RE: [ZION] Apocrypha
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Apocrypha SNIP Question: The Bible is mostly translated correctly and contains both truth and error. We can benefit from reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit as a guide, and we cannot benefit from reading the Bible without that guide. Everything that is said here of the Apocrypha could as well be said about the whole Bible, so what is the point in making a distinction? I certainly think one can benefit from reading the Bible with or without guidance of the Holy Spirit. Ditto the Book of Mormon. Ditto the Apocrypha. But, then I'm one who believes people can benefit from reading most things the reading is accompanied by thinking. RBS // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Apocrypha
There are differences in why the Lord canonized the Bible, but not the Apocrypha. First, the Bible is more complete doctrinally, while the Apocrypha does not always concentrate on doctrine or God. Secondly, historically, we aren't completely sure who wrote the books of the Apocrypha (same trouble with a few Bible books, like Hebrews and Revelation). Finally, God need not command in all things. We are to seek out much through the Holy Ghost. Why don't we canonize more General Conference talks? Because there is no need to do so. If the members learn to listen to the Spirit, they will gain the truth, and toss out the errors. As for apocryphal books (not necessarily in the Apocrypha, but early writings) that probably should be in the Bible: Gospel of Thomas, Odes of Solomon, the Testaments of the 12 Patriarchs. K'aya K'ama Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/ Freedom Forever // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Apocrypha
From: Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Vol.1, APOCRYPHA AND PSEUDEPIGRAPHA When Joseph Smith was engaged in translating the Old Testament (see Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible [JST]), he came to the Apocrypha and sought divine counsel on what to do with it. The revelation given in response to his prayer informed him that the Apocrypha contains both truth and error, but was mostly translated correctly (DC 91:1). Although he was counseled not to translate the Apocrypha, the revelation states that any who read those writings with the Holy Spirit as a guide shall obtain benefit therefrom; without the Holy Ghost, a man cannot be benefited spiritually by reading the Apocrypha (DC 91:5-6). --- Question: The Bible is mostly translated correctly and contains both truth and error. We can benefit from reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit as a guide, and we cannot benefit from reading the Bible without that guide. Everything that is said here of the Apocrypha could as well be said about the whole Bible, so what is the point in making a distinction? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding. (President Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^