[ZION] Weather report for Alberta
Off-topic for the list as a whole, but I'm not sure how John will be accessing his email while on the road. Here's the latest 4-day weather report for Alberta. It's unseasonably warm, with daytime highs several degrees above freezing and overnight lows ranging from -3oC in the south to -13oC in the central and northern regions. Mostly sunny Sunday through Thursday, with some cloudy periods. All highways report clear and dry conditions with excellent visibility. Edmonton weather for Thursday: variable cloud, high +2oC, low -9oC, winds westerly at 20 kph, sunrise 08:03, sunset 16:33 (which means by the time you get to Spruce Grove it will probably be dark). Jasper is reporting mixed snow and rain with high +9oC, low -5 (that's for Monday -- I don't have a 4-day forecast for Jasper). Prince George is reporting rain and above-freezing highs and lows. Looks like clear sailing! -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
[ZION] Moma, Dont' let your clumsy kids grow up to be research chemists (was: R
So why do we live in a right-handed universe (iirc -- the only organic chemistry I had was in 2nd year high school chemistry...oh, and I almost forgot, a semester of bonehead chem in university)? Are there left-handed versions of even simple organics like, say, dextrose? I do remember impressing friends in Gr. XII a few times, though. I had a small bedroom in my Dad and step-Mom's basement, and next to it was my Dad's study/studio (he's a writer and artist), which came complete with stove and kitchenette, as the basement had been fitted out as a rentable suite. Anyway, that was back in the days that most of you weren't around for, la grande dactylographe! The manual typewriter! And one of my chores was to clean the keys from time to time. First step was to dab them with this putty-like substance, and then you gently washed them with 1,1,1 trichlorethane, which has a common name (it's a toluene, and is dangerous to use in confined spaces and near open flames, so you probably can't buy it anymore -- too many kids tried to sniff it, I guess, and it would be even better, if that's the operative word, than airplane glue). Anyway, that's the only half-fancy organic compound whose name I memorized (well, along with deoxyribonucleic acid, but I digress . Another one of my chores (this was before my Dad was a member) once, was to clean out the area behind the sink in the study, and an adjacent cupboard area. My Dad had tried to brew his own beer (which is legal here, as is wine-making for personal consumption) and a couple of the bottles (stubbies for those Canadians who remember that old icon of Canadian beer) had burst and turned the whole place into a mess. I had to literally chisel one of the beer bottles out. My Own Attempt at Being a Sorcer's Apprentice This chapter comes after an earlier one, when I was about 12 or 13 and dropped what I originally thought was a blown-out match (which I'd been using to light a my Bunsen burner) into what I thought was a large empty tin (2 Imperial gallons, iirc)). The boom almost made me give up my own private chemical research career. could have gone into yes, I am dating myself once again. I don't think you can get the fancy chemical sets anymore -- most of the substnces are now tightly controlled Interestingly enough, in those days, while I didn't like second-hand smoke (and my step-Mom made him confine his smoking to the study anyway), I remember watching him roll his own, using a gadget that's kind of difficult to describe. However, you put a long (about a foot) piece of paper, gummed along one edge, onto the bottom of this machine, and then you'd add Player's tobacco from a can (that's a Canadian brand -- one of the stronger ones that gives old tar a new meaning in the Navy. Then you'd pull this lever, and a rubber sheet would turn this into a foot-long, perfectly rolled (unlike yer typical rolling of British Columbia's finest). It had cut marks along the lenth of the tube-making part, which indicated where to cut the tube while it was held fast. My Dad used an ordinary razor blade (the old Gillete style double-edged, thin blades you put into your shaver) I was fascinated by the device and once tried to make a candy cigarette once by putting those teensy-weensy little candy balls (the best-known variety came in silver and was hard, like a micro-ball bearing. It was just a goofy experiment (I was either 15 or 16 at the time), and lifted one outYup, all these little silver 'ball bearings spilled out across the study floor. I tried sweeping them but they just got knocked about I got to the step where -- that is, until it occurred to me to get a vacuum to clean them up. I was exploring. By the time I was Grade VIII I had narrowed my interests to mathematics or astronony. I ended up in mathematics. Officially my degree's is in computer science, but when I took it, besides classes which were actualknown as BSc Stephen Beecroft wrote: -Marc- Oh, NOW you've opened a can of worms. Ronn -- a short lecture on chemical nomenclature if you don't mind. What *do* those numbers before a chemical compound's name mean? I'm not Ronn, nor to I play him on TV, but I did take organic chemistry a couple of decades ago at BYU. Organic molecules are named by the main backbone or ring molecule -- in this case, xanthine -- with prefixes indicating the atoms or molecules/groups attached. Each atom or molecule/group named also has a number preceding it that identifies its position on the backbone molecule. If you have two of the same kind of group, you precede the identifier with di and give both numbers separated by a comma. Three of the same kind merits you a tri and all three numbers separated by commas, and so forth. Test Monday. Stephen // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html ///
Re: [ZION] Caffeine chemistry
