I'm with Ty. It's almost time for the DEMF Reality TV blowdown.
Me and Theakston are setting up the bleachers again, selling
tickets and opening the beer stand.
First prize: dinner for two with (soon to be former) Mayor Kwame
Kilpatrick.
Assigned topic: Resolved, Carol Marvin should/should not
I don't think Moby is in fashion, he he.
On 26/03/2008, at 1:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Like Moby's new album - it's a commercial pop hacked up hairball
terribly predictable if you are aware of what's in fashion
except if you consider the track Every Day is 1989 in which Moby
brings
Ah, Natalie is a globally recognised, credible actor... wealthy,
successful and running her own business (vegan shoes counts,
right?)... ;) Plus intelligent, educated principled. Not all women
are *that* dumb, even with the mainstream's cult of the bimbo. ;) He
should have dated Ellen
It's odd in light of the fact that he must realise it all goes back
to Bell - and Hood/Mills...
Cyclone Wehner
Urban/Dance Music Journalist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26/03/2008, at 2:30 PM, Frank Glazer wrote:
the idea of tom middleton giving that much respect to wink makes me
kind of queasy.
Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.
wow. tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes. how could
he possibly give josh wink credit for minimal music!? the new wave
qualification does not justify the complete disregard for dan and rob,
not to mention basic channel?
i guess, though, in a way, he's right. if we're talking
It's good.
-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2008 07:47
To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Robert Hood's Fabric
Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.
Haven't heard Middleton do anything good for a long time. Not very interested
in the idea of credibility, but if his musical output of late is anything to go
by he's pretty clueless.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2008 08:20
To: Cyclone Wehner
there is one wink track that i have that i will forever keep:
http://www.discogs.com/release/129764
that's all i got to say on the matter - i try and see the good in everyone
On 26/03/2008, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wow. tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes. how
Do you think it's just that Middleton has reached a higher state of
consciousness with Wink and they're now simply on the same level.
Perhaps that's it.
Now, my coat ...
-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:27 AM
To: Frank Glazer;
yeah, come to think of it, you've got a point, dan. i think it all
went south around take me with you and hasn't ever gotten back to
that global communication quality stuff.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Haven't heard Middleton do anything good for a long
I dunno for sure, but if I was Diana Potts, I'd be pretty cross about
all these e-mails coming out citing 'girl talk' in close proxmity to a
post that she made.
Disclaimers: (again) I could be wrong; no one here needs me to defend
them - certainly not Ms Potts.
I just hope that the 'girl talk'
Ken I was thinking the same as you - not at all happy with that being said.
However I cautiously enquired in case I didn't realise
what was going on. And in my case I didn't as I'd never heard of this artist
called Girl Talk who's on at the festival nor noticed
them in the line-up announced.
girl talk is a mashup artist booked for demf this year.
he had some CD that samples like 140 tracks and it is TERRIBLE.
if you search on youtube for girl talk, you'll find examples along with
footage from his livesets. the stupid/vapid college crowd seems to eat it
up.
- Original
If it is that act that was booked, then god bless us all.
I am not particularly interested in hearing NAS or the Pixies at the
DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL.
I am clearly in the minority.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:51 AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
girl talk is a mashup artist booked for
Oh I see, thanks.
Guess I'm just not up on what's good these days.
Perhaps that's the reason I won't be there. Too old! :)
Ken
-Original Message-
From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:51 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Josh
Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival
in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to
survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the
better part of valor to give Paxahau a little latitude on booking.
Since it isn't the
OK. Fair enough Kent.
In passing, speaking of The City:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html
Yes, I too do not know all the facts, so can't make any comment either
way, even were it my place to do so.
And I'm not making any comment one way or the other about the source
having
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.
I posted a review here:
http://www.gridface.com/reviews/fabric_39.html
Cheers,
J
I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly
it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his
own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the
business of the City as well.
And I don't know all the facts of the case, either. But one thing
I don't know about other ppl, but i'm awaiting the US release (april
15) and have the mix preordered from amazon. I don't download and
refuse to pay import prices for a cd, so I wait.
While my opinion is informed, I'm slightly biased in my appreciation
of Mr. Hood. As you mentioned in your review
Well, from what I remember hearing about him playing at an after
party for the first DEMF, he played a very different set than the
usual (ie a more Detroit influenced set), so it might be that bad.
Heck, he is a nice breath of fresh air to what cr*p talent that
regularly visits my town. Just my
I totally agree.
But when i saw him doing his laptop thing, i could enjoy it as it was
a radio with a constant moving dial, because the object of the
samples he uses are in my musical taste range. Nothing beyond that.
