Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-27 Thread Nikko Wolf

I prefer:
  emacs with ExternalEditor - to edit ZODB objects,
  emacs with TRAMP - to edit native filesystem files via SSH, see:
http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/tramp/

emacs via FTP (with AngeFTP or with TRAMP) is also good for both of 
these when configured.  But be aware that content and authorization 
strings are unencrypted over the wire for FTP, or HTTP (ExternalEditor 
and ZMI).


If it's behind Apache HTTPS, ZMI or ExternalEditor should be secure.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

What about Zope FTP -- can it be secured?

Ciao,
Nikko

Dennis Allison wrote:

emacs via ftp -- see the Zope Book for funky details.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:



On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:


What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?


ExternalEditor.


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[Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread John Poltorak

What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?

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RE: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Jim Abramson
I do recommend Boa Constructor, which feels the most like you're
actually editing source code files (though you're editing the zope
objects in place).  This program has actually saved my life.

Caveats:  It has a few dependencies you'll need to track down, and it's
a little buggy/quirky.  If you're not comfortable with a bit of DIY, or
you're relatively new to zope and/or python, it might be more trouble
than its worth.

The 'upload' mechanism in ZMI for most objects might do OK for you, then
you can use whatever editing environment you want.  I'm sure a lot of
people have solved this particular problem for themselves in different
ways, based on their own editing needs/preferences.  After a little
trial and error, of course.

Jim


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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Paul Winkler
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
 
 What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?

ExternalEditor.
 
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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread John Poltorak
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:49:19AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
  
  What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
 
 ExternalEditor.

Do you mean this?

http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor

Are there any screen shots of it in action?

I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.

  
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-- 
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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Brian Sullivan
AFAIK External Editor just provides the infrastructure not the editor itself.

I use the External Editor product/infrastructure and HTML Kit on Windows:

http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Dennis Allison

emacs via ftp -- see the Zope Book for funky details.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
  
  What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
 
 ExternalEditor.
  
 

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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Dennis Allison

External editor is an interface product that allows you to edit 
Zope objects with your local editor (vi, emacs, nano, wordpad, etc)
but it does require installation of a helper product and Python on the 
client machine.


On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, John Poltorak wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:49:19AM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
   
   What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
  
  ExternalEditor.
 
 Do you mean this?
 
 http://plope.com/software/ExternalEditor
 
 Are there any screen shots of it in action?
 
 I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.
 
   
  -- 
  
  Paul Winkler
  http://www.slinkp.com
 
 

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Re: [Zope] External editor for ZMI

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Langmead

On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:


What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?



I've often used the WebDAV support for using standard file system  
based editing tools on Zope content. How well it works depends  
greatly on the WebDAV client you have (I guess the WebDAV client  
authors would claim that it depends on the WebDAV server, but in this  
case the server is fixed as Zope) On MacOSX, it works very well. I've  
never been able to get Windows Web Folders to work successfully with  
Zope.

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