Re: [Zope-dev] Integrating mailman with Zope?
I've been away and I am only just catching up with Zope-dev. I have been working on a ZCGI product for a long time, but I keep getting stuck when I try to port it to Windows (No pipes - No nothing in fact) :( If you want to look at the code, drop me a line Adrian... -- Adrian Hungate All views expressed in this email are those of the whole world, however some people don't realise this yet. - Original Message - From: Fred Wilson Horch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] Integrating mailman with Zope? Hi everybody, After a hiatus on our project to integrate Mailman and Zope 2.3.x here at EcoAccess, we're about to tackle it again. Has anyone out there tried this already? Last we heard, Mailman was a standalone CGI program, and in order to make it work with Zope you had to run both Mailman and Zope behind another web server (such as Apache). What we're planning to do is write a CGI product for Zope 2.3.3 so that we can run CGI programs with ZServer under Zope, eliminating the need to set up and configure Apache or any other web server. If you've already written a CGI Zope product (i.e., a product that lets you run CGI programs from any Zope folder), please let me know! Otherwise, I'll continue the experiments. ;-) Best regards, Fred -- Fred Wilson Horch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Executive Director, EcoAccess http://ecoaccess.org/ P.O. Box 2823, Durham, NC 27715-2823 phone: 919.419-8567 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev
You might have a point there. RedHat seem to have quite a functional business model going on, perhaps zope could borrow some ideas from there. I know that many people that currently run Linux (Home and work) would no do so except for RedHat, Suse or Mandrake. Adrian... -- Adrian Hungate All views expressed in this email are those of the whole world, however some people don't realise this yet. - Original Message - From: Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeffrey P Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev Where's the $99 version of Zope? The $499? The $1499? The $25999? Zope Corp hasn't pulled that card out like many other vendors have. There are actually many pieces of Zope that were initially commercial add-ons (or intended to be) that are now all open source. I sometimes have the feeling that we might NEED a $xx(x) version of Zope -- a ready-to-go, preconfigured Zope distro with a decent manual. Not for us, the community, but for the average user. O.k., we could do it for free, but would there be a Red Hat or SuSE Linux distro if it was totally for free? It even CAN be downloaded for free, and still people are willing to pay for it. And the money is needed. Without the support from the major Linux distributors, projects like XFree would probably be in big trouble ... This is a totally different business model than the one Zope Corp. is using right now, but it might help refinancing the overhead a good community needs to have ... Just my 2 (euro)cents ... Joachim ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] More signal 11 restarts....
Hello Which config/tool make that your zope restart automatically??? Gilles -Original Message- From: Leonardo Rochael Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope-dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 20:07 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] More signal 11 restarts Hi Harald, On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 14:32, Harald Koschinski wrote: Daniel Duclos wrote: I have a zope that is dumping signal 11 every 40 minutes or so. I have tried recompile python 2.1.1 with-threads without-pymalloc, recompile Zope with it, recompile ZPAtterns, recompile and instal MYSQL for Python 0.9.1, upgraded to Zope 2.4.3, all this on a Debian Linux box. Nothing changed... still restarting... Anybody, please, has any ideia on this matter? Please, let me know if there's any relevant info that I forgot to mention abot my case! Thanks in advance!! I have the same problem since we are live :-((( I have the same versions running like you and I tried the same to fix - but no change. What is your state with this problem. Fixed ? How? It's not fixed, but we managed to make it bearable so as not to lose the client. by replacing LoginManager with exUserFolder we managed to bring down the zope restart time from 5 min (we have a HUGE Data.fs) to 20 secs, and by installing ZEO we brought down the restart time to between 2 and 8 secs. By increasing the caching of requests we managed to increase the time between restart from 15 min to 2 hours. That and a nicely formated Apache error page for Proxy Errors, for the lucky bastards who happen to hit the server in the exactly 2 seconds of restart, managed to calm down the client enough for us to breath. I'll try the requestprofiler tip Chris gave, but I don't have much hope, since we use mysql for authentication and the site is authenticated mostly everywhere. We are seriously considering droping mysql for postgresql. Cheers, Leo -- Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] More signal 11 restarts....
