[zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the
expected usage one might put a zone to.

My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6
machines.

1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1 Opensolaris (2009.6 still using b111)

I've been mainly a linux user until recently but use 3 winXP machines
for video and photography processing since I work largely with all Adobe
tools. I'm more experienced with admin type chores on linux..

I'm using the Opensol machine for most backup type jobs across the
lan.  Or in cases where the backup may originate on a windows machine
such as with `Retrospect', the opensol machine is the recipient only.

I wondered if there would be any advantage to creating a zone where
only the backup chores were handled, nothing else.

I can't be sure if that is even the kind of thing one would do with a
zone, but it seems kind of likely it would be handy to have an area
where nothing but backup chores were in order.

Another zone I've thought about would be for nameservice to my home
lan.  Maybe a mail server might be another zone usage.

I hoped to hear from a few experienced `zones' users about such a usage.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Dr Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao)

May be use vbox or xen in opensolarris

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From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com
Sent: 14/7/'09,  7:35

After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the
expected usage one might put a zone to.

My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6
machines.

1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1 Opensolaris (2009.6 still using b111)

I've been mainly a linux user until recently but use 3 winXP machines
for video and photography processing since I work largely with all Adobe
tools. I'm more experienced with admin type chores on linux..

I'm using the Opensol machine for most backup type jobs across the
lan.  Or in cases where the backup may originate on a windows machine
such as with `Retrospect', the opensol machine is the recipient only.

I wondered if there would be any advantage to creating a zone where
only the backup chores were handled, nothing else.

I can't be sure if that is even the kind of thing one would do with a
zone, but it seems kind of likely it would be handy to have an area
where nothing but backup chores were in order.

Another zone I've thought about would be for nameservice to my home
lan.  Maybe a mail server might be another zone usage.

I hoped to hear from a few experienced `zones' users about such a usage.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Alexander Skwar
Why?

What he plans can be done easily using NGZ (non-global zones).
An NGZ also adds just a little bit of overhead (if any at all) to the
system - unlike vbox.

What would be the gain of using a more complex technology like
vbox/xen in comparison to NGZs?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 13:42, Dr Hung-Sheng Tsao (LaoTsao) 
hung-sheng.t...@sun.com wrote:

 May be use vbox or xen in opensolarris


 --- Original message ---

 From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com
 Sent: 14/7/'09,  7:35

 After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the
 expected usage one might put a zone to.

 My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6
 machines.

 1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1 Opensolaris (2009.6 still using b111)

 I've been mainly a linux user until recently but use 3 winXP machines
 for video and photography processing since I work largely with all Adobe
 tools. I'm more experienced with admin type chores on linux..

 I'm using the Opensol machine for most backup type jobs across the
 lan.  Or in cases where the backup may originate on a windows machine
 such as with `Retrospect', the opensol machine is the recipient only.

 I wondered if there would be any advantage to creating a zone where
 only the backup chores were handled, nothing else.

 I can't be sure if that is even the kind of thing one would do with a
 zone, but it seems kind of likely it would be handy to have an area
 where nothing but backup chores were in order.

 Another zone I've thought about would be for nameservice to my home
 lan.  Maybe a mail server might be another zone usage.

 I hoped to hear from a few experienced `zones' users about such a usage.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 After reading only a little about zones.. I doubt I really get the
 expected usage one might put a zone to.

 My case is very homespun just a home lan with at most... 6
 machines.

 1 vista(laptop) 3 winXP 1 linux 1 Opensolaris (2009.6 still using b111)

 I've been mainly a linux user until recently but use 3 winXP machines
 for video and photography processing since I work largely with all Adobe
 tools. I'm more experienced with admin type chores on linux..

 I'm using the Opensol machine for most backup type jobs across the
 lan.  Or in cases where the backup may originate on a windows machine
 such as with `Retrospect', the opensol machine is the recipient only.

 I wondered if there would be any advantage to creating a zone where
 only the backup chores were handled, nothing else.

 I can't be sure if that is even the kind of thing one would do with a
 zone, but it seems kind of likely it would be handy to have an area
 where nothing but backup chores were in order.

 Another zone I've thought about would be for nameservice to my home
 lan.  Maybe a mail server might be another zone usage.

 I hoped to hear from a few experienced `zones' users about such a usage.

Zones are handy when you need an added degree of isolation.  The time
that I could see such a need for typical home usage would be if you
have an internet-facing web server or similar.  I would put the web
server in a zone and have my router set up to forward http packets to
that zone.  If someone breaks through the web server's security and
gets shell access, they get shell access only to the things that are
on the web server.  Presumably the web server zone doesn't have access
to sensitive things, like your tax records.

In a business situation, there are several other use cases.

Longer term, management of zones (e.g. applying software updates)
takes extra effort.  As such, I wouldn't break things up into separate
zones any more than makes sense to satisfy your needs.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Zone in down state.

2009-07-14 Thread Ketan
This issue is resolved .. the problem was the lofi .. i had mounted the iso 
image and the moment i removed the lofi from the global zone i was able to boot 
the zone back. DO not know whats the reason for this but it did solve my problem
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Re: [zones-discuss] Using zones for simple usage

2009-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Alexander Skwar alexanders.mailinglists+nos...@gmail.com writes:

 What he plans can be done easily using NGZ (non-global zones).
 An NGZ also adds just a little bit of overhead (if any at all) to the
 system - unlike vbox.

So you're saying a zone to handle all backup work is a sensible way to
go at it... 

Can you tell me what would be the advantage of creating a zone for
that as against just doing thru the normal os... no zones.

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