[Zope] Aethera server and functionalities + ZOPE
Dear Mr Shawn, THank you for your recent mail. As I said i a recent message, in order to move my institution towards open-source products and related services, I need the appropriate tools and services. For me, the KDE applications, aethera and kivio, you are developping, are such tools we ( = the community + I) have long expected. I need a groupware solution (that can use our LDAP directory) closely linked to shared calendars, shared folders, connection to PIM (IPAQ and Palm V), email lists ... As the ICT manager, I have a rather strong influence on where we will spend our money and how ( for me, this is rather buying services we can rely on than products that are closed and that will soon appear not open enough, and too limitative) We are decided to use more and more ZOPE as a backend and server. have you considered using ZOPE as the server , for example for the shared calendars, for aethera ? How coul I help you considering ZOPE for such a use : this would be really convenient for us as it would mean we could integrate aethera and the web based calendar+groupware+workflow we are considering. I suppose such requirements are similar to the ones many companies and institutions like mine have. Maybe, all these institutions could team up and support you along these lines. For me a VERY important point you satisfy, and for which once again I want to thank you, is that the application be free software. Some more questions: 1/ which standards are you following for example for the calendaing features or the taks and appointment requests ? 2/ will the application be compatible with Evolution ? 3/ You say Python will be woven into all of our applications as a scripting component. It isn't there yet, but it will be. For kivio and aethera, what are your plans (release dates ) ? 4/ How can I help you get further ? - Try and collect money, - find people/teams/developpers especially KDE who could help you and your company - or shoudl I say kompany at developping or selling local support ? I am better at that - convincing people and finding money - than at writing applications so I'll stick to what I am best of. Best regards, Nicolas Pettiaux -- Nicolas Pettiaux Avenue du Prou 29 B-1000 Brussels ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] RE: Workflow and document management system in Zope
s the easiest and that tests are better done on Debian that on other systems (No wonder VA Linux has choosen Debain !) We could use other if absolutely needed. Q21/ What would you charge for such a system, how do you charge - by named user, by site, ... ? Q22/ Would you or any English speaker be able to come to Brussels soon ? Q23/ Would you be ready to cooperate with a local system integrator could would provide local help and support ? I am asking that many questions because 1/ I find your system wonderful 2/ I am in a hurry (the selection meeting was planned for Wednesday but is a little postponed ) 3/ I need to have a demonstration system as well as a qualification session soon. Hoping to read you soon. Best regards, Nicolas Pettiaux -- Nicolas Pettiaux Avenue du Pérou 29 B-1000 Brussels ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Workflow and document management system in Zope
Dear Mr Boulanger, Thank you very much for your input. I don't think there is such as system polished and ready within 2 weeks. I do NOT need a polished system within 2 weeks. I need a proof of concept . The production system shoudl run in 2 or 3 months ... and could be optimized afterwards also, in order to be polished. If it is well though already this should be possible. What could you do or take in charge ? Best regards, Nicolas Pettiaux Le Samedi 20 Janvier 2001 00:51, albert boulanger a crit : I am looking for a workflow (WF) linked to a electronic document management (EDM) system and a groupware email based (I have just happened to come accross aethera from the Kompany) that would be free software and preferably in Zope + Python. The WF+DEM system I am looking for need to be usable with only a browser (to be independant from the client ... that could be proprietary !), store its data into a postgresql database. It should be demonstrablable (at least showable into a proof of concept) within 2 weeks and be already installable and usable within 2 or 3 months. (I have obtained taoday that the date when we'll decide on the system would be postponed 2 weeks from wednesday 24/1 to wed 7/2) If I could find such a marvel, I may find the money to pay for it, at least 5 $ to start with (this amount is a rapid guess; I may give more precise amounts we could spend in the following week) The idea is to use that combination of tools INSTEAD of buying a closed, proprietary solution (that may exist but be expensive and really har to parametrize), that NEED to be linked to a SAP ERP system. All suggestions and ideas are welcome, also on the selection criteria. (I happen to be responsible for the IT dept of the public institution that wants to buy such a tool, but be new in the place and do not yet know a lot about WF and EDM !) Soon I may be able to give you more details about the requirements. I don't think there is such as system polished and ready within 2 weeks. Here are some starting points: use wftk as a basis, the open source workflow toolkit -- http://.vivtek.com/wftk use openflow, a Zope based, but stalled project, http://openflow.sourceforge.net use Chautauqua, an old python based workflow system, http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~carlosm/chautauqua.html use the old UCI Endeavors workflow (java) system at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/endeavors/endeavors.html We have not bit the bullet and built anything yet. Regards, Albert Boulanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nicolas Pettiaux Avenue du Prou 29 B-1000 Brussels ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Workflow and document management system in Zope
Thank you very much for your rapid answer. I will look deeper to that as soon as tomorrow as I will have to decide for such products from corporate proposals versus free software products next week. For you, when would such products be considered ready for production ? If I can have a demonstration rapidly (unfortunately I do not yet know Zope personnally but I shall look for help locally), I may even get funds to help and foster the complementary developpement. Best regards, Nicolas Le Jeudi 18 Janvier 2001 23:38, Spicklemire, Jerry a crit : Nicolas said: I am looking for two products: a professional workflow and a electronic document management system, preferably in Zope or opensource if not in Zope. These 2 applications should be able to work together. Some of this is now in the Portal Toolkit (PTK) soon to be re-named and re-launched at the release of the long awaited version 1. This is the bag of tricks that the Digital Creations gang uses to whip out massive, stat-of-the-art Web extravaganzas at light speed. You can download the pre-beta at: http://classic.zope.org:8080/Community/CVS_public_access Also, you may be interested in the tools developed for the Zope Documentation Project, at: http://www.zope.org/Members/roeder Lots of other folks are very interested in these topics, I'm sure you'll get some positive feedback to your questions. Later, Jerry S. -- Nicolas Pettiaux Avenue du Prou 29 B-1000 Brussels ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