On Thu, 2001-12-06 at 08:43, Gilles Lavaux wrote: Hello Which config/tool make that your zope restart automatically??? Zope itself. Here is a snipet of Z2.py help text for your amusement :-) -Z path Unix only! This option is ignored on windows. If this option is specified, a separate managemnt process will be created that restarts Zope after a shutdown (or crash). The path must point to a pid file that the process will record its process id in. The path may be relative, in which case it will be relative to the Zope location. To prevent use of a separate management process, provide an empty string: -Z '' ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT Plain Text
x tal:repeat=object here/collection tal:omit-tag= I am y tal:replace=object/id / /x Everybody keeps forgetting it, but this should work: tal:loop repeat=object here/collection I am y tal:replace=object/id / /tal:loop Because tags in the 'tal' namespace are stripped. I could have used dummy instead of loop though. Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo SARL (Paris, France) +33 1 40 33 79 10 http://nuxeo.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZPT Plain Text
Florent Guillaume wrote: x tal:repeat=object here/collection tal:omit-tag= I am y tal:replace=object/id / /x Everybody keeps forgetting it, but this should work: tal:loop repeat=object here/collection I am y tal:replace=object/id / /tal:loop Because tags in the 'tal' namespace are stripped. I could have used dummy instead of loop though. I did forget that, and that makes it even better :-) Thanks Florent... Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
From: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I believe however, it should make no difference which of the two approaches is used. As far as I can understand, ZBabel uses a database to store the translations. Is this correct? That approach is for obvious reasons not useful when translating the Zope core and the Zope management interfaces, even though it is a reasonable (even good) way to do it when translating web pages. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
Hi Lennart, - Original Message - From: Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support From: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I believe however, it should make no difference which of the two approaches is used. As far as I can understand, ZBabel uses a database to store the translations. Is this correct? You can use an external database based on Postgresql. But you have not to use Normally your data will be stored in the ZODB ZBabelTower That approach is for obvious reasons not useful when translating the Zope core and the Zope management interfaces, even though it is a reasonable (even good) way to do it when translating web pages. Regards Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope server speed
HI all, I have a problem: my company is looking for an application server. I know Zope (I presented it), and a friend of mine presented Macromedia ColdFusion. We made some tests about the speed of the systems, arghh!!! Zope is VERY slow compared to ColdFusion! Some examples: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). The same PC, the same server, ColdFusion took about 2 minutes to complete the operation!!! Coldfusion is more than 5 times faster than Zope!!! PHASE 2: I said: ok, maybe Zope is slower that Coldfusion in TAG formatting... and I tried to get the records and perform a calculation, without no output... Sigh! the results are the same! I am depressed, since I talk about Zope very well in my company, but now... Coldfusion and Zope are similar, so we shall select ColdFusion to develop web applications. SIGH !!! Can I try something to increase Zope power?! Alessandro Manotti Presidente dell'Associazione RIUSA Sito web: http://riusa.apritisesamo.net email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] maybe we could script it (Re: hooking up gdb)
- Original Message - From: Leonardo Rochael Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of options, is linux-binary-Zope-2.4.3-python still being compiled with --pymalloc? As I mentioned before, our segfaults reduced drastically WITHOUT it. The answer is Yes, I think :) I built the linux binaries for the Zope distribution of Python 2.1 some time ago and I was already aware of problems with pymalloc, so I certainly didn't enable it; and I think 2.1 did not enable it by default. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, MANOTTI Alessandro wrote: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). That is quite a lot of records :) Out of interest, why test pulling out that many records? Does your application need to return that many records to the user? Can calculations be done in a stored procedure or something. I've never tried doing anything like this, so I don't really know what I'm talking about :) however I would have thought that it doesn't sound like a particularly realistic test (not that I know what your application does). I wonder how fast Zope is compared to CF in doing, say, 1000 repeat requests each of, say, 1000 records. -Matt -- Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Business Vision on the Internet http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Hosting | Web Design | Domain Names | Co-location | DB Integration ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed
Hi Alessandro, Zope and Python combined aren't too bad if you write some wrappers that help you manipulate data; the problem comes about when you try to do large naive queries -- there is a LOT of overhead in taking Oracle data, encapsulating it in Python objects, and then wrapping that in the Zope machinery. I have a sample database in Oracle of US Zip codes -- it has about 45,000 records in it. I can pull this into DCOracle2 on the C adapter side (dco2.so) in less than a second. However, wrapping each result cell in a python object blows that up into about 9 seconds. If I were to iterate over the whole thing in Zope (which I haven't timed) it would get a LOT longer, because Zope is enforcing policy on every object accessed. So, one of the ways to make that go faster is to use python modules 'outside' of Zope (ie external methods) to perform large calculations which takes a ZOracleDA connection object to get a cursor object on the database, does the query directly, and formats and returns the results. I realize this isn't ideal, but Zope is not optimized for the case of extract thousands of records from the database and format them in a huge table. Zope likes extract hundreds of records from the database and format them in a big table instead. With each release, Zope has more features that enable you to program through the web, but when you're doing performance intensive calculations, it's usually time to write a python module and plug it in to zope (via an external method, or by writing a product). If you have the time to learn, I suggest the product route as being more satisfying, but it can be more frustrating as well. - Original Message - From: MANOTTI Alessandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed HI all, I have a problem: my company is looking for an application server. I know Zope (I presented it), and a friend of mine presented Macromedia ColdFusion. We made some tests about the speed of the systems, arghh!!! Zope is VERY slow compared to ColdFusion! Some examples: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). The same PC, the same server, ColdFusion took about 2 minutes to complete the operation!!! Coldfusion is more than 5 times faster than Zope!!! PHASE 2: I said: ok, maybe Zope is slower that Coldfusion in TAG formatting... and I tried to get the records and perform a calculation, without no output... Sigh! the results are the same! I am depressed, since I talk about Zope very well in my company, but now... Coldfusion and Zope are similar, so we shall select ColdFusion to develop web applications. SIGH !!! Can I try something to increase Zope power?! Alessandro Manotti Presidente dell'Associazione RIUSA Sito web: http://riusa.apritisesamo.net email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] reduce() doesn't work in Python Scripts
