Re: [Zope] Using Chinese Characters

2000-09-07 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-09-07 21:18 +0200, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Kelvin,

Kelvin Cheong wrote:
 
  i was wondering how i can use chinese characters with Zpe on Linux. does
  anyone know how? According to my "mild" research so far, i found out that
  Big5is a 2-byte code and is a part of ISO-10646/Unicode. It also seems to
  be the de-facto for traditional chinese characters. There're also Unicode
  CJK and GB. But GB is for China, which uses simplified chinese characters.
  And CJK includes both Big5 and GB.

classic zope is built on python 1.52 and does not naturally support
unicode.
But there is a light on the horizont:

http://www.zope.org/Members/htrd/wstring

I have a vision of everything working together for localizing and
internationalisation ;-)

It's good to finally see some Unicode support coming through. I'm a bit 
surprised that Guido didn't mandate Unicode support from the beginning, 
given that Python is a relative newcomer to the programming scene. I 
imagine Python 2 will have full Unicode support, right? Or is it already in 
Python 1.6?

Bad news is that Unicode is not good enough. It allows for about 64k 
characters, yet Chinese alone (Han ideographs) has over 75,000 (maybe a lot 
more, but that includes old, rare and uncommon characters). When will we 
see support for UCS (Universal Character System, ISO 10646) which uses (up 
to) 32 bit (31 bit?) characters. As far as I know, at present the only UCS 
characters currently defined are those defined by Unicode (about 40,000 of 
them), but we should be supporting it now in readiness for the future.

Food for thought.

Zai jian!  (Too bad email is plain ASCII or I could use the proper characters!)


David Trudgett




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[Zope] Localtime logging

2000-08-31 Thread David Trudgett

Does anyone happen to know if Zope can be made to log in local time instead 
of UTC?

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope-dev] Looping through a folder's contents...

2000-08-21 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-08-20 23:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would like to loop through the contents of a folder, and the
contents of the subfolders of that folder.  I know I can do this to a
singular level by doing something like:

dtml-in "subfolder.objectValues('Folder')"
dtml-var title
/dtml-in

Should give me a list of the titles of all the subfolders of the
folder called "subfolder".  So, once I get there, how do I loop
through the subobjects of each of those folders?

In other words, I have a subfolder inside of the folder called
"subfolder" and I want to see the contents of that folder.  How do I
do it?
--

I've used code similar to the following in an external method before:

thisitem = self.getFirstChild()
while thisitem is not None:
 if thisitem.meta_type == 'DTML Document':
 ...
 thisitem = thisitem.getNextSibling()


I haven't tried to do it in DTML.

David Trudgett




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Re: [Zope] Hotfixes: serious suggestion

2000-08-15 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-08-15 10:18 +0200, "Frank Tegtmeyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The current format is Hotfix_08_09_2000, my proposed format is
  Hotfix_2000-08-09.
This is the ISO 8601 format (abbreviated form).

Reasoning:

First of all Zope is a product of a north american company but is used
worldwide. Not all countries use the american form of dates, so it would
be nice to have a standardized one (in my opinion this applies also to the
standard date functions in Zope).

The reasons for establishing ISO 8601 apply here as well:
- ordering of month and day are different in Europe and America,
   this leads to difficulties interpreting date values
- ISO dates are sortable by string functions
- ISO dates are easy to parse by humans AND programs

Opinions?

I agree. If everyone standardised on ISO 8601 in written date and time 
formats, the world would be a saner place. Writing MM-DD-YY(YY) is just 
silly in my opinion, no matter how you like to say it out loud. It may have 
been acceptable in times past (like when the Internet was not nearly 
globally ubiquitous), but these days it's just an anachronism (as is 
DD-MM-YY, because it is easily mistaken for MM-DD-YY). Likewise for 12 hour 
time. There's only one 14:00 in the day, and that's the way I like it! ;-)

David Trudgett



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[Zope] OT: UTC

2000-08-15 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-08-16 01:54 +, Curtis Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, when are you joining me in working in UTC?  I mean, really.  We deal with
people globally on a daily basis.  Why bother with all this timezone nonsens?
  So I get up and out of bed at 2100, get to work at a fresh and early 2300,

You get up late! Myself, I'm up and at 'em at a brisk 2000 (in theory).  :-)

Cheers.

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Re: [Zope] Removing tracebacks from error message

2000-08-14 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-08-14 13:33 +0100, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martijn Pieters wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 03:30:00PM -1000, David Trudgett wrote:
   I thought I solved this problem a while ago, but if so I can't remember
   how. I have a custom error page in Zope (2.1.6), but Zope wants to 
 put the
   traceback information into an HTML comment at the foot of the page 
 (which I
   don't want to have there). I set BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=0 and exported it in the
   "start" script, and also removed the "-D" from the command line that
   launches Z2.py. I thought that was all there was to it, but there must be
   something else that I've forgotten.
 
