[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-01-17 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Jan 16 21:22:38 EST 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-January/008961.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Jan 16 21:24:08 EST 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-January/008962.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Jan 16 21:25:39 EST 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-January/008963.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Jan 16 21:27:09 EST 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-January/008964.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Jan 16 21:28:39 EST 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-January/008965.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Request typing (to get the xmlrpc layer discussion finished)

2008-01-17 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Ignas Mikalajunas wrote:
 In SchoolTool we used to start another server for REST to have a
 different Publication for REST calls.

I like that approach best too. I decided to use it in z3c.rest. A custom 
publication object allows you to implement an API that makes most sense for a 
RESTive API. I am still playing around to see what the best API is though.

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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tino Wildenhain

Hi Tim,

Tim Nash wrote:

The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
page is loaded into the same iframe.
If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
/a
In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
search results are loaded into the same tab.

BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to restrict
the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for adding
to a folder.
However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
overall administrator.
I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products displayed
to a user in the folder view of the zmi?


You can either sub-class if you want to explicitely specify the products
you want an objectmanagerish class to add - this would also nicely solve
all your ZMI problems since you could just skin your new pages as you
want. Or for the easy way have a look at the Security Tab, specifically
at the Add FooBar... stuff there.

Regards
Tino
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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tino Wildenhain

Andreas Jung wrote:
...
Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work e.g. 
when you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due 
the security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load 
stuff from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this 
limitation - ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.


Not only ugly but also a very security threat. Been there, seen a lot
important sites fell on their noses when it comes to CSS* and friends.
Better find another solution in such cases and allow users to disable
support for iframes for better security.

*) here: cross site scripting

Regards
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Re: [Zope] Plone middle aligns all colums

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


If you've introduced tables into the overall layout tds will not align  
the content to the top by default. You'd need to add td {vertical- 
align: top} to your css. I doubt the problem has to do with a setting  
in Plone or Zope. It would be easier to trouble shoot this if there  
were a link to the page in question.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Lars Hohmuth wrote:

I have a weird problem with our Plone 2.5.3 test site after a new  
designer took over. Plone now middle aligns the content column and  
the portlets in the slot on the center line, instead of on top.



  

---
| Left-slots|
||center
||
---

 -

We can sort of fix this by manually adding vertical-align: top; in  
the css. But my designer claims that he caused this by “changing a  
setting in Plone or the ZMI” and doesn’t remember which one.


Since it’s not on the production site, it’s not a life and death  
situation, but any suggestions what might cause this are gratefully  
accepted. Google and the Plone site search yielded pretty much  
nothing.


Thanks,
Lars Hohmuth

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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking  
the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,  
flexible and secure.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:


The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
page is loaded into the same iframe.
If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
/a
In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
search results are loaded into the same tab.

BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to restrict
the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for adding
to a folder.
However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
overall administrator.
I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products displayed
to a user in the folder view of the zmi?

Thanks,
Tim



On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:



Tim Nash wrote:

Jurian,
 While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside an iframe.
iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make ajax
calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.


IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to  
skip

such stuff and just replace any named container tag.


Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work  
e.g. when
you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due  
the
security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load  
stuff
from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this  
limitation -

ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.

Ansdeas

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[Zope] problem authenticating, even with emergency user

2008-01-17 Thread Ben Bartrum
Hello

A Zope site which is running fine, is refusing all authentication with the 
error below.   I have tried the emergency user and restarted Zope, but the 
emergency user gets the same error:


Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource. 
AttributeError
 Sorry, a site error occurred.
Traceback (innermost last): 
 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 188, in publish_module_standard
 Module Products.PlacelessTranslationService.PatchStringIO, line 51, in 
new_publish
 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 145, in publish
 Module Zope2.App.startup, line 222, in zpublisher_exception_hook
 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 105, in publish
 Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 446, in traverse
 Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 550, in old_validation
AttributeError: __getitem__ (Also, the following error occurred while 
attempting to render the standard error message, please see the event log for 
full details: getUserById)


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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Nash
Tom,
  Thanks but I think I am almost done. I have replaced the old style
calls with id=Find id=Properties etc. by access the sequence. Then
I added css code at the top of that same file (I think it is
manage_tabs.dtml, I'm not on that computer right now). So now I can
format the tabs anyway I want. There is also a little bit of
javascript that checks window.parent.location and applies changes to
the tabs if the user hasn't logged into the base directory.(only
available to the admin).

My thinking is that the zmi is battle tested. I'd rather use something
that many people have already been using. Plus, from my perspective,
it looks to me like the zmi just needs a little updating.
Incorporating style sheets, etc. and it can have a new life.

zope 3 people:  zope zmi, dtml are fast and really useful, please
don't toss these valuable tools!

On Jan 17, 2008 6:25 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking
 the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,
 flexible and secure.


 On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:

  The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
  is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
  page is loaded into the same iframe.
  If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
  a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
  http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
  /a
  In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
  search results are loaded into the same tab.
 
  BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
  to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to restrict
  the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for adding
  to a folder.
  However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
  overall administrator.
  I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
  won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products displayed
  to a user in the folder view of the zmi?
 
  Thanks,
  Tim
 
 
 
  On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  --On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
 
 
  Tim Nash wrote:
  Jurian,
   While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
  well inside an iframe.
  iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
  libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make ajax
  calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.
 
  IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to
  skip
  such stuff and just replace any named container tag.
 
  Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work
  e.g. when
  you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due
  the
  security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load
  stuff
  from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this
  limitation -
  ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.
 