In Zope 2.4.3 binary on Linux import operator reduce(operator.add,[0,1,2,3,4]) gives me Error Value: global name 'reduce' is not defined Is this a faq? Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED] (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed
Thank you for your suggestions (thanks to Matt). I will try to make smaller but more requests (1000 requests of 1000 records). I will even try to bypass Zope and write an external method in Python (I know Pytho very well). About this solution: can you tell me what I have to do to use ZOracle directly in Python (import ... ? ) ? Thanks to everybody! -Original Message- From: Matthew T. Kromer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 15:27 To: MANOTTI Alessandro; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed Hi Alessandro, Zope and Python combined aren't too bad if you write some wrappers that help you manipulate data; the problem comes about when you try to do large naive queries -- there is a LOT of overhead in taking Oracle data, encapsulating it in Python objects, and then wrapping that in the Zope machinery. I have a sample database in Oracle of US Zip codes -- it has about 45,000 records in it. I can pull this into DCOracle2 on the C adapter side (dco2.so) in less than a second. However, wrapping each result cell in a python object blows that up into about 9 seconds. If I were to iterate over the whole thing in Zope (which I haven't timed) it would get a LOT longer, because Zope is enforcing policy on every object accessed. So, one of the ways to make that go faster is to use python modules 'outside' of Zope (ie external methods) to perform large calculations which takes a ZOracleDA connection object to get a cursor object on the database, does the query directly, and formats and returns the results. I realize this isn't ideal, but Zope is not optimized for the case of extract thousands of records from the database and format them in a huge table. Zope likes extract hundreds of records from the database and format them in a big table instead. With each release, Zope has more features that enable you to program through the web, but when you're doing performance intensive calculations, it's usually time to write a python module and plug it in to zope (via an external method, or by writing a product). If you have the time to learn, I suggest the product route as being more satisfying, but it can be more frustrating as well. - Original Message - From: MANOTTI Alessandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed HI all, I have a problem: my company is looking for an application server. I know Zope (I presented it), and a friend of mine presented Macromedia ColdFusion. We made some tests about the speed of the systems, arghh!!! Zope is VERY slow compared to ColdFusion! Some examples: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). The same PC, the same server, ColdFusion took about 2 minutes to complete the operation!!! Coldfusion is more than 5 times faster than Zope!!! PHASE 2: I said: ok, maybe Zope is slower that Coldfusion in TAG formatting... and I tried to get the records and perform a calculation, without no output... Sigh! the results are the same! I am depressed, since I talk about Zope very well in my company, but now... Coldfusion and Zope are similar, so we shall select ColdFusion to develop web applications. SIGH !!! Can I try something to increase Zope power?! Alessandro Manotti Presidente dell'Associazione RIUSA Sito web: http://riusa.apritisesamo.net email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: hooking up gdb (was Re: [Zope-dev] More signal 11 restarts....)
On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 15:41, Matthew T. Kromer wrote: Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: We aren't getting any core files, even after setting ulimit correctly (although we could be setting it uncorrectly. I'll look into that further). Anyway, someone else in this list said that core dumps for threaded apps in Linux were mostly useless, so we aren't investing much energy in it anyway. With the short restart times we have, I'd prever a solution that didn't involve keeping a dead site dead for too long (as in, debugging with gdb). We are working in a ZEO scheme that would switch over the accelerator to proxy another zeo client, but we are not there yet. It would be ideal if we could instruct python to grab the SIG11, invoke gdb, get a C stacktrace for all threads and let Zope die in peace. If it all happend in a few seconds, we will still keep the client happy. Well largely, ALL I want is the backtrace -- and I'm wondering if I could cobble something together that could get it. The problem is it needs to look at the symbol table, and I dont know how to get at that via C -- ie, gdb doesnt have an interface that I know of that you can link in to grab a stack trace and exit. If you don't think a core dump is going to be useful, gdb isn't going to be either. I know I have gotten Zope to dump core before, and I think I did this with -Z '', i.e. don't start a management process. Then you need some other way to start Zope when it dies. As for ZMySQLDA/MySQLdb, I do know that the MySQL client libraries will crash if you try use the same connection more than once simultaneously in two different threads. I have never quite been sure whether or not there is some kind of locking in Zope to prevent threads from simultaneously using two database connections, since I expect this would cause problems on virtually all implementations. -- Andy Dustman PGP: 0x930B8AB6 @ .net http://dustman.net/andy You can have my keys when you pry them from my dead, cold neurons. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:52:06 +0100, MANOTTI Alessandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). Yes, the SQL driver abstraction layer is slower than it could be. Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] reduce() doesn't work in Python Scripts
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Brad Clements wrote: In Zope 2.4.3 binary on Linux import operator reduce(operator.add,[0,1,2,3,4]) try _.reduce() gives me Error Value: global name 'reduce' is not defined this shkould be clear enough as a message. zope can't find the reduce function. Is this a faq? probably. have fun, Sloot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] reduce() doesn't work in Python Scripts
On 6 Dec 2001 at 16:12, Romain Slootmaekers wrote: reduce(operator.add,[0,1,2,3,4]) try _.reduce() This is in a Python Script, I'm not using the DTML namespace. Note that map() and filter() work without a problem, so why not reduce() ? this shkould be clear enough as a message. zope can't find the reduce function. right, but it can find the other built-in functions okay. Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED] (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZGDChart-0.6.2.babel restarts my Zope
Yo, I installed ZGDChart and was playing around with it. cool stuff... But I came across this problem: at first, everything worked fine, but know, whenever I try to view a chart, my zope server restarts. no messages what so ever. I tried the test.py that came with ZGDChart , and that seems to work fine. I don't have a clue on how to tackle this problem except for adding print 'cucu' lines all over the ZGDChart code :( I have a 2.4.0b3 built from source and a 2.1 python (if this might help) Anyone any ideas ?? TIA, Sloot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: hooking up gdb (was Re: [Zope-dev] More signal 11 restarts....)