  Just removing the -D flag should do it. It may be that just having
  'BOBO_DEBUG_MODE' defined (whatever the value you set it to) triggers debug
  mode, so defining 'BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=0' may well set Debug Mode on :)

I think what David means is that, when not in debug mode, Zope appends
the error in HTML comments to the end of the HTML stream. There was a
thread on this not long ago and, IIRC, this was found to be hard coded
into Zope.

OK, looks like some Zope hacking to do...  :-(



My own view is that Zope shouldn't stick any error messages into or on
the end of error reports. At best, it's bad HTML, at worst it's a
security risk (the python traceback includes the full paths of the files
on the machine...) If you want an error report/traceback, you should
specifically include it in standard_error_message.

Agreed. It's just plain dumb (not to mention embarrassingly unprofessional) 
to put content after the /html tag. My main concern, though, is the 
security aspect. The less potential crackers know, the better. At the very 
least, a traceback like that says: "Hey, this is a Zope site." To which the 
wiley cracker replies, "Great. Now lets try all the known Zope 
vulnerabilities." Obviously, security by obscurity is not a good idea, but 
obscurity is not a bad idea, either :-)

Apart from all of that, there is the issue of content being added that 
wasn't requested. That's a bit impolite, I think.



Has anyone put this in the collector, or is it more suited to
dev.zope.org?

I'd classify it as a bug for the collector, myself...  I think there's also 
a related issue of a hard-coded error message page in the guts of Zope 
somewhere, because the user-defined error page is not used in every case...


cheers,

Chris


Sorry for the whinge, guys and gals! Zope is still great!


Bye for now.

David Trudgett



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[Zope] Speeding up Zope by disabling logging of hits

2000-08-10 Thread David Trudgett

I'm using zope behind a front-end server and don't require any logging of 
hits. Is there a way to disable Zserver hit logging to increase speed and 
decrease disk utilisation? (I suppose I can send output to /dev/null, but 
that doesn't stop the logging code from being executed, and I would also 
lose error logging.) Even better would be the ability to disable logging 
based on IP address of the requester.

Thanks.

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Re: [Zope] gvib InterBase DA, undefined symbol crypt

2000-07-21 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-07-21 00:40 -0400, Jeff Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, David Trudgett wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  After having successfully installed the gvib InterBase DA on a test 
 machine
  running Red Hat Linux 6.1, I'm not having the same luck on the production
  box running RH 6.0. Here's what happens:
 
  $ python
import gvib
  Traceback (innermost last):
 File "stdin", line 1, in ?
 File "/usr/local/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/Products/gvibDA/gvib/gvib.py",
  line 46, in ?
   import gvibBase
  ImportError: /usr/lib/libgds.so: undefined symbol: crypt

I'm perplexed. The only time I've run into this problem was when I forgot
to link with libcrypt. Deja didn't turn up anything useful, either.

I hate to point out the obvious, but, by default the Linux section in
Setup.in reads:

   #
   # Use this on Linux.
   #
   #gvibBase gvibBase.c -D$(GVDEF) -I$(PYDIR) -L$(IBLIB)  -lgds -lcrypt

Note the comment. You need to comment the Solaris line, and uncomment the
Linux line. In reality, the link with libcrypt is the only thing
differentiating the two.

Unfortunately, the compile will still succeed without -lcrypt being
specified. You won't see the problem until you try to import the module,
as seen above.

  so is there anyone here who can suggest how I might fix this? (By the way,
  the compile went through without a problem, and there was a -lcrypt on the
  appropriate Setup.in line).

One other thought. The first time you run:

   make -f Makefile.pre.in boot

a Setup file is created. If you then change Setup.in, you need to delete
Setup and re-execute the above line. Otherwise, the changes won't be
reflected.

Jeff hit the nail on the head with that one. I've replied to him personally 
and thanked him. What I had done was inadvertently run the make -f before I 
had edited the Setup.in file. I then edited the file as I should have and 
re-ran make -f without realising I had to delete the file called "Setup". 
Ignorance is a curse. Anyway, this little tip will no doubt help someone 
else in the future.

David Trudgett


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[Zope] gvib InterBase DA, undefined symbol crypt

2000-07-20 Thread David Trudgett

Hi all,

After having successfully installed the gvib InterBase DA on a test machine 
running Red Hat Linux 6.1, I'm not having the same luck on the production 
box running RH 6.0. Here's what happens:

$ python
  import gvib
Traceback (innermost last):
   File "stdin", line 1, in ?
   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/Products/gvibDA/gvib/gvib.py", 
line 46, in ?
 import gvibBase
ImportError: /usr/lib/libgds.so: undefined symbol: crypt


I've tried mucking around with updating libraries and so on, but so far 
without success. No doubt this problem has happened to someone else before, 
so is there anyone here who can suggest how I might fix this? (By the way, 
the compile went through without a problem, and there was a -lcrypt on the 
appropriate Setup.in line).