¡muchos tacos! for the excellent primer -- this brings back memories of how orderly the nomenclature of organic chemistry is. It has always appealed to the obsessive-compulsive nature in me ;-) (but I'm serious about my thanks) Stephen Beecroft wrote: Quick recap and primer for all interested parties (or should I say, both interested parties): Xanthine (ZAN-theen) is purine with oxygens bonded in the 2 and 6 positions, that is, 2,6-dihydroxypurine. Ronn also referred to this as 2,6-dioxopurine and as purine-2,6-dione, apparently following alternate (I would guess older) nomenclatures. Structurally, it's actually a fairly small, simple molecule. See http://www.serva.de/products/data/38420.01.shtml for details. If you take xanthine and bond methyl groups (CH3) to it, you get a family of substances called (unsurprisingly) methylxanthines. If you bond three methyls in the 1, 3, and 7 positions, you get 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine, also called caffeine. This is the best-known of the methylxanthines, which share some similar physiological properties. If you bond only two methyl groups instead of three, you get a related but slightly different molecule. Exactly which molecule you get depends on where you put the methyls: If you bond the two methyls to the 3 and 7 positions, you get theobromine, which Ronn tells us is the primary methylxanthine found in chocolate. Thus, when people tell you that chocolate doesn't contain any caffeine, they are technically correct, though wrong in spirit. Theobromine differs chemically from caffeine only by a single methyl group, and its stimulant properties are not dissimilar. If you bond the two methyls to the 1 and 3 positions, you get theophylline (1,3-dimethylxanthine), which Ronn tells us is more common in tea than in coffee or chocolate. It's also an asthma treatment because it's a bronchodilator, something Stacy apparently realizes. Ronn tells us that regular old caffeine can be used in a pinch as a bronchodilator, as well. If you bond the two methyls to the 1 and 7 positions, which was Ronn's missing family member, you get paraxanthine, or 1,7-dimethylxanthine. Unsurprisingly, this is a major caffeine metabolite, which is to say that this is one of the chemicals produced by your body when it breaks down caffeine. It's also identified as an adenosine receptor ligand, which means it ties itself to certain receptor sites. By the way, that's typically how psychoactive drugs work -- they attach themselves to various receptor sites. Does this mean that paraxanthine is a psychoactive drug? I don't know; maybe. Perhaps other xanthines or methylxanthines act as adenosine receptor ligands. Maybe that's ultimately how caffeine produces its effects on the brain. In any case, now you have some idea about caffeine (found in coffee) and three closely related chemicals, theobromine (found in chocolate), theophylline (found in tea), and paraxanthine (found in Starbucks customers). Stephen -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)
Oh, don't tell that to Quebeckers. It's their boisson national. Ronn Blankenship wrote: At 12:12 AM 11/17/02, Rick Mathis wrote: At 07:56 PM 11/16/2002 -0800, Stacy wrote: It shocked me to realize that coffee has theophylline in it. That's considered a medicine by doctors. I think it dilates the bronchials. Interesting. For what it's worth, I've used a couple of cans of Pepsi when I didn't have access to one of my inhalors to treat an asthma attack. It may be all in my head, but it seemed to work quite well. Tasted better than albuterol, too. How could you tell? If you like Pepsi, clearly you have no taste . . . ;-b --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Coffee, Tea or Eternity
Jon Spencer wrote: Not correct (so much nicer than saying Wrong! :-). There was a letter sent out some time ago clarifying that caffeine is not prohibited by the WoW. And I believe that the point of President Hinckley not contradicting Wallace on the caffeine question was to not get sidetracked. I presume he felt it wasn't important. Much better put. This was my impression when watching the show. He was merely acknowledging the question in order not to disturb the flow of the conversation. There are lots of silly apostateisms that creep into our religion. One is you can't drink any caffeinated beverages. Another is that you have to pass the Sacrament tray with your right hand. Some claim that you can't do anything that might be considered physical exercise on Sunday (like taking a walk with your family). And there are many, many more. Perfect the Saints. Proclaim the Gospel. Redeem the Dead. If you're addicted to caffeine, don't drink it, and don't eat chocolate. Leave the nitpicking to someone else. (And just to be clear, I am not speaking to Marc on this. I'm just pontificating. :-) Jon -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] Coffee, Tea or Eternity
There are lots of silly apostateisms that creep into our religion. One is you can't drink any caffeinated beverages. Another is that you have to pass the Sacrament tray with your right hand. Some claim that you can't do anything that might be considered physical exercise on Sunday (like taking a walk with your family). And there are many, many more. Chuckle. :-)) I don't let these things bother me. I drink my coke when I want and just live my life. What others think is their own sorry problem although I have virtually quit drinking cokes to avoid getting fat--or should I say--unwanted extra weight. No offense to those who may be overweight. ;-) Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Happy Sabbath
Show your Savior how much you love Him! I was thinking today of how awful it must have been for Jesus to have sweat blood from his brows. His face sweat as it were great drops of blood falling to the ground and his anxiety levels were off the scale. The burden was so heavy upon him that he sufferd both body and spirit in a manner none of us could ever do. I marvel that he did this for me and assume that he saw me in full reality. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Coffee, Tea or Eternity
President Hinckley, twice, say on national television that we do not drink soda with caffeine, I heard it too, but he is not speaking for me or my house. I have no problem with cokes. Everyone must make their own choice and go with it. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Something Else To Ponder
