Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Ng Pheng Siong wrote: > > Actually I have wondered something about that... Why does it always show > > up as linux2 even when not on linux? I'm on FreeBSD using a compiled from > > source python and Zope and it still shows up as Linux. > > lib/python/version.txt > > Just edit it. This smells like a bug to me. If the software is compiled from source, I expect it to tell me what system/software it was *actually* compiled with, and in the case of python *actually* running on, not some string hardcoded into a text file. If the string is not dynamically generated, I'd rather it not lie; ie: it should just give the Zope version. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 11:15:49AM +0100, Matt Hamilton wrote: > > - the version.txt in lib/python/ says: > > Zope 2.4.0a1 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) > > which sounds a bit funny in my ears... Might be me, I dunno. > > Actually I have wondered something about that... Why does it always show > up as linux2 even when not on linux? I'm on FreeBSD using a compiled from > source python and Zope and it still shows up as Linux. lib/python/version.txt Just edit it. -- Ng Pheng Siong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * http://www.post1.com/home/ngps Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
Shane Hathaway wrote: > > by? > > BerkeleyDB3Storage. Actually, it hasn't. bsddb is no better at big files than FileStorage. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, > not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages... Just so there's no misunderstanding... BerkeleyStorage is in beta... it's at http://www.zope.org/Products/bsddb3Storage ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
marc lindahl wrote: > > >> Does anyone have any comments on the reliability of PartitionedFileStorage > >> in this regard as a temporary solution? Is anyone using > >> PartitionedFileStorage in a production environment? > > > > AFAIK no. Its functionality has already been superceded. > > by? BerkeleyDB3Storage. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
>> Does anyone have any comments on the reliability of PartitionedFileStorage >> in this regard as a temporary solution? Is anyone using >> PartitionedFileStorage in a production environment? > > AFAIK no. Its functionality has already been superceded. by? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy > somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this > somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), > to < 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, > not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages, though I haven't > tried anything like that myself... Berkeley is a good recommendation. > Does anyone have any comments on the reliability of PartitionedFileStorage > in this regard as a temporary solution? Is anyone using > PartitionedFileStorage in a production environment? AFAIK no. Its functionality has already been superceded. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
Lalo Martins wrote: > By "hoping that EC will go away soon", I assume they mean the > PythonLabs folks are working on fixing this for once in Python > itself. Right? That is correct. The point is, ExtensionClass machinery will go away but the functionality would remain, if Python changes in the future to make it unnecessary. --Paul ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
As one more example, Zope.org is currently at 4.8 Gb on FileStorage. --Paul "R. David Murray" wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy > > somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this > > somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), > > to < 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, > > not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages, though I haven't > > tried anything like that myself... > > FileStorage does *not* have a 2GB limit. The only 2GB limit is the old > Linux filesystem limit. I know this, because I've had >2GB Data.fs > files on FreeBSD. > > --RDM > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
Perhaps I was looking at old docs, as the docs had indicated that filestorage uses 32-bit position pointers; I'm guessing that this has since changed... Sean -Original Message- From: R. David Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy > somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this > somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), > to < 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, > not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages, though I haven't > tried anything like that myself... FileStorage does *not* have a 2GB limit. The only 2GB limit is the old Linux filesystem limit. I know this, because I've had >2GB Data.fs files on FreeBSD. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy > somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this > somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), > to < 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, > not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages, though I haven't > tried anything like that myself... FileStorage does *not* have a 2GB limit. The only 2GB limit is the old Linux filesystem limit. I know this, because I've had >2GB Data.fs files on FreeBSD. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
My impression is that FileStorage implements a 32-bit id-type-thingy somewhere (look at ZODB docs, I think there is something about this somewhere), which limits it (in addition to the Linux kernel ext2 fs limit), to < 2GB. With 7.5 GB, I'd use a more advanced storage like the new - well, not quite released ;) - Berkeley (libdb3 based) storages, though I haven't tried anything like that myself... Does anyone have any comments on the reliability of PartitionedFileStorage in this regard as a temporary solution? Is anyone using PartitionedFileStorage in a production environment? Sean -Original Message- From: Holger Lehmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:33 AM To: Brian Lloyd; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released Hi Brian, hi all, great to hear this. Now comes a tricky question: Suppose we are running a Linux Kernel 2.4.x and using the latest Python 2.x distribution. And supposing we can recompile all code if neccessary: How large can a Data.fs grow until it breaks ? We need to be able to store about 7.5 GBytes (note: Gigabytes) in the ZODB. I would rather use the ZODB than a LocalFS Thanks in advance - Holger Am Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2001 22:55 schrieb Brian Lloyd: > Hello all, > > Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from > Zope.org: > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/ > > > Highlights of what is new in Zope 2.4: > > - Zope 2.4 supports (and requires) Python 2.1 > > - New restricted execution architecture > > - WebDAV Level 2 locking support > > - New "WebDAV Access" permission > > - A new built-in 'Authenticated' role > > - Product refresh without restart during development > > - New "Drop-in indexes" support for ZCatalog > > > Be sure to see the Zope 2.4 Migration Guide: > >http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0/Zope24MigrationGuide.html > > which outlines the new features and provides other important > information for users of Zope 2.4. > > For more information on what is new in this release, see the > CHANGES.txt and HISTORY.txt files for the release: > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/CHANGES.txt > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/HISTORY.txt > > For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for > selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, > please see: > > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html > > Note that this is an alpha release, so it is available as a source > distribution only. We will make binary releases available with the > first beta release. > > > Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Software Engineer 540.371.6909 > Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com > > > > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- --- catWorkX GmbH Dipl.-Ing. Holger Lehmann Stresemannstr. 364 22761 Hamburg Tel: +49 (0700) catWorkX Tel: +49 (40) 890 646-0 Fax: +49 (40) 890 646-66 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.catworkx.de http://www.catbridge.de ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
