Hmmm ... exactly what does it mean for God to love all sinners (i.e., everyone living today, at a minimum), but he does not love them unconditionally?
Either He does not love all of them because of some condition, or He loves all of them. You can't have it both ways. Of course, it may be true that He does not love all of His children, but that is not correct either. I myself think that Jim, if I understood what he wrote, is correct. There is more than one kind of love, just as there is more than one kind of "heaven." It would only make sense that there would be a higher kind of love for someone who did his best to live up to all of God's laws, and brought thousands of God's children unto repentance, than there would be for an anti-Christ. So, although the fact that God loves me is undoubtedly wonderful, it also mast be faint praise. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] God's love > Yes, he loves all sinners--just not unconditionally. > > Stacy. > > At 11:28 PM 05/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >I can attest that, based upon my own personal experiences and confirmations > >and outright manifestations of God, that God does indeed love me, a sinner. > > > >Jon > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gerald Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:20 PM > >Subject: [ZION] God's love > > > > > > > Some on the list have mentioned in the past that God does not love > > > sinners, and tried to use recent statements on "unconditional" love to > > > prove their point. > > > > > > I'd like to quote Elder Neal Maxwell, perhaps the current scriptural > > > scholar among the apostles, and definitely the most eloquent and prolific > > > writer amongst them. In his book "These things shall give thee > > > experience", he states the following concerning God's "perfect love": > > > > > > "God loves us all-- saint and sinner alike -- with a perfect and > > > everlasting love. We have His love, if not His approval. It is our love > > > for Him that remains to be developed. " > > > > > > IOW, God loves all, but His approval is dependent upon our obedience and > > > faithfulness. > > > > > > > > > K'aya K'ama, > > > > > > Gerald (Gary) Smith > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html LDS Evidences, > > > Family History, Food Storage, etc. > > > > > > > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / > >// > > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > > > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > > > > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / > >/ > > > > > > > > > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// > >/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > >/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 03/10/2003 > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / > > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^================================================================
