Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1 for moving forward, and I was wondering if you have an idea of when you'd have a draft of the proposal. It would be good to iterate over it perhaps.-FlavioOn Oct 20, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:It's been a few days, any thoughts? Acceptable? I'd like to keep moving theball forward. Thanks.PatrickOn Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, 明珠刘 redis...@gmail.com wrote:+12010/10/14 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.orgIn March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, andHadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop:Original discussionhttp://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbinI originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that wewerenot "ready" to move to tlp status given our small contributor base andlimited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit thatdiscussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard toattract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributionscomein. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of theseconcerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned aboutthis issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status.A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it'sconnection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've beenassured(and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status;pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. TheHadoopZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage.Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentiallyoperating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC membershavelittle or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult forthemto monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to governourselves and better set our direction.I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email withyour thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, oncediscussion settles.Regards,Patrick flaviojunqueiraresearch scientistf...@yahoo-inc.comdirect +34 93-183-8828avinguda diagonal 177, 8th floor, barcelona, 08018, esphone (408) 349 3300fax (408) 349 3301
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Looks good, please do call a vote. On 21 October 2010 09:29, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Here's a draft board resolution (not a vote, just discussion). It lists all current committers (except as noted in the next paragraph) as the initial members of the project management committee (PMC) and myself as the initial chair. Notice that I have left Andrew off the PMC as he has not been active with the project for over two years. I believe we should continue to include him on the committer roles subsequent to moving to tlp, however as he has not been an active member of the community for such a long period we would not include him on the PMC at this time. If others feel differently let me know, I'm willing to include him if the people feel differently. LMK if this looks good to you and I'll call for an official vote on this list (then we'll be ready to call a vote on the hadoop pmc). Regards, Patrick X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Patrick Hunt be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Flavio Junqueira f...@yahoo-inc.comwrote: +1 for moving forward, and I was wondering if you have an idea of when you'd have a draft of the proposal. It would be good to iterate over it perhaps. -Flavio On Oct 20, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: It's been a few days, any thoughts? Acceptable? I'd like to keep moving the ball forward. Thanks. Patrick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, 明珠刘 redis...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2010/10/14 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Ack, I missed Henry in the list, sorry! In my defense I copied this: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html one more try (same as before except for adding henry to the pmc): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org * Henry Robinson he...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Henry Robinson he...@cloudera.com wrote: Looks good, please do call a vote. On 21 October 2010 09:29, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Here's a draft board resolution (not a vote, just discussion). It lists all current committers (except as noted in the next paragraph) as the initial members of the project management committee (PMC) and myself as the initial chair. Notice that I have left Andrew off the PMC as he has not been active with the project for over two years. I believe we should continue to include him on the committer roles subsequent to moving to tlp, however as he has not been an active member of the community for such a long period we would not include him on the PMC at this time. If others feel differently let me know, I'm willing to include him if the people feel differently. LMK if this looks good to you and I'll call for an official vote on this list (then we'll be ready to call a vote on the hadoop pmc). Regards, Patrick X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Ha, I may just have excluded myself from eligibility due to my inability to read :) On 21 October 2010 13:28, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Ack, I missed Henry in the list, sorry! In my defense I copied this: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html one more try (same as before except for adding henry to the pmc): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org * Henry Robinson he...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Henry Robinson he...@cloudera.com wrote: Looks good, please do call a vote. On 21 October 2010 09:29, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Here's a draft board resolution (not a vote, just discussion). It lists all current committers (except as noted in the next paragraph) as the initial members of the project management committee (PMC) and myself as the initial chair. Notice that I have left Andrew off the PMC as he has not been active with the project for over two years. I believe we should continue to include him on the committer roles subsequent to moving to tlp, however as he has not been an active member of the community for such a long period we would not include him on the PMC at this time. If others feel differently let me know, I'm willing to include him if the people feel differently. LMK if this looks good to you and I'll call for an official vote on this list (then we'll be ready to call a vote on the hadoop pmc). Regards, Patrick X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to I think you meant Patrick Hunt ? :) Other than that it looks good. Thanks mahadev On 10/21/10 1:28 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Ack, I missed Henry in the list, sorry! In my defense I copied this: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html one more try (same as before except for adding henry to the pmc): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org * Henry Robinson he...