I've also emailed the author of the package, but I thought it's probably 
more likely a generic setup problem, rather than anything to do with the 
product itself.


Thanks.

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] newbie questions

2000-07-06 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-07-06 22:23 -0400, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To back up the ZODB, just copy the Data.fs file in the var directory.
You may safely do this while Zope is running.  To restore, reinstall
Zope and all the products you're using and copy the Data.fs into the var
directory.

I don't understand this advice. Couldn't the file change while being read? 
Wouldn't a better way be to pack the database and use the Data.fs.old file 
as the backup?

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] Stability - can you give us some advice?

2000-07-06 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-07-07 01:50 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I'm new to this list (to Zope too!)and I'm really impressed with its traffic.
This show us that this project is in active development.
In our company we are currently working to create a Web site with lots
of dynamic content, database access, webmail, etc..  so we decided to try 
Zope.
Although it's lack of documentation ( this would not be fair, with a search
engine we can dig out lots of useful info from the web) we experienced a
very fast development cycle. Now we're concerned about its stability. We
are almost finishing the first stage of project and some times Zope
hangs. It was  working ok, and then, all of a sudden, it just stops answers
requests. Last time it happend we changed a DTML Method to a DTML Document
and it worked again (if you like i'll try to tell you exactly what was 
happenning).
So, I'd like some advice to make it more stable. ( or tell me what i might
be doing wrong)

Funny you should mention that. We just had a similar thing happen to us 
this morning. We have an installation of Zope 2.1.6 running on Red Hat 
Linux 6.0 on an old 486/66 machine (a prototype serving some intranet 
content). We aren't doing any database connections on it (through Zope, 
that is), but we are running Squishdot (which is the main application in 
terms of usage on this particular machine). Zope is running behind Apache 
1.3.9, and I noticed that multiple instances of Zope.cgi started up to 
service incoming requests, but apparently Zope wasn't responding. I just 
restarted Apache and everything was fine again.

Is this a known problem with Zope that has been addressed in 2.2?

Thanks.

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] Re: Traversal of ZODB

2000-07-04 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-07-04 20:32 +0100, Steve Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, David Trudgett wrote:
  I wonder if anyone has a sample Python script that traverses the ZODB to
  query or perform arbitrary operations on the objects found in it? My
  present requirement is to write a script that goes through and does some
  automated updating of several dozen DTML documents.

Hi David,

I just posted something similar to Zope-Dev:

   http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2000-July/005744.html

Thanks for that. I actually worked out a fairly similar hack myself, which 
only did one folder (which was OK for the particular task that I wanted it 
to do). Your recursive method has no doubt saved me quite a bit of time in 
generalising it. There are still a couple of little question marks in my 
mind, though. But before I get to them, I'll just post a sample of what I 
came up with (minus most of the gory details of the actual processing I 
wanted to do:



def processDTML(self):
 """Process DTML documents within a folder."""
 import re
 myregex = re.compile(r"(H1.*?/H1)")
 thisdoc = self.getFirstChild()
 while thisdoc is not None:
 if hasattr(thisdoc, 'meta_type'):
 if thisdoc.meta_type == 'DTML Document':
 # Do processing stuff here
 doctext = thisdoc.raw
 doctext = myregex.sub(r"\1\n\nH2Profile/H2\n", doctext)
 thisdoc.raw = doctext
 thisdoc = thisdoc.getNextSibling()
 return 'Complete!'



Just for easy reference, this was what you came up with:




import re

def convert_dtml(self):
 """Convert DTML Methods and DTML Documents from old syntax to
new syntax.
Warning: recursive!
This assumes that DTML Method and DTML Document haven't been
subclassed.
 """
 print 'convert_dtml: id=%s' % self.title_and_id()
 if hasattr(self, 'meta_type') and \
   (self.meta_type == 'DTML Method' or \
self.meta_type == 'DTML Document'):
 convert(self)

 # should this be "isPrincipiaFolderish"?
 if hasattr(self, 'isAnObjectManager') and self.isAnObjectManager:
 for v in self.objectValues():
 v.convert_dtml()

_convert_regex =
re.compile('''!--#(/?)(([^"-]+?|"[^"]*?"|'[^']*?'|-[^-])+?)--''')

def convert(dtml_item):
 print 'converting...'
 title = dtml_item.title
# like document_src, but doesn't require RESPONSE
 data = dtml_item.PrincipiaSearchSource()
 print 'data'
 print data
 newdata = _convert_regex.sub('\g1dtml-\g2', data)
 print 'newdata'
 print newdata
 print 'end'
 dtml_item.manage_edit(newdata, title)




Some questions I have in my mind:

1. I used "raw" and you used "PrincipiaSearchSource()" . The reason I used 
raw was because I wanted to be sure that what I got wasn't munged in any 
way, and that what I put back reflects what was actually there before.

