Re: [Zope] Multiple zope instances using the same storage
Mark Gibson wrote at 2008-12-6 11:22 -0700: I have an unusual setup. I have 4 distinct Zope instances (4 seperate Data.fs'). Each Data.fs is identical - Data is kept in a RDBMS. I have a product I need to install that stores data in the ZODB. This data is stored in one folder. Now, I *think* I can simply mount this folder in each ZODB and serve the storage through a ZEO server - however I've never done this setup, so I want to make sure this makes sense and I'm not overlooking potential problems. This should be possible -- though I expect that you can use a single Data.fs, serve it with ZEO and mount it in each of your Zope instances. There is little reason to have 4 identical Data.fs once you have decided to use ZEO anywhere. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Multiple zope instances using the same storage
Dieter Maurer wrote: Mark Gibson wrote at 2008-12-6 11:22 -0700: I have an unusual setup. I have 4 distinct Zope instances (4 seperate Data.fs'). Each Data.fs is identical - Data is kept in a RDBMS. I have a product I need to install that stores data in the ZODB. This data is stored in one folder. Now, I *think* I can simply mount this folder in each ZODB and serve the storage through a ZEO server - however I've never done this setup, so I want to make sure this makes sense and I'm not overlooking potential problems. This should be possible -- though I expect that you can use a single Data.fs, serve it with ZEO and mount it in each of your Zope instances. There is little reason to have 4 identical Data.fs once you have decided to use ZEO anywhere. Thanks Dieter. I agree with you. This isn't my setup, so I would like to avoid having too much of an impact on their setup, but I'll bring it up with the client. Mark ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Multiple zope instances using the same storage
I have an unusual setup. I have 4 distinct Zope instances (4 seperate Data.fs'). Each Data.fs is identical - Data is kept in a RDBMS. I have a product I need to install that stores data in the ZODB. This data is stored in one folder. Now, I *think* I can simply mount this folder in each ZODB and serve the storage through a ZEO server - however I've never done this setup, so I want to make sure this makes sense and I'm not overlooking potential problems. This is a legacy setup that I'm not responsible for, so I'm trying to keep my footprint in this setup as small as possible. Using Zope 2.7.9. Thanks, Mark ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Multiple Zope Instance
Thank you for your reply. I was looking for a way to change the Window XP service to start zope-instance-2 instead of zope-instance-1. I found another way by modifying zope-instance-1/etc/zope.conf to point the zope-instance-2 directory. It works after restart the zope service. However, is this the "right" way to use multiple instances?Any advice.Thanks.michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just change the port numbers in the zope.conf file. Change zope-instance-2 to run on 8080.On 2/3/06, Infor Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear zopistI am using Zope 2.8.4 on windows. I have installed and created a zope instance-1 which run as a service in WindowXP. Later, I created a 2nd zope instance-2 by mkzopeinstance. How can I configure zope to run zope instance-2 as the default service instead of instance-1?Thanks alot.CY Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announcehttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )-- Michael Get the latest photos from your camera to your friends & family fast and easy with PhotoMail from Yahoo! Mail.___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Multiple Zope Instance
You just change the port numbers in the zope.conf file. Change zope-instance-2 to run on 8080.On 2/3/06, Infor Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dear zopistI am using Zope 2.8.4 on windows. I have installed and created a zope instance-1 which run as a service in WindowXP. Later, I created a 2nd zope instance-2 by mkzopeinstance. How can I configure zope to run zope instance-2 as the default service instead of instance-1?Thanks alot.CY Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announcehttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )-- Michael ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Multiple Zope Instance
Dear zopistI am using Zope 2.8.4 on windows. I have installed and created a zope instance-1 which run as a service in WindowXP. Later, I created a 2nd zope instance-2 by mkzopeinstance.How can I configure zope to run zope instance-2 as the default service instead of instance-1?Thanks alot.CY Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] multiple ZOPE ...
We host zope using mutliple installations of zope. Yes, that's what we do for our "Professional" Zope hosting. For "FreeZope", you just get your own folder, and it lives under http://freezope.nipltd.net/yourplace. We have a standard list of products, and we don't allow people any more. It is better this way because then the clients can control which products they have installed, they can tweak their products without bothering anyone else, they can stop and restart zope whenever they please...the basically have full control. You can't do that with more than one client using the same instance. All the advantages you mention, plus you can let them upgrade their Zope version when they need it. We want to upgrade FreeZope to 2.2.x at the moment, and its something we need to be cautious about. There are a lot of people on FreeZope, and the move to 2.2 can break a fair number of things. Given its this painful on a free service, I'd hate to be trying to upgrade a shared server that had paying clients. Yes it does use a fair bit of memory, but you would expect your client to pay for it accordingly. Its also requires a fair number of configuration steps (raise the OS account, install Zope, configure Apache, configure MySQL, setup DNS, setup log analysis etc.), which takes time - although we'll probably automate some or all of this at some point. If you allow your customers shell access to the machine you also need much greater security awareness than you'd have for just a normal firewalled web server. Simon -- - My opinions are my own, NIP's opinions are theirs -- Simon J. Coles Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Information Paradigms Work Phone: +44 1344 753703 http://www.nipltd.com/ Work Fax: +44 1344 753742 === Life is too precious to take seriously === ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] multiple ZOPE ...
We host zope using mutliple installations of zope. It is better this way because then the clients can control which products they have installed, they can tweak their products without bothering anyone else, they can stop and restart zope whenever they please...the basically have full control. You can't do that with more than one client using the same instance. Yes it does use a fair bit of memory, but you would expect your client to pay for it accordingly. terry "Dicken, Peer" wrote: Hi, How can I provide ZOPE Hosting? I have successfully tried SiteAccess and Apache Proxying, but that´s not what I like - it´s a little bit ZOPE "light", no control panel for clients... I think it´s best to provide a zope installation for any of our clients, but, wouldn´t that be eating up my servers memory? Today i´ve set up three installations by simply having 3 zope installations running on different ports in different folders (/www/domain/zope). Is there any more advanced way to do (virtual) hosting with zope AND provide control panels to the clients or is it okay to have one installation per costumer running? MfG / best regards, Peer Dicken IMD GmbH Softwareentwicklung Unternehmensberatung Edisonstr. 1 59199 Bönen Tel.: +49 23 83 - 9191-0 Fax.: +49 23 83 - 919191 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Terry Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: +613 9563 4461 Fax: +613 9563 3856 Mobile: +61 414 708 124 ICQ: 79303381 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