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Henry Robinson he...@cloudera.com wrote: Looks good, please do call a vote. On 21 October 2010 09:29, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Here's a draft board resolution (not a vote, just discussion). It lists all current committers (except as noted in the next paragraph) as the initial members of the project management committee (PMC) and myself as the initial chair. Notice that I have left Andrew off the PMC as he has not been active with the project for over two years. I believe we should continue to include him on the committer roles subsequent to moving to tlp, however as he has not been an active member of the community for such a long period we would not include him on the PMC at this time. If others feel differently let me know, I'm willing to include him if the people feel differently. LMK if this looks good to you and I'll call for an official vote on this list (then we'll be ready to call a vote on the hadoop pmc). Regards, Patrick X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Damn, not sure how that happened. Had it right originally, one undo too many? weird. Give this one a try (henry added, chair back as expected): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org * Henry Robinson he...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Patrick Hunt be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. 2010/10/21 Mahadev Konar maha...@yahoo-inc.com NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to I think you meant Patrick Hunt ? :) Other than that it looks good. Thanks mahadev On 10/21/10 1:28 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Ack, I missed Henry in the list, sorry! In my defense I copied this: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html one more try (same as before except for adding henry to the pmc): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konar
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
i think we want to be responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to distributed system coordination. ben On 10/21/2010 01:43 PM, Mahadev Konar wrote: NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to I think you meant Patrick Hunt ? :) Other than that it looks good. Thanks mahadev On 10/21/10 1:28 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Ack, I missed Henry in the list, sorry! In my defense I copied this: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html one more try (same as before except for adding henry to the pmc): X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to data serialization; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache ZooKeeper Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache ZooKeeper Project: * Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org * Flavio Junqueira f...@apache.org * Mahadev Konarmaha...@apache.org * Benjamin Reedbr...@apache.org * Henry Robinson he...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matt Massie be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache ZooKeeper, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache ZooKeeper PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache ZooKeeper Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache ZooKeeper Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Hadoop ZooKeeper sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Hadoop Project are hereafter discharged. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Henry Robinson he...@cloudera.com wrote: Looks good, please do call a vote. On 21 October 2010 09:29, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: Here's a draft board resolution (not a vote, just discussion). It lists all current committers (except as noted in the next paragraph) as the initial members of the project management committee (PMC) and myself as the initial chair. Notice that I have left Andrew off the PMC as he has not been active with the project for over two years. I believe we should continue to include him on the committer roles subsequent to moving to tlp, however as he has not been an active member of the community for such a long period we would not include him on the PMC at this time. If others feel differently let me know, I'm willing to include him if the people feel differently. LMK if this looks good to you and I'll call for an official vote on this list (then we'll be ready to call a vote on the hadoop pmc). Regards, Patrick X. Establish the Apache ZooKeeper Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to data serialization for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache ZooKeeper Project, be and
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
It's been a few days, any thoughts? Acceptable? I'd like to keep moving the ball forward. Thanks. Patrick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, 明珠刘 redis...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2010/10/14 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: It's been a few days, any thoughts? Acceptable? I'd like to keep moving the ball forward. Thanks. Patrick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, 明珠刘 redis...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2010/10/14 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1, thanks for following through with the protocol. On 20 October 2010 11:02, Vishal K vishalm...@gmail.com wrote: +1. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: It's been a few days, any thoughts? Acceptable? I'd like to keep moving the ball forward. Thanks. Patrick On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, 明珠刘 redis...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2010/10/14 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick -- Henry Robinson Software Engineer Cloudera 415-994-6679