Stacy Smith wrote: --- I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping someone to feel better, also lessens perception of personal revelation. Am I right? --- We can experience genuine spiritual manifestations that are a result of the power and direct influence of God. Many make misguided efforts to attain an elevated level of spiritual sensitivity by counterfeit methods. But according to the teachings of prophets and leaders of the Church, our level of spiritual communion with Heavenly Father depends upon personal righteousness, and observance of the laws of the Gospel. --- Mij Ebaboc // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Social Mormons
I had no idea that amino acids were left-handed. Then again, I had no idea they even had hands! Then again, how do we really know they are left-handed? Perhaps they have their backs to us, and thus making them right-handed after all? You know, it's kind of like building a house. When you are working on one side of the house, and the nails are pointing the wrong way, you don't throw them away. They are for the other side of the house Then again, I've cut this board three times, and it is still too short! K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Ronn: Short answer: Most life on Earth uses left-handed amino acids Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Hogwarts and all
Richard Harris is a wonderful actor. I remember him in A Man Called Horse, written by an acquaintance of mine who lived in Missoula MT, and lectured to my high school literature class on her books. He was a great Dumbledore, but I think he would be easier to replace than the guy who plays Hagrid. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Gary: Question: my wife heard a rumor that the actor who played the big gentle giant guy that Harry hooks onto (the one who wanted a dragon in the first movie) has recently died in an accident. Anyone know if this is true? I hope not, as his character truly helps round out the movies. Stephen: Not as far as I know. Richard Harris, the actor who played Dumbledore, died a few weeks ago. (By the way -- and I don't think this qualifies as any sort of spoiler -- they should have made Hagrid about twice as big. Ah, well.) Stephen Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Does America need to be destroyed in its current form?
I believe the US government will fall eventually from bloat and corruption. It may be that an outside attack will help it fall, but only if the inside is rotten. I don't have a problem with a state having an active government. Those who don't like it can always move. But a federal government should only step in when absolutely necessary (like during war or a depression), and then step back afterward. I think there are many good people still in government. However, the rotten ones and radical ones have taken over the lecterns and pulpits, so there is no true discourse today. I believe this to be true on both sides of the aisle. I'm a strong believer in what George Washington warned us about in his farewell speech: to beware political parties, and to only vote for individuals, not political platforms. Because we now vote for parties, people vote without thinking. They allow the party to move the populace, rather than the people moving the agenda. One can be led like a dumb ox, or one can lead the dumb ox. But the 10% rule comes in here. One must be 10% smarter than the ox, in order to move it. Political parties dumb down. They move from issues and ideas to just defending the turf against the other guy. We've seen this from both major parties here in the US. It is hoped that people are righteous enough to be able to maintain our government and freedoms without a major wake up. However, if our government were to topple, I guarantee you that it wouldn't automatically be replaced by another one based on our Constitution. Many groups will jump in, telling how antiquated our Constitution is, and that it should be replaced with a modern government (pick your poison: fascist, communist, socialist, etc) that seems to be democratic, but is in reality a totalitarian regime. We see this today in Iraq, where all the people just happened to vote for Saddam Hussein, who just happened to be running unopposed, and where people can't actually cast a secret ballot, so will have great incentive to vote for him. Democracy/Republican government becomes a formality, part of the ritual. It is like the whited sepulchres that Jesus warned the Pharisees of becoming. They were pretty on the outside, but the inside was full of dried up bones. How easy will it be for the elders of Israel to step in and save the Constitution when it hangs by a thread? Depends on how righteous the Elders of Israel are, and how soon they step in to save the Constitution. It may very well be that the Church members must go through severe trials and purgings prior to being ready to establish a righteous government again. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Stacy: What is your current belief concerning the United States? Does it need to be destroyed in its present form--White House, Congressional buildings, Pentagon, etc., as Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden think or should it remain with its current governmental structural architecture? I know that the Constitutional government should remain, but there could be a radical change in administration if all our forms of government become much smaller due to the House and Senate leadership being destroyed by these characters. Will the future Congress be holding sessions in the parking lot? Stacy. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Does America Need To Be Destroyed As It Is In Its Current Form?
Well, I'm guessing that Canada will eventually evolve into one. ;-) Europe and Asia seem to be going into a globalization realm, so I think their nation states will eventually just be states/provinces in a giant world-nation. This I fear, though. It is too easy for a Hitler to step into power, and with non armies to oppose, would wield power throughout the world. Benevolently when possible, ruthlessly when necessary. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: To complicate the question, one might also ask what is the future of nation-states in general? Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