Andy Dustman wrote: If you don't think a core dump is going to be useful, gdb isn't going to be either. Well, the problem is on Linux, the core file is from the process that received the SIG11, not the one that caused it, in most cases (due to the way Linux implements threads). To the best of my knowledge, the core does NOT contain the necessary registers of the remaining threads; thus gdb can't show you which thread dumped core. However, attaching gdb to the running zope usually does work, since gdb can inspect the processes when they are running to get the thread information. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] reduce() doesn't work in Python Scripts
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Brad Clements wrote: On 6 Dec 2001 at 16:12, Romain Slootmaekers wrote: reduce(operator.add,[0,1,2,3,4]) try _.reduce() This is in a Python Script, I'm not using the DTML namespace. Note that map() and filter() work without a problem, so why not reduce() ? this shkould be clear enough as a message. zope can't find the reduce function. right, but it can find the other built-in functions okay. try in your script: print filter return printed and after that works function guarded_filter at ... try : print reduce return printed someone probably just forgot to implement the guarded_reduce method ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] reduce() doesn't work in Python Scripts
indeed. in lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py the guarded_reduce isn't there those who are are: ['cmp', 'round', 'AttributeError', 'random', 'str', 'range', 'ArithmeticError', 'whrandom', 'unichr', 'list', 'FloatingPointError', 'getattr', 'hasattr', 'setattr', 'IndexError', 'TypeError', 'delattr', 'AssertionError', 'divmod', 'ord', 'ZeroDivisionError', '__import__', 'callable', 'len', 'repr', 'max', 'tuple', 'StandardError', 'string', 'hash', 'isinstance', 'Exception', 'map', 'math', 'oct', 'OverflowError', 'IOError', 'test', 'filter', 'abs', 'chr', 'NameError', 'long', 'hex', 'complex', 'EOFError', 'min', 'reorder', 'OSError', 'same_type', 'RuntimeError', 'LookupError', 'apply', 'EnvironmentError', 'unicode', 'ValueError', 'issubclass', 'ImportError', 'None', 'KeyError', 'float', 'SyntaxError', 'pow', 'int', 'sequence', 'DateTime'] In retrospect, I should have posted only 1 message instead of 3 :) Sloot. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] getPhysicalPath differs for function vs. __getattr__
Sorry the subject is not so discriptive, but here is the issue I am dealing with. I wonder whether this has to do with the way Zope deals with objects or has something to do with Python: I have an Python Product class Object. With the following bits of code, I get different results from a dtml-var, depending on what I use. class Object(PropertyManager, Implicit, Item): def get_path(self): Return a path to myself path=string.join(self.getPhysicalPath()[1:], '/') return path def __getattr(self, attr): Return a path to myself if attr == 'path': path=string.join(self.getPhysicalPath()[1:], '/') return path else: raise AttributeError, attr Now the following two dtml tags yield: dtml-var get_path() = /path/to/object dtml-var path = object Hopefully you see what I mean. Why does this happen? Can I put it in the collector as a bug? TIA, Ziniti ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed
what i have done before to get around the speed penalty is to create an external method. the external method calls the ZSQL method directly and iterates over the result objects to pull out all interesting attributes and stick them into simple python objects, in this case i returned a list of dictionaries from the external method. in DTML the iteration over it still looks the same but it was much faster because there is no security enforced on the simple python objects returned from the external method. jens On Thursday, December 6, 2001, at 09:33 , MANOTTI Alessandro wrote: Thank you for your suggestions (thanks to Matt). I will try to make smaller but more requests (1000 requests of 1000 records). I will even try to bypass Zope and write an external method in Python (I know Pytho very well). About this solution: can you tell me what I have to do to use ZOracle directly in Python (import ... ? ) ? Thanks to everybody! -Original Message- From: Matthew T. Kromer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 15:27 To: MANOTTI Alessandro; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed Hi Alessandro, Zope and Python combined aren't too bad if you write some wrappers that help you manipulate data; the problem comes