Re: [Zope3-dev] i18n in ZPT half-broken?

2005-10-03 Thread Dmitry Vasiliev

Fred Drake wrote:

On 9/19/05, Jean-Marc Orliaguet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi! I'm having trouble getting strings to be translated using
tal:content=variable or tal:replace=variable


...


according to the documentation, i18n:translate= tal:content=...
should translate the evaluated content.


...


it works in Zope2, why is it different here?



This is a bug.  What version of Zope 3 are you using?  It would be
good if we could track down when the bug was introduced.


I don't think it's a bug. tal:content/tal:replace expressions should produce a 
message id to be translated, there is no implicit creation of a message id from 
a string.


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Re: [Zope3-dev] zcml:condition registry?

2005-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
OK. How come we just don't use dotted names?
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Re: [Zope3-dev] zcml:condition registry?

2005-10-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 10/3/05, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK. How come we just don't use dotted names?

We can use dotted names, but sometimes we still want to know what else
is out there.  Dotted names help avoid accidental collisions in a
small namespace, but do not help us know what is provided.  I think
it's perfectly OK if you simply want to use a prefix to avoid
conflicts, but for products you release to the community, it makes a
lot of sense to document the specific features that are provided. 
This is especially to determine if several people are implementing
similar features, since that may indicate an opportunity to
collaborate.


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[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 03:26:56PM -0400, Stephan Richter wrote:
 
 Downloads
 
   http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/

Is it intended that one should login before being able to access that 
page?

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Re: [Zope3-dev] zcml:condition registry?

2005-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/3/05, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 conflicts, but for products you release to the community, it makes a
 lot of sense to document the specific features that are provided.
 This is especially to determine if several people are implementing
 similar features, since that may indicate an opportunity to
 collaborate.

That makes sense. A wikipage should be the way to go, then.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Tim Peters
   http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/

[Reinoud van Leeuwen]
 Is it intended that one should login before being able to access that
 page?

Not intended, and logging in may not help either.  Try it with and
without the trailing slash:

http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/

or

http://zope.org/Products/Zope3

At the moment, the latter works for me but the former doesn't.

During the time I was uploading the Windows installers for 3.1.0
(within the last hour), it's possible that login was _required_ before
the UI let me publish them.  Sometimes Software Release pages get
into that state, refusing to let anonymous visitors view them so long
as any private items remain.  That's not a possible factor anymore
(all items on the page are published now).

During the upload process, I had the same ongoing problems with
getting back login is required pages at seemingly random times
despite that I was logged in the whole time.

Chopping or adding a trailing slash often worms around that, and
whether or not you're logged in.
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton

Stephan Richter wrote:

Hello everyone,

The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 final.

Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based
on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2.

It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use,
which is why we decided to drop the 'X' for experimental from the name. We
will also continue to work on making the transition between Zope 2 and Zope 3
as smooth as possible. As a first step, Zope 2.8 includes Zope 3 features in
the form of Five.

Now that we have a release that we would like to declare stable next week, we
are looking for translators, who translate Zope 3 into their favorite
language! We are utilizing the Rosetta system from Ubuntu for managing those
translations. If you are not familiar with Rosetta, please send us a mail to
zope3-dev@zope.org and we get you set up.


Downloads

  http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/


This URL is incorrect. The correct URL is:

   http://zope.org/Products/Zope3

(no trailing slash)

Sorry about the confusion.

Jim

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Monday 03 October 2005 12:04, Jim Fulton wrote:


 http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/


This URL is incorrect. The correct URL is:

   http://zope.org/Products/Zope3

(no trailing slash)

Sorry about the confusion.



Both should work. Because if you click via the Webpage links, you get the 
slash.


Yes, they should work.

Unfortunately, they don't.

Jim

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Tim Peters
[Stephan Richter]
  http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/

[Jim Fulton]
 This URL is incorrect. The correct URL is:

http://zope.org/Products/Zope3

 (no trailing slash)

[Stephan]
 Both should work. Because if you click via the Webpage links, you get the
 slash.

[Jim]
 Yes, they should work.

 Unfortunately, they don't.

So is there a reason for saying that the version without the trailing
slash is correct and that the other is incorrect stronger than
that you tried both, and observed that one worked for you while the
other didn't?

I ask because we've seen this before.  Unless something relevant on
zope.org has changed, which of the two forms works depends both on who
tries it and when they try it.  We've also seen cases where neither
form works for a given person at a given time.

If that's still the case, then it can help for a person to try both,
but doesn't help to keep banging on just one because someone else said
it worked for them.

BTW, the Wiki link to 3.1.0 doesn't resolve at

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Downloads

I mean this part near the top:


Latest Releases
stable: [Zope-3.1.0]? and ZopeX3-3.0.1

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[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3.1.0 released!

2005-10-03 Thread Tres Seaver
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Jim Fulton wrote:
 Stephan Richter wrote:
 
 On Monday 03 October 2005 12:04, Jim Fulton wrote:

  http://zope.org/Products/Zope3/


 This URL is incorrect. The correct URL is:

http://zope.org/Products/Zope3

 (no trailing slash)

 Sorry about the confusion.



 Both should work. Because if you click via the Webpage links, you get
 the slash.
 
 
 Yes, they should work.
 
 Unfortunately, they don't.

I would bet we have cache poisoning at work here.  Likely we need to get
a pool of the zope-web folks who can run 'squidclient -m PURGE' to clean
them out.


Tres.
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