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Good to see we are in agreement on this. Thanks everyone who voted. Looks like this is unanimous at this point. I will start the proceedings in the Hadoop PMC to make ZooKeeper a TLP. Patrick On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Flavio Junqueira f...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1. Frankly, I don't see concretes benefits for the community with ZooKeeper becoming a TLP, but perhaps it will become clear over time. Now it is certainly cool to have our own top-level domain: http://zookeeper.apache.org/ rocks! -Flavio On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: +1 ben On 10/14/2010 11:47 AM, Henry Robinson wrote: +1, I agree that we've addressed most outstanding concerns, we're ready for TLP. Henry On 14 October 2010 13:29, Mahadev Konarmaha...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1 for moving to TLP. Thanks for starting the vote Pat. mahadev On 10/13/10 2:10 PM, Patrick Huntph...@apache.org wrote: In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick *flavio* *junqueira* research scientist f...@yahoo-inc.com direct +34 93-183-8828 avinguda diagonal 177, 8th floor, barcelona, 08018, es phone (408) 349 3300fax (408) 349 3301
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1 for moving to TLP. Thanks for starting the vote Pat. mahadev On 10/13/10 2:10 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1, I agree that we've addressed most outstanding concerns, we're ready for TLP. Henry On 14 October 2010 13:29, Mahadev Konar maha...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1 for moving to TLP. Thanks for starting the vote Pat. mahadev On 10/13/10 2:10 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick -- Henry Robinson Software Engineer Cloudera 415-994-6679
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1 ben On 10/14/2010 11:47 AM, Henry Robinson wrote: +1, I agree that we've addressed most outstanding concerns, we're ready for TLP. Henry On 14 October 2010 13:29, Mahadev Konarmaha...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: +1 for moving to TLP. Thanks for starting the vote Pat. mahadev On 10/13/10 2:10 PM, Patrick Huntph...@apache.org wrote: In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
+1. Frankly, I don't see concretes benefits for the community with ZooKeeper becoming a TLP, but perhaps it will become clear over time. Now it is certainly cool to have our own top-level domain: http://zookeeper.apache.org/ rocks!-FlavioOn Oct 14, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: +1benOn 10/14/2010 11:47 AM, Henry Robinson wrote:+1,I agree that we've addressed most outstanding concerns, we're ready forTLP.HenryOn 14 October 2010 13:29, Mahadev Konarmaha...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:+1 for moving to TLP.Thanks for starting the vote Pat.mahadevOn 10/13/10 2:10 PM, "Patrick Hunt"ph...@apache.org wrote:In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, andHadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop:Original discussionhttp://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbinI originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that wewerenot "ready" to move to tlp status given our small contributor base andlimited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit thatdiscussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard toattract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributionscomein. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of theseconcerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned aboutthis issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status.A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it'sconnection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've beenassured(and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status;pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. TheHadoopZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage.Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentiallyoperating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC membershavelittle or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult forthemto monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to governourselves and better set our direction.I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email withyour thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, oncediscussion settles.Regards,Patrick flaviojunqueiraresearch scientistf...@yahoo-inc.comdirect +34 93-183-8828avinguda diagonal 177, 8th floor, barcelona, 08018, esphone (408) 349 3300fax (408) 349 3301
Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
Re: Restarting discussion on ZooKeeper as a TLP
Excited to see ZooKeeper graduate to TLP. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: In March of this year we discussed a request from the Apache Board, and Hadoop PMC, that we become a TLP rather than a subproject of Hadoop: Original discussion http://markmail.org/thread/42cobkpzlgotcbin I originally voted against this move, my primary concern being that we were not ready to move to tlp status given our small contributor base and limited contributor diversity. However I'd now like to revisit that discussion/decision. Since that time the team has been working hard to attract new contributors, and we've seen significant new contributions come in. There has also been feedback from board/pmc addressing many of these concerns (both on the list and in private). I am now less concerned about this issue and don't see it as a blocker for us to move to TLP status. A second concern was that by becoming a TLP the project would lose it's connection with Hadoop, a big source of new users for us. I've been assured (and you can see with the other projects that have moved to tlp status; pig/hive/hbase/etc...) that this connection will be maintained. The Hadoop ZooKeeper tab for example will redirect to our new homepage. Other Apache members also pointed out to me that we are essentially operating as a TLP within the Hadoop PMC. Most of the other PMC members have little or no experience with ZooKeeper and this makes it difficult for them to monitor and advise us. By moving to TLP status we'll be able to govern ourselves and better set our direction. I believe we are ready to become a TLP. Please respond to this email with your thoughts and any issues. I will call a vote in a few days, once discussion settles. Regards, Patrick
