RE: [ZION] Test

2003-06-03 Thread Larry Jackson

Till:

That plane wouldn't have been Air France would it?

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No, but I can't tell you who it was, sorry.

Larry



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Re: [PMX:#] RE: [ZION] Test

2003-06-03 Thread Elmer L Fairbank
At 16:35 6/2/2003 +, St Larry wrote:

Till:

That plane wouldn't have been Air France would it?

___

No, but I can't tell you who it was, sorry.


I remember almost 40 years ago watching planes touch down at the Montreal 
airport and all the Air France birds would come bouncing in just like you 
described.

Till

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RE: [ZION] Test

2003-06-03 Thread Larry Jackson

Till:

That plane wouldn't have been Air France would it?

___

No, but I can't tell you who it was, sorry.

Till:

I remember almost 40 years ago watching planes touch down 
at the Montreal airport and all the Air France birds would 
come bouncing in just like you described.

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Wouldn't surprise me.  It doesn't take much piloting training 
to get where you can really bounce 'em in.  [grin]

Larry




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Re: [ZION] God's love

2003-06-03 Thread Jon Spencer
Hmmm ... exactly what does it mean for God to love all sinners (i.e.,
everyone living today, at a minimum), but he does not love them
unconditionally?

Either He does not love all of them because of some condition, or He loves
all of them.  You can't have it both ways.

Of course, it may be true that He does not love all of His children, but
that is not correct either.  I myself think that Jim, if I understood what
he wrote, is correct.  There is more than one kind of love, just as there is
more than one kind of heaven.  It would only make sense that there would
be a higher kind of love for someone who did his best to live up to all of
God's laws, and brought thousands of God's children unto repentance, than
there would be for an anti-Christ.

So, although the fact that God loves me is undoubtedly wonderful, it also
mast be faint praise.

Jon

- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [ZION] God's love


 Yes, he loves all sinners--just not unconditionally.

 Stacy.

 At 11:28 PM 05/28/2003 -0400, you wrote:

 I can attest that, based upon my own personal experiences and
confirmations
 and outright manifestations of God, that God does indeed love me, a
sinner.
 
 Jon
 
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 From: Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:20 PM
 Subject: [ZION] God's love
 
 
   Some on the list have mentioned in the past that God does not love
   sinners, and tried to use recent statements on unconditional love to
   prove their point.
  
   I'd like to quote Elder Neal Maxwell, perhaps the current scriptural
   scholar among the apostles, and definitely the most eloquent and
prolific
   writer amongst them. In his book These things shall give thee
   experience, he states the following concerning God's perfect love:
  
   God loves us all-- saint and sinner alike -- with a perfect and
   everlasting love. We have His love, if not His approval. It is our
love
   for Him that remains to be developed. 
  
   IOW, God loves all, but His approval is dependent upon our obedience
and
   faithfulness.
  
  
   K'aya K'ama,
  
   Gerald (Gary) Smith
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Re: [ZION] God's love

2003-06-03 Thread Jon Spencer
Paul Osborne wrote:
 Anyway, God loves me, and that's final.

And I love you too, Paul.  That makes two!

Noj

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Re: [ZION] Test

2003-06-03 Thread Jon Spencer
So long as you are not the next person to go up in that plane!

Jon

Steven Montgomery wrote:

 Well, any landing you can walk away from is a good one.

 --
 Steven Montgomery

 At 09:14 AM 5/31/2003, you wrote:

 No bounce at this end.  You message landed with a
 solid thud.  But, not to waste a perfectly good email:
 
 Many years ago at an international airport, I was in an
 airplane behind a British Airways airliner.  We were both
 waiting for an airliner from another country to land before
 we were to depart.
 
 The other plane came in, hit solidly on the painted numbers
 at the end of the runway, and bounced several feet back up
 into the air.  The second time he hit the runway it was nearly
 as hard, and he bounced again.  The third time, with some
 wing wobbling, the plane finally settled down and the pilot
 slowed to safely taxi off the runway.
 
 Before the tower could clear the next plane for takeoff,
 a distinctly British voice came on the air and said,
 Well, that's one way of doing it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Larry Jackson



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Re: [ZION] God's love

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Osborne

On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:59:49 -0400 Jon Spencer
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 Paul Osborne wrote:
  Anyway, God loves me, and that's final.
 
 And I love you too, Paul.  That makes two!
 
 Noj


Thanks. It's always nice to hear that and especially my Zion friends. :-)

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[ZION] Obtaining favor with God

2003-06-03 Thread Jim Cobabe

When a man has offered in sacrifice all that he has for the truth's 
sake, not even withholding his life, and believing before God that he 
has been called to make this sacrifice, because he seeks to do his will, 
he does know most assuredly that God does and will accept his sacrifice 
and offering, and that he has not, nor will not seek his face in vain. 
Under these circumstances, then, he can obtain the faith necessary for 
him to lay hold on eternal life.

It is in vain for persons to fancy to themselves that they are heirs 
with those, or can be heirs with them who have offered their all in 
sacrifice, and by this means obtained faith in God, and favour with him 
so as to obtain eternal life, unless they in like manner offer unto him 
the same sacrifice, and through that offering obtain the knowledge that 
they are accepted of him.

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[ZION] Eric Rudolph

2003-06-03 Thread Gerald Smith
They've had big evidence on Rudolph in the B'ham bombing since early on.
That was also when he was driven into the NC woods. At that time, they
also began looking at him for possible attacks on other places in the
Southeast, which led to him as a suspect on the 96 Atlanta Olympics.
You'll note that they had recused everyone else in that bombing,
including Richard Jewel, prior to Rudolph being a suspect.  

I am very certain that they have the right person for several of these
bombings, if not all. Interesting, since he's been forced to hide in NC
woods, there haven't been any more bombings.



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Grampa Bill comments:
   The accused, alleged, purported, suspected bomber of the Atlanta 
Olympics
   You think the Feds are as certain of his guilt as they were of 
Richard Jewel's? I say, let's see what kind of evidence they have. If 
they had solid evidence against Rudolph, why did they go after Jewel 
with such a vengeance?
From what I've heard, the evidence is strongest in the Birmingham 
Abortion Clinic bombing. At least there, his vehicle was seen in the 
neighborhood. As for the three bombings in Georgia, another Abortion 
Clinic, a Gay Bar, and the Olympic Park, I 'spect the Bureau is just 
trying to close cases.
I'll try to keep an open mind on this though it is a certainty that 
the media... even Fox... has already convicted him.
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah
 

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