you can add your own influence to something else. hiphop culture is
all over the globe now, and it has been mutated and added on to. i
personally think all of this stuff sucks, but at least it is being
done by people who live that culture as best as it is done in their
country. spank rock and ta
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i dont see why this even matters anyways, either music is good or it isnt.
tom has the for-real-o-meter though, for real. G.
- Original Message -
From: Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent:
that's the whole point. who cares with being down with a culture or not. who
CARES! i have a great cd that is supposedly traditional south american indian
music, but it's actually made by music professors from sao paolo. it's great, i
like it, i could care less about how real they are etc.
someone wake me up when they get out the kiddie pool
and mud.
or might I suggest just chasing eachother in a circle
for similar results.
;)
agree to disagree, it's the art of mature discussion.
--- J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's the whole point. who cares with being down
with a
On 6/27/07, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did chi people get all protective when detroit did their take on house?
probably some did.
detroit had their own dance culture already going on, as well as
taking part in chicago's house culture.
insisting that new permutations are wrong is just
Hey all, I'm feeling the need to party... What's going on this
weekend? Looking for techno - (not looking for trance or progressive
house)
Any suggestions welcome...
peace, T63
On 6/27/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so how are they *not* down with the culture? What would they be doing
differently if they
were down with the culture?
they would have records out on labels, have deejay residencies, live
in baltimore, etc etc. instead they came from nowhere and
if you're in detroit:
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php#14
there are also some out-of-area events listed there, but nothing
super-comprehensive
- Original Message -
From: T63 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:27 PM
Subject: (313) Techno Party
also JT, if you want an example of doing it right by these small
genres, look to Mo Wax in the summer of 00. they wanted to represent
ghetto tech and miami bass, but they didnt go out and find some white
hipsters to make a joke out of it. instead they got DJ Assault and
Magic Mike to drop LPs:
also JT, if you want an example of doing it right by these small
genres, look to Mo Wax in the summer of 00. they wanted to represent
ghetto tech and miami bass, but they didnt go out and find some white
hipsters to make a joke out of it. instead they got DJ Assault and
Magic Mike to drop LPs:
detroit had their own dance culture already going on, as well as
taking part in chicago's house culture.
detroit had it's own sub-culture yes, they shouldn't have come along and
appropriated chicago's. and chicago shouldn't have appropriated new york's.
music institute was just a wannabe music
That would be greatly appreciated!
Peter
On 6/27/07, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll look when I get home tonite after work. But I was playing it the
other day so it shouldn't be hard to find. Bought it in like 99-2000
maybe? It's a reggae kinda joint, but not all druggy and
http://www.mosrecordings.com/
Plan B is a bit of fun.
Roots Manuva is great live. The new Dizzee is really fresh musically.
Kinda Bomb Squad type beats on the single Sirens. I like Akala's
track Shakespeare - the one that sampled Tomcraft. Clever concept and
works well! There is a French MC who worked in Detroit
Techno people don't party, we just get together and confirm that we
are those who know!
On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:27 PM, T63 wrote:
Hey all, I'm feeling the need to party... What's going on this
weekend? Looking for techno - (not looking for trance or
progressive house)
Any suggestions
This wins for the longest thread in recent memory. Thanks to all (and
Tom) for not getting super-salty and personal for a change.
My 2 Cents: Tittsworth just played here. I haven't even heard his
records, but in my opinion he ripped sh*t up. He throws everything
but the kitchen sink into his
speaking of dj funk: in an interview (for those who understand german:
http://www.de-bug.de/texte/4588.html, quite funny read...) he says that he's
going to release stuff on ed banger. as far as i know there's only a remix for
justice's waters of nazareth so far. oh, back on topic.
if you wanna
hahahaha i'm cracking up that he put my comment in the press quotes for mos #6.
so articulate
awesome to see the architectural pictures and sketches (aroy is an archytech
fyi), and dammmn that record shelf he made is CLASS (see interviews mixes
page)
lies is such an awesome track.
wish
Hey JT
this might keep your ears interested for a while
Aroy Dee (MOS) and Tim Nieburg (Planet Delsin)
recorded at Nachtplan in the TWSTD (Amsterdam)
a raw mix ranging from Chicago till detroit records
with tracks from Carl Craig, James T Cotton Melvin
Oliphant, Mr. Fingers, Aroy Dee,
ha no
you can download them all
:-)
http://www.mosrecordings.com/audio/mixes/m1.mp3
http://www.mosrecordings.com/audio/mixes/m2.mp3
etc..
J.T. schreef:
hahahaha i'm cracking up that he put my comment in the press quotes for mos #6.
so articulate
awesome to see the architectural pictures and
The latest edition of the Toronto based digital arts quarterly
vagueterrain.net is now live. The issue, vague terrain 07: sample
culture is a provocative exploration of contemporary sampling of sound,
image and information. This body of work examines the remix as a
critical practice while
I'm so shocked and disappointed that a serious, real artist such as DJ Funk
(from a genuine place like Chicago) would pander to working with such
transparent and vapid scenesters as Justice (from Paris no less... what the
hell do they know about culture anyway?)
