  The GUI doesn't have the ability
to set the 'zfs recv' command but that is set one-time in the SMF service
properties.


Is there a reference on how to get/install this functionality on Solaris 10?


No because it doesn't exist on Solaris 10.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in 
Solaris ?


There is a GUI for configuration of the snapshots and time-slider can be 
configured to do a 'zfs send' or 'rsync'.  The GUI doesn't have the 
ability to set the 'zfs recv' command but that is set one-time in the 
SMF service properties.


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[zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-09-30 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
Hi,

Does anyone know a good commercial zfs-based storage replication
software that runs on Solaris (i.e. not an appliance, not another OS
based on solaris)?
Kinda like Amanda, but for replication (not backup).

Thanks,

Fajar
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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-09-30 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
 From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
 boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Fajar A. Nugraha
 
 Does anyone know a good commercial zfs-based storage replication
 software that runs on Solaris (i.e. not an appliance, not another OS
 based on solaris)?
 Kinda like Amanda, but for replication (not backup).

Please define replication, not backup?  To me, your question is unclear what
you want to accomplish.  What don't you like about zfs send | zfs receive?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-09-30 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote:
 From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
 boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Fajar A. Nugraha

 Does anyone know a good commercial zfs-based storage replication
 software that runs on Solaris (i.e. not an appliance, not another OS
 based on solaris)?
 Kinda like Amanda, but for replication (not backup).

 Please define replication, not backup?  To me, your question is unclear what
 you want to accomplish.  What don't you like about zfs send | zfs receive?

Basically I need something that does zfs send | zfs receive, plus
GUI/web interface to configure stuff (e.g. which fs to backup,
schedule, etc.), support, and a price tag.

Believe it or not the last two requirement are actually important
(don't ask :P ), and are the main reasons why I can't use automated
send - receive scripts already available from the internet.

CMIIW, Amanda can use zfs send but it only store the resulting
stream somewhere, while the requirement for this one is that the send
stream must be received on a different server (e.g. DR site) and be
accessible there.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-09-30 Thread Michael Sullivan
Maybe I'm missing something here, but Amanda has a whole bunch of bells and 
whistles, and scans the filesystem to determine what should be backed up.  Way 
overkill for this task I think.

Seems to me like zfs send blah | ssh replicatehost zfs receive …  more than 
meets the requirement when combined with just plain old crontab.

If it's a graphical interface you're looking for, I'm sure someone has hacked 
together somethings in TCL/Tk pr Perl/TK as an interface to cron which you 
could probably hack to have construct your particular crontab entry.

Just a thought,

Mike

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On 30 Sep 11, at 07:33 , Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
 opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com wrote:
 From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
 boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Fajar A. Nugraha
 
 Does anyone know a good commercial zfs-based storage replication
 software that runs on Solaris (i.e. not an appliance, not another OS
 based on solaris)?
 Kinda like Amanda, but for replication (not backup).
 
 Please define replication, not backup?  To me, your question is unclear what
 you want to accomplish.  What don't you like about zfs send | zfs receive?
 
 Basically I need something that does zfs send | zfs receive, plus
 GUI/web interface to configure stuff (e.g. which fs to backup,
 schedule, etc.), support, and a price tag.
 
 Believe it or not the last two requirement are actually important
 (don't ask :P ), and are the main reasons why I can't use automated
 send - receive scripts already available from the internet.
 
 CMIIW, Amanda can use zfs send but it only store the resulting
 stream somewhere, while the requirement for this one is that the send
 stream must be received on a different server (e.g. DR site) and be
 accessible there.
 
 -- 
 Fajar
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