Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 00:17, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: - breaking the historic URLs for no purpose is lame, and would cause useless pain to people with older installations that rely on them (Yes, Virginia, there were automated buildouts before zc.buildout). True. Can we have the old download URL's still there, but redirect or link to PyPI from the web? - PyPI is the canonical download location for the current releases: launchpad should just be pointing there. +1 I think also we should not on PyPI hide all releases except the latest one. The download box should contain at minimum all supported releases, preferrably the last of each major version (within reason). //Lennart ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On 2011-6-29 03:02, Johannes Raggam wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 18:17 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/28/2011 01:28 PM, Johannes Raggam wrote: there is a different version set on zope.org and launchpad. on http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/swpackage_releases there are zope 2.8.12, 2.9.12, 2.10.13 and 2.11.8 available, where on launchpad they are not. [...] - PyPI is the canonical download location for the current releases: launchpad should just be pointing there. thats the case since Zope 2.12. older releases aren't there. i think that launchpad should have all releases available, which are listed on zope.org. My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. I would agree that it would be nice to have a single location that lists historic releases, I would expect that to be on zope.org instead of launchpad or some other random third party website. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 08:51 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. I would agree that it would be nice to have a single location that lists historic releases, I would expect that to be on zope.org instead of launchpad or some other random third party website. I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K0rcACgkQRAx5nvEhZLLQNQCgs9fEiTTgxcYRplJ7Gv5054X7 f64AoJk9WX/mksfR6GR3hBjG3epgGTCh =W1wc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. Actually PyPI is the only canonical location for the eggified releases of Zope2. - -aj -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJOCuA/AAoJEADcfz7u4AZj0P8Lvin2YBANtR+j1hz5zhkmAVNZ PYov+wrki/mhI6thaD2j4teyz/3lxmm/8Vm5xm9gix0M0o9m7EHLyiAAJ4shP1Wn Xf3911JzGcJW453Sny3Y7S6ZiVIUrSgSkLSD8MtIAePkppD2g/GKnSenK4POOMuo FYCie9kYgqtdA9wH2c9NLczvSgU+WGhWZpOMAaA2XzcaEtDsMxfyHhkCwa4Y6nQ0 27Mv0BiUwEaEWznl/Yort7WJL78QEvoY87Yda3vynfgnogWZrmvMWuK0mj98X8QK SZ1bLUPw2+pvK0tMacKi0INDw8fzX09Qp54l8GQFLZ3JiDfN9LqDvHwl6wYyjHU+ OQ8RJBx9/Rn190CwoXIcnHqVbh0zuvuW5tmysb2f+XYoVcdySFkLDJyHUSJRLd1J 6NRhKJ+WSA75AGK6KmF77Fl/WHJqtZYK0gHeZvy900dMSc7f3Sd/e0HNMd8OJ/8R q/yM6WWNg6tKpuvWxWPq0oRwq8hGA7w= =uyQk -END PGP SIGNATURE- attachment: lists.vcf___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:20 , Andreas Jung wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations. Actually PyPI is the only canonical location for the eggified releases of Zope2. Even better to have just one. The only use case that's not obviously covered is an up-to-date list of old releases. zope2.zope.org appears to advertise itself as that place (see http://zope2.zope.org/releases). jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K4YcACgkQRAx5nvEhZLKlGQCfaJ+I/SgKTQS06s3UWxVtyqWu PH0AnjDks9bRYb6GISq36XkzQacnEykZ =BS2C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. We did upload all non-egg Zope2 releases to https://launchpad.net/zope2/+download but not the latest ones. That's a bit confusing. Either we remove the downloads from launchpad or we make sure it has all of the old ones. I don't care either way for this historical stuff. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:34 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad has never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. We did upload all non-egg Zope2 releases to https://launchpad.net/zope2/+download but not the latest ones. That's a bit confusing. Either we remove the downloads from launchpad or we make sure it has all of the old ones. +1 for removing. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk4K6M8ACgkQRAx5nvEhZLLShACeOmY5WCssNFfUZLJiY6Z5hcad RgIAnRzUB2gJHz9bsrhnU48HqORyEZr0 =TzeY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zc.async.queue.DispatcherAgents last_ping
Hi Gary, or any other zc.async developer, we use zc.async in one site and I noticed there's a hell of a lot of write transactions caused by it. Every 30 seconds there's a zope.minmax.Maximum() by the name of last_ping stored. It looks like this is coming from zc.async.queue.DispatcherAgents and the 30 seconds are a result of a class variable stating: ping_interval = datetime.timedelta(seconds=30) I tried to understand what this last_ping is used for and it seems to have to do with detection of dead workers. Is that indeed the only thing it's used for? If so can we change it in our setup to be 15 minutes instead without any big problems (other than potentially not having any active worker for 15 minutes)? Ideally I'd like to get avoid storing such information in the ZODB at all and would much prefer a volatile attribute, a thread local or something on the filesystem. But maybe I'm missing something here were this information needs to be shared across workers running on different machines. While the size of the transaction is only 140 bytes each, the overhead of new transactions is massive. Any insights appreciated, Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zc.async.queue.DispatcherAgents last_ping
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Ideally I'd like to get avoid storing such information in the ZODB at all and would much prefer a volatile attribute, a thread local or something on the filesystem. But maybe I'm missing something here were this information needs to be shared across workers running on different machines. I do believe that's the case. Increasing the period is probably safe. Another strategy you can employ is to use a separate database for the zc.async bookkeeping; that could have different pack policies or a completely different storage implementation. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fdrake at acm.org Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities. --Frank Lloyd Wright ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 1, OK: 85
This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2011-06-28 00:00:00 UTC and 2011-06-29 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds. An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our buildbot documentation: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html#the-nightly-builds Reports received Bluebream / Python2.4.6 64bit linux Bluebream / Python2.5.5 64bit linux Bluebream / Python2.6.5 64bit linux ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.4.6 64bit linux Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.5.5 64bit linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-32bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-32bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-64bit-linux Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.6 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.7 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0_win-py2.4 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0_win-py2.5 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0_win-py2.6 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1_win-py2.5 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1_win-py2.6 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.5 slave-win Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.6 slave-win Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.13 Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.13-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-trunk Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32 [1]winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32 winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64 winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_11 py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_11 py_270_win32 winbot / ztk_11 py_270_win64 winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64 Non-OK results -- [1]FAILED winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-June/044495.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
