[Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Aspeli

Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Dear developers of Zope,

Google is doing Summer of Code this year again. With an entity like the 
Zope Foundation in place, Zope could participate for the first time.


Awesome :)

I was involved in running Plone's process last year, and will probably 
do so again this year. We did learn a bunch of stuff, so catch me on IRC 
or drop me a mail and we can talk about a few do's and dont's when it 
comes to picking students, picking projects and picking mentors.


Martin

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Bare excepts in z3c.zalchemy

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Withers

Jürgen Kartnaller wrote:


The fact that you get an error there is an indication that something 
in your tests still has a file open in some way, you should fix that ;-)


The something was/is sqlite !


I don't know what that's supposed to mean, since I have little context 
on the tests, but if a test has managed to get sqlite to open a file, 
then it should make sure that file gets closed again, surely?


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Re: [Zope3-dev] Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 05 March 2007 01:00, Douglas Douglas wrote:
 I was wondering what's needed for a undergraduate student to be accepted
 for one of those Zope 3 project. What level of skills are needed? Is it
 enough if I can build an application using Zope 3 from scratch? Or do I
 need to know very well the low level parts of Zope 3 (like my hand's palm).

If you can build a Zope 3 application from scratch, you are plenty qualified. 
It's the mentor's job to help you with the low-level details.

Regards,
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[Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Sidnei da Silva wrote:

I wouldn't mind mentoring someone, though I could also participate as
student. I'm still undergraduate. :)


Cool. Well, when you make up your mind and happen to decide you'd like 
to be a mentor, feel free to add yourself to 
http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007.



I would like to see something happening on the field of having Zope 2
and 3 more easily runnable under WSGI. I'm highly interested in trying
to run them as WSGI under IIS with isapi_wsgi, maybe even improving
isapi_wsgi if needed.


I've been thinking about the same thing, except with Apache instead of 
IIS. Also, I think it'd be great if in the future, we'd be using 
paste.deploy to manage WSGI configuration.


I've munged all that together in a project description at 
http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007. Feel free to improve.



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[Zope3-dev] Re: Bare excepts in z3c.zalchemy

2007-03-05 Thread Jürgen Kartnaller



Chris Withers wrote:

Jürgen Kartnaller wrote:


The fact that you get an error there is an indication that something 
in your tests still has a file open in some way, you should fix that ;-)


The something was/is sqlite !


I don't know what that's supposed to mean, since I have little context 
on the tests, but if a test has managed to get sqlite to open a file, 
then it should make sure that file gets closed again, surely?


Of course you are right.
It just means that I had no idea how I could solve the problem.

Jürgen

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

I've added myself too. I'd be interested in having some ZODB problem,
although I'd like not to put the 'clean up the interfaces' burden onto a
student project that ought to be interesting.

Christian

Am Montag, den 05.03.2007, 08:13 -0500 schrieb Philipp von
Weitershausen:
 Sidnei da Silva wrote:
  I wouldn't mind mentoring someone, though I could also participate as
  student. I'm still undergraduate. :)
 
 Cool. Well, when you make up your mind and happen to decide you'd like 
 to be a mentor, feel free to add yourself to 
 http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007.
 
  I would like to see something happening on the field of having Zope 2
  and 3 more easily runnable under WSGI. I'm highly interested in trying
  to run them as WSGI under IIS with isapi_wsgi, maybe even improving
  isapi_wsgi if needed.
 
 I've been thinking about the same thing, except with Apache instead of 
 IIS. Also, I think it'd be great if in the future, we'd be using 
 paste.deploy to manage WSGI configuration.
 
 I've munged all that together in a project description at 
 http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007. Feel free to improve.
 
 
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

On 5 Mar 2007, at 09:48 , Christian Theune wrote:

I've added myself too.


Thanks.


I'd be interested in having some ZODB problem,
although I'd like not to put the 'clean up the interfaces' burden  
onto a

student project that ought to be interesting.


Yes, I realized the same thing. There are lots of things to do in  
Zope, but not all of them might be interesting enough for a student.


I think it'd be cool to have a ZODB-related project, though. How  
about improving gocept.zeoraid?


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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Aspeli



Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 
 On 5 Mar 2007, at 09:48 , Christian Theune wrote:
 I've added myself too.
 
 Thanks.
 
 I'd be interested in having some ZODB problem,
 although I'd like not to put the 'clean up the interfaces' burden  
 onto a
 student project that ought to be interesting.
 
 Yes, I realized the same thing. There are lots of things to do in  
 Zope, but not all of them might be interesting enough for a student.
 
 I think it'd be cool to have a ZODB-related project, though. How  
 about improving gocept.zeoraid?
 

Is BLOB support definitely finished and in Zope 2.11? Plone is *dying* for
this functionality. ;-)

We were thinking about a Plone GSoC project around large file handling,
though there may not be that much to it if ZODB BLOB support lands and is
solid.

Martin

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:02, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 a) mentors.

     It'd be great if some of the Zope core committers would volunteer to
     mentor a student. This doesn't mean you will definitely end up
     mentoring one, just show your willingness.

I offer to mentor any student that is interested in participating.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:02, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

a) mentors.

It'd be great if some of the Zope core committers would volunteer to
mentor a student. This doesn't mean you will definitely end up
mentoring one, just show your willingness.


I offer to mentor any student that is interested in participating.


Great. I've added you to http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007. If 
you happen to have any project suggestions, feel free to add them to the 
list.



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Re: [Zope3-dev] Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:02, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

a) mentors.

It'd be great if some of the Zope core committers would volunteer to
mentor a student. This doesn't mean you will definitely end up
mentoring one, just show your willingness.


I offer to mentor any student that is interested in participating.


Great. I've added you to http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007. If 
you happen to have any project suggestions, feel free to add them to the 
list.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Martijn Pieters

On 3/5/07, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Great. I've added you to http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SummerOfCode2007. If
you happen to have any project suggestions, feel free to add them to the
list.


I've added myself to the mentors list as well.

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[Zope3-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code

2007-03-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Douglas Douglas wrote:

--- Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If a student should get accepted for one of those projects, it will
obviously make a lot of sense if the person who suggested the project
would mentor him/her.



Hi everybody.

I was wondering what's needed for a undergraduate student to be accepted for
one of those Zope 3 project. What level of skills are needed? Is it enough if I
can build an application using Zope 3 from scratch? Or do I need to know very
well the low level parts of Zope 3 (like my hand's palm).


You should be solid with Python and Zope 3. Things like the Component 
Architecture, ZCML, ZODB, etc. shouldn't be a mystery to you.


However you will be hacking Zope 3 itself, so the more you know about 
Zope 3's internals, the better. Also, I'll predict that most of the 
suggested projects will end up involving some other 3rd party Python 
technology (paste.deploy, eggs, ...). Knowing whichever technology is 
involved into your project should be a requirement as well (at least if 
you don't want to spend too much time on learning about them but instead 
participate in the initial design phase, which we'd certainly like to 
involve you in!)




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[Zope3-dev] zope.fssync dependency on zope.app.file

2007-03-05 Thread Baiju M

Hi,
   We have distributed zope.app.file with Zope 3.3 so zope.app.file 
should be distributed
with zope.app egg when Zope 3.4 is released.  And we are not distributed 
zope.fssync

with Zope 3.3, but now zope.fssync is dependency for zope.app.file .
So I am going include zope.fssync as a dependency for zope.app package.
Also since zope.fssync uses zope.app.fssync we have to include this as 
part of zope.app egg.

Any comments ?

Regards,
Baiju M
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