about when you try to do large naive queries -- there is a LOT of overhead in taking Oracle data, encapsulating it in Python objects, and then wrapping that in the Zope machinery. I have a sample database in Oracle of US Zip codes -- it has about 45,000 records in it. I can pull this into DCOracle2 on the C adapter side (dco2.so) in less than a second. However, wrapping each result cell in a python object blows that up into about 9 seconds. If I were to iterate over the whole thing in Zope (which I haven't timed) it would get a LOT longer, because Zope is enforcing policy on every object accessed. So, one of the ways to make that go faster is to use python modules 'outside' of Zope (ie external methods) to perform large calculations which takes a ZOracleDA connection object to get a cursor object on the database, does the query directly, and formats and returns the results. I realize this isn't ideal, but Zope is not optimized for the case of extract thousands of records from the database and format them in a huge table. Zope likes extract hundreds of records from the database and format them in a big table instead. With each release, Zope has more features that enable you to program through the web, but when you're doing performance intensive calculations, it's usually time to write a python module and plug it in to zope (via an external method, or by writing a product). If you have the time to learn, I suggest the product route as being more satisfying, but it can be more frustrating as well. - Original Message - From: MANOTTI Alessandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope server speed HI all, I have a problem: my company is looking for an application server. I know Zope (I presented it), and a friend of mine presented Macromedia ColdFusion. We made some tests about the speed of the systems, arghh!!! Zope is VERY slow compared to ColdFusion! Some examples: I used Zope with DCOracle2 drivers to connect and extract 257000 (yes! it is a test... two hundred fiftyseven thousand records!) and Zope took more than 10 minutes, since I stopped it after that time (call SQL and print data via dtml-var ... TAG). The same PC, the same server, ColdFusion took about 2 minutes to complete the operation!!! Coldfusion is more than 5 times faster than Zope!!! PHASE 2: I said: ok, maybe Zope is slower that Coldfusion in TAG formatting... and I tried to get the records and perform a calculation, without no output... Sigh! the results are the same! I am depressed, since I talk about Zope very well in my company, but now... Coldfusion and Zope are similar, so we shall select ColdFusion to develop web applications. SIGH !!! Can I try something to increase Zope power?! Alessandro Manotti Presidente dell'Associazione RIUSA Sito web: http://riusa.apritisesamo.net email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
Re: [Zope-dev] ZGDChart-0.6.2.babel restarts my Zope
At 04:19 PM 12/6/2001 +0100, Romain Slootmaekers wrote: I have a 2.4.0b3 built from source and a 2.1 python (if this might help) I think you should at least try a stable Zope release. Best would be 2.4.3 of course. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development Technical Project Management ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] getPhysicalPath differs for function vs. __getattr__
__getattr__ gets the 'true self' as argument while other methods always get an acquisition wrapped self, this is by design. Usually it's not a good idea to override __getattr__ of acquisition aware objects. - Original Message - From: John Ziniti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] getPhysicalPath differs for function vs. __getattr__ Sorry the subject is not so discriptive, but here is the issue I am dealing with. I wonder whether this has to do with the way Zope deals with objects or has something to do with Python: I have an Python Product class Object. With the following bits of code, I get different results from a dtml-var, depending on what I use. class Object(PropertyManager, Implicit, Item): def get_path(self): Return a path to myself path=string.join(self.getPhysicalPath()[1:], '/') return path def __getattr(self, attr): Return a path to myself if attr == 'path': path=string.join(self.getPhysicalPath()[1:], '/') return path else: raise AttributeError, attr Now the following two dtml tags yield: dtml-var get_path() = /path/to/object dtml-var path = object Hopefully you see what I mean. Why does this happen? Can I put it in the collector as a bug? TIA, Ziniti ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Integrating mailman with Zope?