- Original Message
On 6/28/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm so shocked and disappointed that a serious, real artist such as DJ Funk
(from a
genuine place like Chicago) would pander to working with such transparent and
vapid
scenesters as Justice (from Paris no less... what the hell do they know about
well, yes but... I was being heavy handedly sarcastic. but now you bring money
into it...
- Original Message
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:19:29 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Justice
On 6/28/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/28/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, yes but... I was being heavy handedly sarcastic. but now you bring money
into it...
my whole problem is that these guys that i dont like are taking money,
exposure, popularity, and credit from the people who really deserve
it. which is part of
Big tings gwidarn!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tjvCmdp6OKQ
Incidentally, Plan B's just down the high street.
On 28 Jun 2007, at 10:14, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Plan B is a bit of fun.
Roots Manuva is great live. The new Dizzee is really fresh
musically. Kinda Bomb Squad type beats on the
diana potts wrote:
someone wake me up when they get out the kiddie pool
and mud.
or might I suggest just chasing eachother in a circle
for similar results.
Personally, I'm waiting for the J.T./Kooky Scientist/Tomm
WWF steel-cage mud wrestling deathmatch.
:D
- Greg
P.S. As for all
On Jun 28, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Greg Earle wrote:
P.S. As for all the Justice/Spank Rock/etc. discussion - I thought
this was the (313) Detroit Techno list, not the Whatever Music
The (313) Listmembers Feel Like Discussing At The Moment list?!?
OK, nobody talk about Delsin anymore!
--
Personally, I'm waiting for the J.T./Kooky
Scientist/Tomm
WWF steel-cage mud wrestling deathmatch.
Count me in for a block of season tickets.
Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
in the Yahoo!
A techno perfume would be cool. Something like Thierry Mugler's
Alien, that's a techno sent kinda. The packaging is unreal.
On 28/06/2007, at 5:31 AM, John Sokolowski wrote:
Just got this in my inbox. I signed up for the Gamma Player
newsletter when I was in the shop a few months back
I hear you about that problem, and again, this is part and parcel to
the appropriation issue.
but - again, personal anecdote here - I've purchased a lot of
baltimore club 12s at this point, but a few years back I'd never
heard of it. What exposed me to it? (I live on the west coast,
b.t.w.) the
On 6/28/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hear you about that problem, and again, this is part and parcel to
the appropriation issue.
but - again, personal anecdote here - I've purchased a lot of
baltimore club 12s at this point, but a few years back I'd never
heard of it. What exposed me
i used to play the LOA/PragaKhan/RaveTilDawn stuff in like 93 because
i didn't know any better (i was 13).
then my uncle introduced me to Front242 which led to the Waxtrax
Artificial Intelligence Comps and (most importantly) the Trance
Atlantic comp. it was all over after that. I never played
fine but my point was in terms of money - I would have not sent what I did into
the hands of DJ Technics, Rod Lee, etc if it wasn't for the Hollertronix mix
that put their stuff in my ears. those guys got paid more money then that
might have if it weren't for the youngsters propagation of it.
Personally, I'm waiting for the J.T./Kooky Scientist/Tomm
WWF steel-cage mud wrestling deathmatch.
tom and i are friends, there's no animosity...we just like to argue about
social/cultural bs, we're probably on the same page anyways.
P.S. As for all the Justice/Spank Rock/etc. discussion -
i think all the issues we've been talking about relate equally as much to
detroit techno, no? just replace spank rock with ritchie hawtin,
technics with mike banks, and bmore with detroit, et voila
thanx for that. in my last post I was tempted to mention Disco D and DJ
Assault to that
On 6/28/07, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wait, we're talking about labels now? well, mo'wax were just putting out music
they liked.
i know those guys, i worked with them too remember.
but thats the thing, they approached it like fans of the music, not
someone trying to get paid by putting
On 6/28/07, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i think all the issues we've been talking about relate equally as much to
detroit techno, no?
just replace spank rock with ritchie hawtin, technics with mike banks, and
bmore
with detroit, et voila
it is true, this is a constant problem in all kinds
and
it's still not really about bmore. they are bringing attention to the
music. they shouldn't?
not in this disingenuous manner.
Thomas,
I really really hear you on a lot of what you are saying in your email, and
yes, there's a twisted element at the core of American pop culture where
but I guess I just don't get what *would* be a genuine way of calling
attention to the music? (in contrast to this disingenuous manner).
well put..i agree with most of what tom is saying at some level, but it's
impossibly idealistic and entirely speculative. idealism is vital tho. but
yeah.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:40:48AM -0400, J.T. wrote:
awesome to see the architectural pictures and sketches (aroy is an archytech
fyi), and dammmn that record shelf he made is CLASS (see interviews
mixes page)
Yep, interesting to see that Sao Paulo is an inspiration as well...
It
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