> - the version.txt in lib/python/ says: > Zope 2.4.0a1 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) > which sounds a bit funny in my ears... Might be me, I dunno. Actually I have wondered something about that... Why does it always show up as linux2 even when not on linux? I'm on FreeBSD using a compiled from source python and Zope and it still shows up as Linux. -Matt -- Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd. Business Vision on the Internet http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Hosting | Web Design | Domain Names | Co-location | DB Integration ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
On Thu, 31 May 2001, Brian Lloyd wrote: > Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from > Zope.org: Cool stuff. I have a couple of comments, though. For future ref., should I post them to the Collector? - lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/__init__.py is missing the ZPL - why is Catalog.gif in Products/ZCatalog and not in Products/ZCatalog/www like ZCatalog.gif? - the version.txt in lib/python/ says: Zope 2.4.0a1 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) which sounds a bit funny in my ears... Might be me, I dunno. The biggest one is the fact that I can't build it, but I think that's a problem with my Python installation. Once I've got it up and running I might do some actual testing, which I'm looking forward to! :) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
Hi Brian, hi all, great to hear this. Now comes a tricky question: Suppose we are running a Linux Kernel 2.4.x and using the latest Python 2.x distribution. And supposing we can recompile all code if neccessary: How large can a Data.fs grow until it breaks ? We need to be able to store about 7.5 GBytes (note: Gigabytes) in the ZODB. I would rather use the ZODB than a LocalFS Thanks in advance - Holger Am Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2001 22:55 schrieb Brian Lloyd: > Hello all, > > Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from > Zope.org: > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/ > > > Highlights of what is new in Zope 2.4: > > - Zope 2.4 supports (and requires) Python 2.1 > > - New restricted execution architecture > > - WebDAV Level 2 locking support > > - New "WebDAV Access" permission > > - A new built-in 'Authenticated' role > > - Product refresh without restart during development > > - New "Drop-in indexes" support for ZCatalog > > > Be sure to see the Zope 2.4 Migration Guide: > >http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0/Zope24MigrationGuide.html > > which outlines the new features and provides other important > information for users of Zope 2.4. > > For more information on what is new in this release, see the > CHANGES.txt and HISTORY.txt files for the release: > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/CHANGES.txt > > http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/HISTORY.txt > > For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for > selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, > please see: > > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html > > Note that this is an alpha release, so it is available as a source > distribution only. We will make binary releases available with the > first beta release. > > > Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Software Engineer 540.371.6909 > Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com > > > > > ___ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- --- catWorkX GmbH Dipl.-Ing. Holger Lehmann Stresemannstr. 364 22761 Hamburg Tel: +49 (0700) catWorkX Tel: +49 (40) 890 646-0 Fax: +49 (40) 890 646-66 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.catworkx.de http://www.catbridge.de ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 07:33:43AM +1000, Albert Langer wrote: > > "A note to component developers - as of Zope 2.4 ExtensionClass has not been > updated to support all of the new "magic protocols" that Python classes > support (we're hoping that EC will go away soon)." > > What does "hoping that EC will go away soon" mean? I thought that > ExtensionClass was pretty > fundamental to Zope?? Does this just mean that the limitation on "magic > protocols" will go away soon, or is there some URL I should look at re > replacement for EC? EC are a fix for a problem that shouldn't exist in Python (inability to inherit from classes defined in C/C++). By "hoping that EC will go away soon", I assume they mean the PythonLabs folks are working on fixing this for once in Python itself. Right? []s, |alo + -- I say a prayer now our love's departed That you'll come back to stay Bring back the perfect day http://www.laranja.org/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key: http://www.laranja.org/pessoal/pgp Brazil of Darkness (RPG) --- http://www.BroDar.org/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
[Brian] Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/ [...] Note that this is an alpha release, so it is available as a source distribution only. We will make binary releases available with the first beta release. [Albert] Congratulations!!! Two questions: 1. Any guesstimate (vague upper and lower bounds) on first beta release for the binaries, (or even just a vague lower bound - "probably not before ...")? 2. In the Migration Guide: "A note to component developers - as of Zope 2.4 ExtensionClass has not been updated to support all of the new "magic protocols" that Python classes support (we're hoping that EC will go away soon)." What does "hoping that EC will go away soon" mean? I thought that ExtensionClass was pretty fundamental to Zope?? Does this just mean that the limitation on "magic protocols" will go away soon, or is there some URL I should look at re replacement for EC? Thanks, and congratulations again. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 released
Hello all, Zope 2.4.0 alpha 1 has been released - you can download it from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/ Highlights of what is new in Zope 2.4: - Zope 2.4 supports (and requires) Python 2.1 - New restricted execution architecture - WebDAV Level 2 locking support - New "WebDAV Access" permission - A new built-in 'Authenticated' role - Product refresh without restart during development - New "Drop-in indexes" support for ZCatalog Be sure to see the Zope 2.4 Migration Guide: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0/Zope24MigrationGuide.html which outlines the new features and provides other important information for users of Zope 2.4. For more information on what is new in this release, see the CHANGES.txt and HISTORY.txt files for the release: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/CHANGES.txt http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.4.0a1/HISTORY.txt For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, please see: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html Note that this is an alpha release, so it is available as a source distribution only. We will make binary releases available with the first beta release. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer 540.371.6909 Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