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:33:41 - Adrian Hungate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been away and I am only just catching up with Zope-dev. I have been working on a ZCGI product for a long time, but I keep getting stuck when I try to port it to Windows (No pipes - No nothing in fact) :( I'm afraid my solution won't help there. I basically just rewrote the standard Python popen library (to pass the environment to the CGI script), and haven't tested it on Windows. I'll send you my code separately so you can see what I've done. BTW, the project page for EcoAccess is on SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ecoaccess All of our code is in our CVS repository there (drop me an e-mail if you need help finding it). If you want to look at the code, drop me a line Sure, that would be great. Can you send me what you have? Thanks! Fred - Original Message - From: Fred Wilson Horch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] Integrating mailman with Zope? Hi everybody, After a hiatus on our project to integrate Mailman and Zope 2.3.x here at EcoAccess, we're about to tackle it again. Has anyone out there tried this already? Last we heard, Mailman was a standalone CGI program, and in order to make it work with Zope you had to run both Mailman and Zope behind another web server (such as Apache). What we're planning to do is write a CGI product for Zope 2.3.3 so that we can run CGI programs with ZServer under Zope, eliminating the need to set up and configure Apache or any other web server. If you've already written a CGI Zope product (i.e., a product that lets you run CGI programs from any Zope folder), please let me know! Otherwise, I'll continue the experiments. ;-) Best regards, Fred -- Fred Wilson Horch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Executive Director, EcoAccess http://ecoaccess.org/ P.O. Box 2823, Durham, NC 27715-2823 phone: 919.419-8567 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Fred Wilson Horch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Executive Director, EcoAccess http://ecoaccess.org/ P.O. Box 2823, Durham, NC 27715-2823phone: 919.419-8567 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
From: Dirk Datzert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Normally your data will be stored in the ZODB ZBabelTower Fine, but that is also useless for translating Zope core, unfortunately. It is good for translating webpages though, so both this and storing it on the filesystem must be availiable, simultaneously in the translating system. How does Localizer store the translated strings? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Competition
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Chris Withers wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: And they have their own issues, what with needing to make money out of Zope, which means intrinsically that all of us outside of Zope Corp are in competition with them. No that is not true. In Germany for example, noone feels in competition with Zope Corp., since they are not even looking for projects there. Yet ;-) I don't know why people assume that competition=difficult to work together. One of our closest competitors in the ISP business is also one of our closest collaborators. True, our primary markets have different centers, but they do overlap considerably, especially when it comes to the higher end customers. I see the competition between ZC and other Zope solution providers, not to mention *between* the other solution providers, as a good thing. It keeps us all on our toes. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
Lennart Regebro schrieb: From: Dirk Datzert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Normally your data will be stored in the ZODB ZBabelTower Fine, but that is also useless for translating Zope core, Why ? I dont't understand this ! I have translated thr OFS of Zope on my system working very well. unfortunately. It is good for translating webpages though, so both this and storing it on the filesystem must be availiable, simultaneously in the translating system. How does Localizer store the translated strings? I thing that the store ist only filesystem based. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Competition
I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /---\ Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] \---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
From: Dirk Datzert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennart Regebro schrieb: Fine, but that is also useless for translating Zope core, Why ? I dont't understand this ! I have translated thr OFS of Zope on my system working very well. Because if you delete the Data.fs the translations go away. If you have multiple installations of Zope, and you need to change one translation, you would have to update each instance. If you upgrade Zope, new translations would not appear, and so on. Not very practical. :-) The translation of Zope, and also of other products that you install, need to be a part of Zope or the products. When you install a product, the translations should be installed at the same time. I thing that the store ist only filesystem based. Well, then the war between Localizer and ZBabel will end right here and right now. :-) Both solutions are needed for an integration of internationalization in Zope. Both products/methods should be integrated into one product for Zope 2.5 and the inserted into the Zope3 core when the bugs are removed. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
Lennart Regebro schrieb: From: Dirk Datzert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lennart Regebro schrieb: Fine, but that is also useless for translating Zope core, Why ? I dont't understand this ! I have translated thr OFS of Zope on my system working very well. Because if you delete the Data.fs the translations go away. If you have multiple installations of Zope, and you need to change one translation, you would have to update each instance. For this update is a mechanims on XML-RPC design. There will be a ZBabelMasterTower on the internet where you can download any translation which is available on the net. Simple click on synchronize and thats it. If you upgrade Zope, new translations would not appear, and so on. Not very practical. :-) The translation of Zope, and also of other products that you install, need to be a part of Zope or the products. When you install a product, the translations should be installed at the same time. I thing that the store ist only filesystem based. Well, then the war between Localizer and ZBabel will end right here and right now. :-) Both solutions are needed for an integration of internationalization in Zope. Both products/methods should be integrated into one product for Zope 2.5 and the inserted into the Zope3 core when the bugs are removed. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZCatalog
Hi, I'm looking for a howto or a hint for fuzzy search in german and english with ZCatalog / CatalogQuery Can anybody sent me a URL ? Thanks Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: core i18n support
Because if you delete the Data.fs the translations go away. If you have multiple installations of Zope, and you need to change one translation, you would have to update each instance. If you upgrade Zope, new translations would not appear, and so on. Not very practical. :-) Agreed; therefore the next version of ZBabel will come wit facilities that handle that/ The translation of Zope, and also of other products that you install, need to be a part of Zope or the products. When you install a product, the translations should be installed at the same time. Well, no. Because then the products would get too large. The better approach is to allow an online sync, again, which comes with the next ZBabel version. I thing that the store ist only filesystem based. Well, then the war between Localizer and ZBabel will end right here and right now. :-) Both solutions are needed for an integration of internationalization in Zope. Both products/methods should be integrated into one product for Zope 2.5 and the inserted into the Zope3 core when the bugs are removed. Well, all the i18n developers will have a meeting early January in Europe with Jim Fulton in a 2-day brainstorming session. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development Technical Project Management ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog
what do you mean by fuzzy? Do you mean with wildcards, NL, or something else? -Original Message- From: Dirk Datzert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Hi, I'm looking for a howto or a hint for fuzzy search in german and english with ZCatalog / CatalogQuery Can anybody sent me a URL ? Thanks Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] RAMCacheManager and gzip
Just to let you know, I am looking at patching ZServer using my PatchKit
product to do Content-Encoding: ... stuff... anyone interested in testing
when I get it running?
