Re: [Zope3-dev] WebDAV

2006-02-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 16:18, Michael Kerrin wrote:
   WebDAV Interfaces, Widgets and Adapters

     http://www.zope.org/Members/mkerrin/WebDAVInterfacesWidgetsAndAdapters

     This defines changes that I see has crucial but which introduce nasty
 backwards compatibility problems. So it would be handy to know who has
 developed any custom extension to zope.app.dav be it a custom adapter to
 zope.app.dav.interfaces.IDAVSchema or who have developed a custom WebDAV
 namespace (these are the two likely areas for problems). I am hoping that
 this figure is small :-)

Hi Michael,

It is good to finally see a real technical discussion again. I hope Jim is 
reading the list again. :-)

I really like this proposal, since it fixes the WebDAV support to a state 
where it should be. I honestly doubt that anyone has been using WebDAV until 
now. Thus I would not worry about BBB at this point, but it is still good 
that you are asking!

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] WebDAV

2006-02-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 16:18, Michael Kerrin wrote:
  WebDAV? Namespace Management

     http://www.zope.org/Members/mkerrin/WebDAVProposal/wikipage_view

     Here I define how, and why, I am planning to manage a WebDAV namespace.
 This includes how to find which properties are defined on a object, and
 what widget to use to display the property, and how to extend an already
 registered WebDAV namespace.

   My goal for all this has being to develop zope.app.dav to a point where
 it can handle all of the WebDAV protocol details according to the RFC2518
 specification, while only requiring a minimal knowledge of WebDAV from
 developers who just wish to integrate WebDAV protocol into there
 application.

Michael,

this is also an excellent proposal. I really like it! I think with this and 
the other proposal, the Zope 3 WebDAV story will look really good.

The only outstanding problem is with the arbitrary namespace data that we 
might receive. Have you thought about that already? I don't want to add more 
work, so if you do not want to think about this, then just ignore the 
question. :-)

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] WebDAV

2006-02-09 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:20:46AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
| Michael,
| 
| this is also an excellent proposal. I really like it! I think with this and 
| the other proposal, the Zope 3 WebDAV story will look really good.

By all means! From the POV of having implemented the current webdav
namespace support, I really enjoy the proposals. They make use of some
features that were not present/too obscure when the initial
implementation was done and solve the major glitches that I've found.

+1.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] WebDAV

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Kerrin
Hi Stephan,

On Thursday 09 February 2006 11:20, Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 February 2006 16:18, Michael Kerrin wrote:
   WebDAV? Namespace Management
 
      http://www.zope.org/Members/mkerrin/WebDAVProposal/wikipage_view
 
[snip]
 this is also an excellent proposal. I really like it! I think with this and
 the other proposal, the Zope 3 WebDAV story will look really good.

 The only outstanding problem is with the arbitrary namespace data that we
 might receive. Have you thought about that already? I don't want to add
 more work, so if you do not want to think about this, then just ignore the
 question. :-)
I haven't really thought about it until now but it should fit into the 
proposal, but I am hoping it goes something like this. I think I need to play 
with some test implementation just to make sure.

PROPFIND and PROPPATCH will know if a property is dead or not, considering 
that they are responsible for finding the correct namespace utility, so they 
could ask for standard dead namespace management utility. This utility can 
then generate on the fly a dead WebDAV widget and probable a dead property 
field and then everything continues has normal. I hope :-)

To be honest I was a bit caught up in all the WebDAV namespace / specs that I 
forgot about dead properties until sometime early this week. But I am 
confident that I can get something alone these lines working without to much 
trouble.

Michael

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Re: [Zope3-dev] WebDAV

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Kerrin
On Thursday 09 February 2006 11:06, Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 February 2006 16:18, Michael Kerrin wrote:
    WebDAV Interfaces, Widgets and Adapters
 
     
  http://www.zope.org/Members/mkerrin/WebDAVInterfacesWidgetsAndAdapters
 
      This defines changes that I see has crucial but which introduce nasty
  backwards compatibility problems. So it would be handy to know who has
  developed any custom extension to zope.app.dav be it a custom adapter to
  zope.app.dav.interfaces.IDAVSchema or who have developed a custom WebDAV
  namespace (these are the two likely areas for problems). I am hoping that
  this figure is small :-)

 Hi Michael,

 It is good to finally see a real technical discussion again. I hope Jim is
 reading the list again. :-)
:-)

 I really like this proposal, since it fixes the WebDAV support to a state
 where it should be. I honestly doubt that anyone has been using WebDAV
 until now. Thus I would not worry about BBB at this point, but it is still
 good that you are asking!
Great - this is what I have being hoping for :-)

Thanks
Michael

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55 Fitzwilliam Sq.,
Dublin 2.

Tel: 087 688 3894
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