Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other people who're trying to help out? I particularly hate the fact that no real effort was put into backwards compatibility, not to mention those silly weird sort-of-fifty-dots-per-line thing that doesn't actually work. My other big bug bear is what I've read about make-make-install no longer working in 2.9. Why on earth was this just broken without any thought to the vast number of people who rely on this as a simple way to quickly get a new release onto a number of boxes? I've been very happy to see the majority of the stuff in Zope 3, but it seems some things like this are getting rushed through without a lot of thought and consideration, which seems very un-zope-3 to me :-( Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] CMF Collector: Open Issues
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF). Assigned and Open jens - CachingPolicyManager: Make Max-Age parameter dynamic, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/405 mhammond - Windows DevelopmentMode penalty in CMFCore.DirectoryView, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/366 Pending / Deferred Issues - Wrong cache association for FSObject, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/255 - CMFSetup: Windows exports contain CR/LF, LF and even CR newlines, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/266 - FSPropertiesObject.py cannot handle multiline input for lines, text attributes, [Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/271 - Can't invalidate skin items in a RAMCacheManager, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/343 - CMFSetup: Workflow Tool export fails with workflows which have scripts, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/373 - CMFCore.Skinnable.SkinnableObjectManager can merge skin data, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/375 - Proxy Roles does't work for a Script using portal_catalog.searchResults, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/380 - WorkflowAction deprecated warning should not printed for WorkflowMethod, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/388 - workflow notify success should be after reindex, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/389 - Content in Setup gets Cleared (Content Import Handler), [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/404 - index_html manage_workspace and view error, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/406 - workflow interface out of date on 1.5 branch, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/407 Pending / Deferred Features - Favorite.py: queries and anchors in remote_url, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/26 - DefaultDublinCore should have Creator property, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/61 - path criteria on Topic should honor VHM, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/111 - Document.py: universal newlines, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/174 - Add condition for transition's action like other action, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/207 - Major action enhancement, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/232 - portal_type is undefined in initialization code, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/248 - CMFTopic Does Not Cache, [Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/295 - Wishlist: a flag that tags the selected action., [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/301 - CMFDefault should make use of allowCreate(), [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/340 - Nested Skins, [Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/377 - CatalogVariableProvider code + tests, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/378 - manage_doCustomize() : minor additions, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/382 - First Day of Week, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/400 - CachingPolicyManager: Support OFS.Cache.CacheManager, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/408 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: From the old testrunner, which I miss *a lot*, I could ensure I am indeed running a specific module by doing... Yup, this is one of the things I like least from the Zope 3 world. What happened to proposals and community agreement before inflicting big changes on other people who're trying to help out? Oh cut the crap. The new test runner tries very hard to be backward compatible. The old test runner was increasingly unmaintaiable and had a host of bugs of it's own. I can't tell what you snipped, but I'm guessing that it was the breakage of supplying a module name as a positional argument. This breakage was not intentional. It was a bug. There is an easy work around: just use the -m option. I particularly hate the fact that no real effort was put into backwards compatibility, not to mention those silly weird sort-of-fifty-dots-per-line thing that doesn't actually work. I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of the testrunner when running with dots seems gratuitous to me, as well - -- I don't see any benefit to the indented, narrower output, especially because it's prettiness gets fouled up anyway by deprecation warnings, etc. I objected to the change enough to file collector issues: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1958 http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/493 What the heck are you talking about? What doesn't work? Zope 2.9 broke the 'confiugre-make' dance in several ways, due (I think) to the choice to bolt on^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hretrofit zpkg. E.g.: $ cd /tmp $ svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk zt $ cd zt $ ./configure --prefix=/tmp/zt-sw make make install ... running install_scripts error: cannot copy tree 'build/scripts-2.4': not a directory make: *** [install] Error 1 $ make clobber inplace ... $ ls -laF bin ls: bin: No such file or directory (The 'bin' directory was, in Zope 2.7, 2.8, the location for the scripts, created during an inplace build). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 202-558-7113 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEH/jP+gerLs4ltQ4RAhlOAKDBNhLZNaLvUn9bHOTBiIjBz2CYLQCeI6gp WD21iz7SSHQfCTOd0PxT22s= =k4TY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:19:47PM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the tips, guys. I'm going to put together a document, mostly as a reminder for myself, that points out the differences for the 3 cases that cover 99% of my own needs, and then link that from zope.org so that hopefully other people will be able to find it. How bout here? http://zopewiki.org/HowToRunZopeUnitTests -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21 Mar 2006, at 14:55, Paul Winkler wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:19:47PM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the tips, guys. I'm going to put together a document, mostly as a reminder for myself, that points out the differences for the 3 cases that cover 99% of my own needs, and then link that from zope.org so that hopefully other people will be able to find it. How bout here? http://zopewiki.org/HowToRunZopeUnitTests Umh, I didn't plan on writing a novel. I have a very simple document here: http://www.dataflake.org/docs/testrunner_madness.html ... and a published Link on zope.org here: http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/docs/Link.2006-03-21.0148/view jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEIBVuRAx5nvEhZLIRApZsAJ9L0UyJLC2HxZtRw/YGae5dKTMfnACeJWSY rhx2nQ412af5BMzvuYUB1dc= =TtXN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 03:02:06PM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 21 Mar 2006, at 14:55, Paul Winkler wrote: How bout here? http://zopewiki.org/HowToRunZopeUnitTests Umh, I didn't plan on writing a novel. I have a very simple document here: http://www.dataflake.org/docs/testrunner_madness.html I didn't ask for a novel, a comment would do :) I've linked to your page, that's fine for now. Thanks for writing that! -PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] Re: [dev] characters allowed in content IDs
Hi Dieter! Dieter Maurer wrote: yuppie wrote at 2006-3-20 18:17 +0100: ... But I gave up my attempt to fix this in the Zope layer because the related discussion on zope-dev ended without a clear result. There was a clear result: make the id checker policy configurable -- as Zope 3 does. Well. That's right but doesn't help us much. We don't have a volunteer for implementing that new feature. And we don't have a consensus what the default policy should be. I hope there are no objections against fixing this in PortalFolder's _checkId method for now. Almost surely, you should make it configurable there, too. Why should I make it configurable? I volunteer to fix a serious bug by restoring behavior we had until 6 months ago. An INameChooser based configurable solution would be much more work than just fixing the bug. The same arguments apply in CMF land as in Zope land. You deleted the sentence in which I said what's different IMHO: In CMF we plan to use views by default and it's quite common that normal site members are allowed to add content items. So it's more urgent to fix the bug in CMF than in Zope. Cheers, Yuppie ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] Zope Debugger 0.8.2 Released!
Zope Debugger is an enhanced version of pdb for use with Zope. This release fixes compatability issues with Zope 2.9 and Python 2.4. It can be used simply by inserting the following lines in any python code you'd like to debug, including Script (Python)'s and FSPythonScripts: from Products.zdb import set_trace set_trace() It requires no changes to Zope, CMF or Plone or any funky interaction with any specific kind of editing software. All you really need to do is insert the snippet above and make sure your Zope instance is running in foreground mode. For more information, please see: http://www.simplistix.co.uk/software/zope/zdb cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Fighting the Zope 2.9 testrunner
Tres Seaver wrote: I'm not sure what Chris meant, but the change to the visual output of the testrunner when running with dots seems gratuitous to me, as well -- I don't see any benefit to the indented, narrower output, Me neither, for what it's worth. Zope 2.9 broke the 'confiugre-make' dance in several ways, due (I think) to the choice to bolt on^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hretrofit zpkg. Sort of. It didn't break configure make. It's just make install that was broken. I still don't understand why people whine about make install being gone. The point of a checkout is that you have a full functional SVN working copy, not an installation source. If you want to install things, use a TGZ archive which lets you do make install perfectly fine. I've never installed Zope anywhere except on production servers anyway, and there you should obviously use releases. If you absolutely must use make install from a checkout (perhaps because you want to install the trunk somewhere), then you can make a TGZ first using zpkg. Though I still don't see the point of it. Philipp ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