2. You used the "manage_edit()" method, whereas I just assigned to the 
"raw" property. My way seems to work OK, but I'm not sure how yours works: 
I assume it brings up an edit page in the browser for each document?

3. I don't like resorting to testing the "meta_type" for a particular 
string value. As you noted in your code, it doesn't allow for subclassing, 
so it's not fully general.

4. I was surprised that the import statement (not to mention 
"re.compile()") could be put outside of the method definition, considering 
that Zope's external methods grab on to individual methods within a Python 
module.



David Trudgett

  


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[Zope] Traversal of ZODB

2000-06-29 Thread David Trudgett

I wonder if anyone has a sample Python script that traverses the ZODB to 
query or perform arbitrary operations on the objects found in it? My 
present requirement is to write a script that goes through and does some 
automated updating of several dozen DTML documents.

Thanks.

David Trudgett


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[Zope] Search Interface

2000-06-29 Thread David Trudgett

I'm having some trouble setting up a search interface into a ZCatalog. I 
want to create a text index on the contents of my DTML documents, but I 
can't seem to get it to work. It search on title just fine. I think my 
problem is that I don't know how to create the right index, and what to 
call it (how the body or text of a DTML document is referenced). Can anyone 
enlighten me about this? I might be going blind, but I haven't come across 
anything in the documentation so far that answers my question. I'm about to 
resort to reading the Zope source! (which I think I will need to do sooner 
or later anyway, to get a better understanding of how it all works).

Thanks for any assistance.

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] (no subject)

2000-06-06 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-06-06 09:44 -0300, you wrote:

You both had the same problem I have now: make Oracle 8i (in my case, Oracle
8.1.6) work with Zope.
DCOracle is working well (Makefile attached to this message) but ZOracle
isn't running yet.

We are posting e-mails about it on the list for a while and nobody answered,
so I must think that nobody on Zope universe is using Oracle 8i (neither NT
nor Linux Oracle 8i client).
There isn't any detailed documentation about it. The ZOracle installation
instructions are simple but, in my opinion, incomplete.

To solve this situation, I'm making a call to everybody that uses or wants
to use Zope with Oracle 8i. My goal is finally document the installation
process and make it work properly.

Please contact me ASAP.

Hello Alexandre. We intend to use Oracle 8i (8.1.5) with Zope (on another 
machine). We haven't done anything about it yet, though. That will 
hopefully change in the near future. I'd be interested to know what 
problems you had...

David Trudgett


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Re: [Zope] Using FTP to connect to Zope server from (g)VIM

2000-06-04 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-06-02 15:51 +0100, Phil Harris wrote:

Hi all,

My intellect was piqued recently by a discussion on the list about editors
for Zope etc.

I remember some people saynig that VIM was good, to which my response was,
'Yeah but there's no FTP built in'.

Someone then responded with a few scripts to do it.

Well I thought they were a bit cumbersome, so I wrote my own.

That's great, Phil! I think I'll find those scripts very handy. Thanks.

David Trudgett


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[Zope] KeyError since installing Squishdot 0.4.0

2000-06-01 Thread David Trudgett

Since I installed Squishdot 0.4.0 (yesterday) on Zope 2.1.6 (under Red Hat 
Linux) I've been getting KeyErrors when clicking on an article's topic 
image, which uses an URL like this:

http://myserver/Zope/testsquish/search?subject=Squishdotop=articles

In Squishdot 0.3.2, the errors didn't occur.

I applied the fixes mentioned by Michel Pelletier in his (Zope-dev] message 
("The Mysterious Key Error and Unrelated Searc Result Bug"), and updated 
the ZCatalog. This didn't fix the problem.

Here is the stack trace:

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 214, in 
publish_module
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in publish
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 202, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: ElementWithAttributes)
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 165, in publish
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: search)
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in 
call_object
 (Object: search)
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/Products/Squishdot/Squishdot.py, line 
954, in search
 (Object: ElementWithAttributes)
   File /data/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py, line 760, in 
__getitem__
KeyError: (see above)


Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks.

David Trudgett





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Re: [Zope] Zope Chat

2000-05-30 Thread David Trudgett

At 03:40 2000-05-30 -0600, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:

Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl
Methods, and more.  Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on
irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's that in UTC?

Thanks.

David Trudgett


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