  Ansdeas

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Re: [Zope] problem authenticating, even with emergency user

2008-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On Jan 17, 2008, at 14:39 , Ben Bartrum wrote:


Hello

A Zope site which is running fine, is refusing all authentication  
with the error below.   I have tried the emergency user and  
restarted Zope, but the emergency user gets the same error:



Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
AttributeError
Sorry, a site error occurred.
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 188, in publish_module_standard
Module Products.PlacelessTranslationService.PatchStringIO, line 51,  
in new_publish

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 145, in publish
Module Zope2.App.startup, line 222, in zpublisher_exception_hook
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 105, in publish
Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 446, in traverse
Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 550, in old_validation
AttributeError: __getitem__ (Also, the following error occurred  
while attempting to render the standard error message, please see  
the event log for full details: getUserById)


I bet you're running a non-standard user folder, and for some reason  
the user folder instance is broken. If you can't find why it is broken  
and the broken user folder is at the root of your Zope instance then  
fixing it would involve work in the debugger to delete the old one and  
create a new standard user folder.


jens



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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


There's nothing wrong with the ZMI. You're just try to hack into some  
kind of cms rather than just build one. Hiding a link with css is  
nasty hack and major security issue. While it may seem like what  
you're doing is an easy path to a quick cms, you're really just  
setting yourself up for a management nightmare. I'd recommend reading  
through (all of) this:


http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook


On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Tim Nash wrote:


Tom,
 Thanks but I think I am almost done. I have replaced the old style
calls with id=Find id=Properties etc. by access the sequence. Then
I added css code at the top of that same file (I think it is
manage_tabs.dtml, I'm not on that computer right now). So now I can
format the tabs anyway I want. There is also a little bit of
javascript that checks window.parent.location and applies changes to
the tabs if the user hasn't logged into the base directory.(only
available to the admin).

My thinking is that the zmi is battle tested. I'd rather use something
that many people have already been using. Plus, from my perspective,
it looks to me like the zmi just needs a little updating.
Incorporating style sheets, etc. and it can have a new life.

zope 3 people:  zope zmi, dtml are fast and really useful, please
don't toss these valuable tools!

On Jan 17, 2008 6:25 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking
the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,
flexible and secure.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:


The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
page is loaded into the same iframe.
If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
/a
In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
search results are loaded into the same tab.

BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to  
restrict
the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for  
adding

to a folder.
However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
overall administrator.
I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products  
displayed

to a user in the folder view of the zmi?

Thanks,
Tim



On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]



wrote:



Tim Nash wrote:

Jurian,
While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside an iframe.
iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make  
ajax

calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.


IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to
skip
such stuff and just replace any named container tag.


Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work
e.g. when
you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due
the
security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load
stuff
from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this
limitation -
ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.

Ansdeas



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Re: [Zope] BTreeFolder2 related

2008-01-17 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 17. Januar 2008 19:15:47 +0200 Dragos Chirila [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi,

What is the best way to delete all the objects inside an object
derived from BTreeFolder2?


manage_delObjects()

-aj

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[Zope] BTreeFolder2 related

2008-01-17 Thread Dragos Chirila
Hi,

What is the best way to delete all the objects inside an object
derived from BTreeFolder2?

Thank you very much,
Dragos

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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tim Nash
Tom,
  My modification of the css has nothing to do with security. It is to
simplify the UI for general users. And I use the zmi not because it is
easy but because it is proven.

If you have any specific examples of the management nightmare created
by using zmi as a cms I would very much appreciate hearing about them.
I think all websites are a management nightmare! (but it doesn't stop
facebook from becoming a platform, eh?)
:)

Thanks,
Tim



On Jan 17, 2008 8:36 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's nothing wrong with the ZMI. You're just try to hack into some
 kind of cms rather than just build one. Hiding a link with css is
 nasty hack and major security issue. While it may seem like what
 you're doing is an easy path to a quick cms, you're really just
 setting yourself up for a management nightmare. I'd recommend reading
 through (all of) this:

 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook



 On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Tim Nash wrote:

  Tom,
   Thanks but I think I am almost done. I have replaced the old style
  calls with id=Find id=Properties etc. by access the sequence. Then
  I added css code at the top of that same file (I think it is
  manage_tabs.dtml, I'm not on that computer right now). So now I can
  format the tabs anyway I want. There is also a little bit of
  javascript that checks window.parent.location and applies changes to
  the tabs if the user hasn't logged into the base directory.(only
  available to the admin).
 
  My thinking is that the zmi is battle tested. I'd rather use something
  that many people have already been using. Plus, from my perspective,
  it looks to me like the zmi just needs a little updating.
  Incorporating style sheets, etc. and it can have a new life.
 
  zope 3 people:  zope zmi, dtml are fast and really useful, please
  don't toss these valuable tools!
 
  On Jan 17, 2008 6:25 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking
  the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,
  flexible and secure.
 
 
  On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:
 
  The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
  is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
  page is loaded into the same iframe.
  If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
  a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
  http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
  /a
  In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
  search results are loaded into the same tab.
 
  BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
  to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to
  restrict
  the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for
  adding
  to a folder.
  However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
  overall administrator.
  I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
  won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products
  displayed
  to a user in the folder view of the zmi?
 
  Thanks,
  Tim
 
 
 
  On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  --On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
 
 
  Tim Nash wrote:
  Jurian,
  While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
  well inside an iframe.
  iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
  libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make
  ajax
  calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.
 
  IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to
  skip
  such stuff and just replace any named container tag.
 
  Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work
  e.g. when
  you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due
  the
  security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load
  stuff
  from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this
  limitation -
  ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.
 
  Ansdeas
 
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