(Probably a couple of days before I get a running version...)
Adrian...
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Adrian Hungate
All views expressed in this email are those of the whole world, however some
people don't realise this yet.
- Original Message -
From: JanStiller T-Online [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:50 AM
Subject: [Zope-dev] RAMCacheManager and gzip
Hi,
Is it possible to marry the RAMCacheManager and gzip?
I'm just working on a little shop and - for speed's sake - do 'ram-cache'
the article-listings and push all the Zope-Content through mod_gzip. With
this combination, I'm getting it 3x faster in Zope and 5x faster over the
wire (normally 64k). That's great so far. But I don't see any sense in
zipping cached content over and over, so I tried to zip the cached data in
RAMCacheManager. In my first attempt, i replaced:
ZCache_get (RAMCacheManager.py):
entry.access_count = entry.access_count + 1
return entry.data
with:
entry.access_count = entry.access_count + 1
ob.REQUEST.RESPONSE.setHeader('Content-Encoding','compress')
return zlib.compress(entry.data)
The results:
1.
This works with Mozilla 0.96 only for very small entry.data. When I set
entry.data to 'XX', it works, but any real page gets
'htmlbody/html/body' as the result.
2.
This doesn't seem work in IE alltogether. (with 'Content-Encoding: gzip' -
zlib.compress != gzip!?)
I'm willing to spend some days of work for this feature, but although I
have
2 years experience in Python I'm quite new to Zope and Internet-RFC's
and this is definitely a point, where I would appreciate some hints from
more experienced Zope-programmers (or a product, of course -- or the
statement, that this won't be possible... ;o)
regards
Jan Stiller
P.S. sorry, if my words seems a bit confused, I'm more used to reading
than
writing english...
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog
the search engine htdig has a fuzzy feature which automatically search for different endings or alternative spelling of a word, based on the ispell algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: what do you mean by fuzzy? Do you mean with wildcards, NL, or something else? -Original Message- From: Dirk Datzert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog Hi, I'm looking for a howto or a hint for fuzzy search in german and english with ZCatalog / CatalogQuery Can anybody sent me a URL ? Thanks Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog
Personally, I am of the opinion that sending a Catalog raw queries is not
very useful for really powerful searching... hopefully this changes in the
future, but for now...
Since catalog doesn't have anything built-in that does this, other than
globbing vocabularies, you have to do this within your appliction. What you
want to do is hijack and rewrite user queries before sending them through a
catalog query... for example:
word = 'dancing'
newword = re.sub('ing$', '*', word)
#newword is now 'danc*' which
This would work with plural words as well, as long as you have a useful set
of patterns for word endings...
For alternate spellings, abbreviations, and synonyms you would need to
create lookup tables and indexed methods that took advantage of them for
text indexes. This works only for text indexes though...
In summary, use query rewrites for word endings and auto-wildcarding (the
work is done at search time)... and use methods that weight and translate
your text in your product code (the work is done at index time)...
Sean
-Original Message-
From: Dirk Datzert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog
the search engine htdig has a fuzzy feature which automatically search for
different endings or alternative spelling of a word, based on the ispell
algorithm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
what do you mean by fuzzy? Do you mean with wildcards, NL, or something
else?
-Original Message-
From: Dirk Datzert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog
Hi,
I'm looking for a howto or a hint for fuzzy search in german and english
with ZCatalog / CatalogQuery
Can anybody sent me a URL ?