In other hand, i think people like him, and hollertronix, mentioned
by
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival
in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to
survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the
better part
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already
expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully)
and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of
Paxahau, which is great.
In turn, I just feel we should now be at least be supportive of
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already
expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully)
and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of
Paxahau, which is great.
Moby no longer is involved with Teany, the restaurant, thank god. I
can finally eat in peace.
IMHO he gives vegans a bad name, ;)
http://gawker.com/371549/tea+swilling-musician-is-not-into-drugs
+odd
--
On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote:
Dubfire did that spastik remix,
I think it's important to discuss both the likes and dislikes
if you only discuss what you like then the things you don't get swept under
the carpet and they'll think well, nobody complained
Interesting that Paxahau isn't listening to these people with influence
Is their sense of independence
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly
it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his
own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the
business of the
i liked teany when i went. pricey and a little hokey, but lord knows
thats not the first place in new york that is.
On 3/26/08, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moby no longer is involved with Teany, the restaurant, thank god. I
can finally eat in peace.
IMHO he gives vegans a bad name,
Moby in I am boring shocker - he should do us all a favour and make
a move to get closer to his creator.
IMHO he gives vegans a bad name, ;)
http://gawker.com/371549/tea+swilling-musician-is-not-into-drugs
m
I can't say I've ever heard Benny Benassi play... but what I do
remember is seeing the massive line outside of Bleu here in Detroit
the night that he was booked. There was easily 400 people standing
outside waiting to get in. That's very untypical of Detroit events.
I mean, those numbers do
Reading this I realize it's been quite a while since I've heard anyone
speak hopefully about the future and simultaneously realistically
about the present, which is refreshing and has significantly more to
do with Detroit Techno and all motown music than any other discussion
currently in progress
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already
expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully)
and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of
Paxahau, which is great.
Yeah, but they live there, which means they can give support by simply
I agree. I was in awe for a couple seconds and am still thinking about
the very real possibilities that were just put forth. Thanks for that
post. I didn't know that. Tight.
k
-Original Message-
From: Thor Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:05 PM
To: list
Well I didn't forget at all as I'm very excited, Suburban Knight at Tresor and
Larry Heard at Panorama are amongst the highlights
that have turned up on a weekend we randomly chose to go a while back. I just
counted and in a mail thread between our crew 21
different clubs get discussed. It's
Well, that's just it isn't it - the suburbanites
I've read Paxahau being described as the suburban promoters
Can anyone give some history/background on Paxahau?
MEK
UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 11:03:19
AM:
I can't say I've ever heard Benny Benassi play... but what I do
are you another member of the $40 lunch club mk? ;)
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i liked teany when i went. pricey and a little hokey, but lord knows
thats not the first place in new york that is.
On 3/26/08, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 4 deadlines so I'll try to keep this brief.
Paxahau have technically been down since 1992/1993.
the Jasons [Clark and Huvaere] have been promoting stuff in DOWNTOWN
Detroit for as long as I can remember. I met them either the first or
second time I was there... maybe it was Journey to
I had just been asking someone who works with them the same question
the other day. We were at a bar, so forgive my hazy memory for
specific details
They've been formed officially as Paxahau for more than 11 years.
Hoovar has had an influence in party promotions in Detroit since the
for everybody complaining about the lineup so far, i think it's very
important to remember that this is merely an initial partial lineup of
likely the biggest attention getting names released in order to
boost presales of a certain crowd of people. i'd bet there will be
more more underground
hello !
Just a quick reminder about our party next friday - the 4th April There's 80
tickets left so i would suggest that you grab 1 as soon as you can .
Wegottickets - the ticket outlet we are using , will be selling tickets
right up to 6pm on the day of the party . If there are any left
I agree with Mike and Tom.
Perhaps someone could tell me: How does the festival in it's current
incarnation reflect/celebrate the city and culture it is/was supposed
to represent?
If the current idea is just to fill up the place, then these bookings
make plenty of sense. If they are actually
Forgot to mention this, 10 free downloads.
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/97584/bloc_promo
m
Actually, and technically, I don't think it is DEMF
afaik Carol Marvin owns DEMF
what Paxahau is doing is Movement
I've come to the conclusion that, although they both have taken place in
the same place and the same annual dates, the festivals are two different
things with two almost entirely
I love the wayback machine
MEK
Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 02:16:44 PM:
DEMF won't be the first time Moby has been outclassed
by the home team.
fh
-
from ne-raves archives
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 12:11 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
The original. Demand nothing less.
fh
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(ne-raves archive)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:08:49 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Moby update
Hello everyone!
