Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)
Hi there, Gary Poster wrote: [competition] +1. I think the requirement to have enough people submitting is very important, though. No competition anounced unless we get some idea that we'll actually have enough competitors, otherwise we end up looking silly (what happened to the Zope marketing competition? oh, nobody showed up would make Zope marketing *worse*) Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re(2): [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)
Ursprüngliche Nachricht Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:01:23 +0100 von: Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference. I agree and think that Zope 3 doesn't need a secondary brand name. My suggestion: set up a dedicated website zope3.tld to emphazise that it is not just a new version, and things will go the right direction. The Zope3-rotterdam logo may be good enough to start a no-nonsens design. Downloads, tutorials and documentation of any level should be available by as less clicks as possible. The site should be as user friendly as possible for someone who looks the first time at zope3 (and may be thinking the sql-way), this is the audience. Just my 5¢ for further discussions. regards, -Klaus ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)
Max M wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference. If you want to fix the Zope 2 website at the same time as branding Zope 3, I fear it is a monumental task that will never happen. Yes, that is indeed a risk that I'm well aware of. Still, I think we can present a good 'brochure' about Zope 2 on a unified website. Whatever we do, we should definitely sketch out the relationship between the two projects, something that is now completely missing. Zope 2 needs marketing as much as Zope 3. The Zope 2 website is so big, and has so much content that it should have somebody working on it full time if it needs changing. Perhaps this monumental approach to a zope site is wrong. Microsites with well defined boundaries, that a few or a single person could be responsible for might be a better approach. Yes. Rest assured my ambition is to keep ambitions as low as possible. :) Otherwise nothing will happen. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)
Martijn Faassen wrote: Max M wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference. If you want to fix the Zope 2 website at the same time as branding Zope 3, I fear it is a monumental task that will never happen. Yes, that is indeed a risk that I'm well aware of. Still, I think we can present a good 'brochure' about Zope 2 on a unified website. Whatever we do, we should definitely sketch out the relationship between the two projects, something that is now completely missing. Zope 2 needs marketing as much as Zope 3. The Zope 2 website is so big, and has so much content that it should have somebody working on it full time if it needs changing. Perhaps this monumental approach to a zope site is wrong. Microsites with well defined boundaries, that a few or a single person could be responsible for might be a better approach. Yes. Rest assured my ambition is to keep ambitions as low as possible. :) Otherwise nothing will happen. The front page of Zope.org doesn't show the activity around Z3 at all. That wouln't cost anything to start to add a few z3 links in Zope Exits for example. (beside the point to have a marco/micro approach) Regards Tarek ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)
Tarek Ziadé wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Yes. Rest assured my ambition is to keep ambitions as low as possible. :) Otherwise nothing will happen. The front page of Zope.org doesn't show the activity around Z3 at all. That wouln't cost anything to start to add a few z3 links in Zope Exits for example. (beside the point to have a marco/micro approach) Good point. I'm not a maintainer of the current zope.org so this suggestion will have to be made to someone who can change things. I'm sure someone is listening on the zope-web mailing list who can? Regards, Martijn ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
