Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
David Pratt wrote: for this feedback. I will be evaluating this option as well. There are differences in licensing that may be a factor in what I decide to use after some evaluation. BSD with XUF compared to MIT with SimpleUserFolder. Huh?! What exactly is the problems with the MIT license? It's prettymuch the simplest and least restrictive open source license out there, which is why I selected it. Did you actually read the license file? ;-) > I try to learn from GPL-like sources as opposed to using them in my > code. The MIT license has NOTHING to do with the GPL. Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Hi Garth. Yes, it is very compact compared to XUF for sure. Thank you for this feedback. I will be evaluating this option as well. There are differences in licensing that may be a factor in what I decide to use after some evaluation. BSD with XUF compared to MIT with SimpleUserFolder. I have tended to stick with ZPL and BSD only sources. I try to learn from GPL-like sources as opposed to using them in my code. This may be a factor in my decision despite the fact that SimpleUserFolder may be smaller and simpler to implement. Regards, David On Friday, July 15, 2005, at 08:57 PM, Garth B. wrote: For what it's worth, I recently used the SimpleUserFolder for an application that uses Postgres as the backend. It was terrifically easy to implement authentication through Postgres via the SimpleUserFolder. It does exactly what I want without unnecessary frill or complications. Garth On 7/15/05, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300: Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far. Chris Withers would tell you, that "Simple User Folder" can do this as well :-) -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
For what it's worth, I recently used the SimpleUserFolder for an application that uses Postgres as the backend. It was terrifically easy to implement authentication through Postgres via the SimpleUserFolder. It does exactly what I want without unnecessary frill or complications. Garth On 7/15/05, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300: > >Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is > >the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far. > > Chris Withers would tell you, that "Simple User Folder" can do this > as well :-) > > -- > Dieter > ___ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300: >Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is >the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far. Chris Withers would tell you, that "Simple User Folder" can do this as well :-) -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
David Pratt wrote: I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. You might want to take a look at SimpleUserFolder. It's a lot more light weight that XUF and handles RDB-based auth of any variety really well... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Thanks Tino and Andrew. This is all useful feedback. Regards, David On Friday, July 15, 2005, at 05:11 AM, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Am Freitag, den 15.07.2005, 16:25 +1000 schrieb Andrew Milton: +---[ Tino Wildenhain ]-- | Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt: | > I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of | > this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on | > how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. | | I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth | and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt. BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types.. crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can write your own in about 30 seconds if you need something else. Well this sha1 patch wasnt the real hard work ;-) Inline auth was the real nut to crack. And the fact XUF returns HTML instead of using appropriate exceptions add to the complexity :-) I hope PAS will fill the gap although it isnt yet ready for prime time. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Am Freitag, den 15.07.2005, 16:25 +1000 schrieb Andrew Milton: > +---[ Tino Wildenhain ]-- > | Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt: > | > I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of > | > this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on > | > how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. > | > | I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth > | and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt. > > BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types.. > > crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can write your > own in about 30 seconds if you need something else. > Well this sha1 patch wasnt the real hard work ;-) Inline auth was the real nut to crack. And the fact XUF returns HTML instead of using appropriate exceptions add to the complexity :-) I hope PAS will fill the gap although it isnt yet ready for prime time. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
+---[ Tino Wildenhain ]-- | Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt: | > I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of | > this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on | > how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. | | I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth | and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt. BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types.. crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can write your own in about 30 seconds if you need something else. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt: > I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of > this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on > how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far. Regards David On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 06:49 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 12:46 -0300: I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on how this solution is working for them. We use it and are satisfied with it. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 12:46 -0300: >I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of >this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on >how this solution is working for them. We use it and are satisfied with it. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres
Hi David We are using the combo, although in a very plain form. We use a custom table for users and have implemented any additional functionality in our own way. So we use XUF/pg for handling security in Zope. This works on global roles, assigned in the table record, but also with local roles assigned to users in the ZMI. Nice thing is: You can add multiple instances of XUF in different folders all pointing at the same pg table. Summarising: We like XUF a lot, but do not use most of its advanced stuff. We have had no security or performance issues (but then our Postgresql server has RAID and 2 CPUs). Also, Andrew Milton (author) is very helpful in answering questions on the mailing list. To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exuserfolder-users Cheers On 14 Jul 2005, at 16:46, David Pratt wrote: I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] XUF and Postgres
I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres. Any users of this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on how this solution is working for them. Many thanks. David ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
