Re: [Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Martin Aspeli wrote:
  Surely there must be a way to say I want to use THAT KGS over there.
  Except for this module, that should hav this version. And of course,
  all these bunch of eggs which isn't dfined in that KGS at all.
 
  Unfortunately, this is not how the index works in setuptools.

 Which is why I think the index-page KGS solution is largely unusable for
 the projects I work in. :-/

See my new response to Lennart.

 Can you please also confirm something for me - if I use the Zope KGS
 index page, and I also need a package from the Cheese Shop, and the
 Cheese Shop contains newer (not-good) versions of packages that are also
 in the KGS index, will setuptools/buildout use the one from the KGS
 without a narrow version spec in my egg dependencies?

The KGS publishes all versions of all PyPI packages that are not controlled. 
That index is updated every minute.

Regards,
Stephan
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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Roger Ineichen wrote:
Before KGS there was no concept for keep the eggs in sync. Each project 
has to do it by itself. KGS at least is something that helps to manage 
the zope eggs. Everything outside this has to be done by the release 
manager of the project.


And before the KGS, the cheesshop was nothing else then a 
different concept for get packages.


The reason why is; 
Fixing revision numbers in packages does not work!!!


Fixing version will make it impossible to use it as base
and mix other packge into a setup. Because of the potential
conflicting packages you will mixin.


I think we're now quite aware of that problem. Hence we need the KGS. 
But I'm questioning the implementation using a locked down index.


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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 I think we're now quite aware of that problem. Hence we need the KGS.
 But I'm questioning the implementation using a locked down index.

What's the alternative? Nailing versions is not it for me, which by the way 
you can do with http://download.zope.org/Zope3.4/versions.cfg already. Can 
you specify multiple version URLs?

Regards,
Stephan
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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Martin Aspeli

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Friday 09 November 2007, Lennart Regebro wrote:

On Nov 9, 2007 4:06 PM, Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Create our own locked down index?

I think so because,

Surely there must be a way to say I want to use THAT KGS over there.
Except for this module, that should hav this version. And of course,
all these bunch of eggs which isn't dfined in that KGS at all.


Unfortunately, this is not how the index works in setuptools.


Which is why I think the index-page KGS solution is largely unusable for 
the projects I work in. :-/


Can you please also confirm something for me - if I use the Zope KGS 
index page, and I also need a package from the Cheese Shop, and the 
Cheese Shop contains newer (not-good) versions of packages that are also 
in the KGS index, will setuptools/buildout use the one from the KGS 
without a narrow version spec in my egg dependencies?


Martin

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want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book

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