Thanks
Dirk
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Re: [Zope-dev] Competition
I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. --- Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /---\ Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] \---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Competition
Uh, this is brand clarification... Sometimes people (well, people who don't pay enough attention) don't get that company X is associated with product Y. Look what happend to Borland when they changed their name to Inprise but kept the old product names. For those folks who don't pay attention to every detail of goings on in the Zope community, or are not subscribed to lists, or are new to Zope, I imagine that a name discrepancy could be confusing... I hope you aren't saying that basic, well thought-out, marketing strategies are somehow predatory behavior? Let's not even try to compare this to hijacking in the style of a certain Redmond-based company. Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:57 PM To: Casey Duncan; R. David Murray; Chris Withers Cc: Stephan Richter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Competition I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. --- Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /---\ Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] \---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Competition
No I am not implying anything other then there is competition in the Zope marketplace and ZC has positioned itself to be the one that ends up with the most beans. This is what makes the free market work and I would do the same thing if I was in their shoes. However, I am not in their shoes, and therefore don't want to brand their company and don't want to add my beans to their pile of beans. Thats all I was saying. Clark --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, this is brand clarification... Sometimes people (well, people who don't pay enough attention) don't get that company X is associated with product Y. Look what happend to Borland when they changed their name to Inprise but kept the old product names. For those folks who don't pay attention to every detail of goings on in the Zope community, or are not subscribed to lists, or are new to Zope, I imagine that a name discrepancy could be confusing... I hope you aren't saying that basic, well thought-out, marketing strategies are somehow predatory behavior? Let's not even try to compare this to hijacking in the style of a certain Redmond-based company. Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:57 PM To: Casey Duncan; R. David Murray; Chris Withers Cc: Stephan Richter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Competition I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. --- Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /--- Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Competition
On Friday 07 December 2001 12:57, Clark O'Brien wrote: I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. Clarifying a brand. Starting as Digital Creations gives you the flexibility to explore more fields than Zope. Once you start putting all your (and other people's) money on that one horse, you make sure everyone knows who's the jockey. That's how it's done. hth, Danny ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Competition
I'm going to suggest that this is off-topic for zope-dev, as this is a list fostering cooperation among developers who do not mind sharing their 'beans' and who do not hold the delusions of conspiracy theory. If you are not willing to play by the ad-hoc cooperative social contract of this development community, please go away. This is my last post on this matter, and I suggest others follow suit. Anyway, you do know all kinds of embarrassing health problems can happen from hoarding beans, don't you? Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Competition No I am not implying anything other then there is competition in the Zope marketplace and ZC has positioned itself to be the one that ends up with the most beans. This is what makes the free market work and I would do the same thing if I was in their shoes. However, I am not in their shoes, and therefore don't want to brand their company and don't want to add my beans to their pile of beans. Thats all I was saying. Clark --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, this is brand clarification... Sometimes people (well, people who don't pay enough attention) don't get that company X is associated with product Y. Look what happend to Borland when they changed their name to Inprise but kept the old product names. For those folks who don't pay attention to every detail of goings on in the Zope community, or are not subscribed to lists, or are new to Zope, I imagine that a name discrepancy could be confusing... I hope you aren't saying that basic, well thought-out, marketing strategies are somehow predatory behavior? Let's not even try to compare this to hijacking in the style of a certain Redmond-based company. Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:57 PM To: Casey Duncan; R. David Murray; Chris Withers Cc: Stephan Richter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Competition I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. --- Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /--- Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: hooking up gdb is the problem, not scripting it (Re: hooking up gdb)
Leonardo Rochael Almeida writes: The tricky part is convincing gdb to hook up to python when the sig 11 hits. Isn't there a trap instruction somewhere where I could tell python to run an external script when hit by a sig11? That's what I meant From gdb online help: (gdb) help stop There is no `stop' command, but you can set a hook on `stop'. This allows you to set a list of commands to be run each time execution of the program stops. Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Competition
Cool your heals dude. You said your 2 cents I said my 2 cents. good enough. Clark --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to suggest that this is off-topic for zope-dev, as this is a list fostering cooperation among developers who do not mind sharing their 'beans' and who do not hold the delusions of conspiracy theory. If you are not willing to play by the ad-hoc cooperative social contract of this development community, please go away. This is my last post on this matter, and I suggest others follow suit. Anyway, you do know all kinds of embarrassing health problems can happen from hoarding beans, don't you? Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Competition No I am not implying anything other then there is competition in the Zope marketplace and ZC has positioned itself to be the one that ends up with the most beans. This is what makes the free market work and I would do the same thing if I was in their shoes. However, I am not in their shoes, and therefore don't want to brand their company and don't want to add my beans to their pile of beans. Thats all I was saying. Clark --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, this is brand clarification... Sometimes people (well, people who don't pay enough attention) don't get that company X is associated with product Y. Look what happend to Borland when they changed their name to Inprise but kept the old product names. For those folks who don't pay attention to every detail of goings on in the Zope community, or are not subscribed to lists, or are new to Zope, I imagine that a name discrepancy could be confusing... I hope you aren't saying that basic, well thought-out, marketing strategies are somehow predatory behavior? Let's not even try to compare this to hijacking in the style of a certain Redmond-based company. Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:57 PM To: Casey Duncan; R. David Murray; Chris Withers Cc: Stephan Richter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Competition I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the marketplace. --- Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its only competition in the same sense as I am competing with all of you for oxygen. Let's call it coopetition. /--- Casey Duncan, Sr. Web Developer National Legal Aid and Defender Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Competition
S, We're eating... Danny On Friday 07 December 2001 13:43, Clark O'Brien wrote: No I am not implying anything other then there is competition in the Zope marketplace and ZC has positioned itself to be the one that ends up with the most beans. This is what makes the free market work and I would do the same thing if I was in their shoes. However, I am not in their shoes, and therefore don't want to brand their company and don't want to add my beans to their pile of beans. Thats all I was saying. Clark ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] New Security Rules ... are very frustrating
Hello everyone, I have a major issue with the new security. Let's say I have class X (a nice Zopish object) and an object Y. class X: Y = Y Now, I am still able to access Y in an instance of X, like: x = X() x.Y but I am not able to access method do_z() anymore. x.Y.do_z() BTW, Y is not a nice Zope object but an instance from anywhere. And setting __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ does not help much either and it should not be the final solution anyway. Can anyone help? Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development Technical Project Management ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