Ummm, just thought I would mention this interesting tidbit that
happened to me this morning. I was woken
Rick Wade -and- our own Phonopsia ... at one of
Lakuti co.'s parties ... you lot within the British Isles
better show up for this one!
fh
Great! I was just thinking abotu when this was getting its US release...
I was listening to the samples on the fabric site, really liking the selection
On 3/26/08, jwan allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about other ppl, but i'm awaiting the US release (april
15) and have the mix
I can't help but compare this thread to discussions I've heard about
the evolution of the Winter Music Conference.. over the years the
conference has evolved completely into a festival of mass proportions.
Or even comparing it to the debate I used to hear over and over again
about Vinyl vs CD,
Woah... thats hysterically wicked Line-up from 1992... and
Moby's sandwiched right in between Jeff Mills and Kevin Saunderson...
hmmm... guess the 313 history buffs on this list who slated Moby
for not being Detroit enough need to recheck their history...
sounds to me like Detroiter's in
Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these things?!
Jodie
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The original. Demand nothing less.
fh
---
(ne-raves archive)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:08:49 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sounds to me like Detroiter's in 1992 were supportive of Moby... the
crowd was shakin it too... lol...
True, but I think that was before Moby started his I'm a Rock Star
thing and started singing in front of a band with Gwen Stefani. :)
Still, I can honestly say I hope he brings it come May.
Is it too late to make another 313 t-shirt?
it should say across the chest
Moby go away, I'm busy.
and then at the bottom in small print have the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:-D
MEK
UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 02:59:02
PM:
Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:43 PM, UI Design
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Evolution is part of life.
but this is deevolution.
tom
Evolution is part of life
but this is deevolution.
tom
I'd love to see Devo at DEMF ;)
Spudboy
Be warned, while anyone can get into Tresor (one producer I know said
it's the club where people go when they can't get into any other
clubs.) Berghain and Watergate can be really picky about who they let
in. Dress stylishly, and don't act visibly intoxicated or loud. I'm
sure you're fabulous
Berghain has a dress code? bwhahaha, it seems half the clothes come
off as soon as they get through the door anyways.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be warned, while anyone can get into Tresor (one producer I know said
it's the club where people go when
This mix is more minimal and a bit more spankin than Saunderson mixes
I've heard lately. It also has an entertaining 'call in' playlist
consisting mostly of spoken beatport file ID numbers.
http://ra1.residentadvisor.net/audio/RA095_080324_Kevin_Saunderson-residentadvisor.net.mp3
gentlemen dont cheat on their wives, possibly conspire in the police-murder
of a stripper, cover up 2 investigations, obstruct justice, fire police
investigating his crimes, and then settle it all with 9 million dollars of
taxpayer money that the city of detroit simply can't afford to pay out.
that lineup is ~30 percent complete, btw
- Original Message -
From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with
give me a break. spitzer got 10x the news kwame has, despite being
relatively clean compared to kwambo. bush and cheney aren't going to catch
heat for anything.
- Original Message -
From: UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL
I saw Moby at a rave in Scotland in 1991.
eat my words if he tears it up like he apparently used to 15-16 years
ago.
I'm afraid he was rubbish then too.
I can confirm he has got worse since though.
In 20 years time they'll be posting on whatever they have then saying hey
can you believe it?
H, although I've experienced that at Watergate (and Weekend and I
believe Cookies may be like that) every time I've been to Berghain I've been
both
visibly intoxicated AND loud
My impression of the place has always been the more way out the better!
That's rough on Tresor, it might not be
up and open, with a few 313-centric afterparties posted today:
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=74.0
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In 20 years time they'll be posting on whatever they have then saying hey
can you believe it? Benny Benassi was cool back in '08 - look in this old
line up I found he is sandwiched between Alton Miller and Carl
and 25% worth the effort
;-)
MEK
/0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 04:56:15 PM:
that lineup is ~30 percent complete, btw
- Original Message -
From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:27
In every sandwich there's always filler along with the meat
MEK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
03/26/2008 05:14:11 PM:
I saw Moby at a rave in Scotland in 1991.
eat my words if he tears it up like he apparently used to 15-16 years
ago.
I'm afraid he was rubbish then too.
k A gentleman doesn't kiss and
tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a
private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's
impeachment.
Gentlemen usually don't fire those who investigate them (ruining
careers) and help waste 9 million badly needed city
Might be a bit too late, but a 2 part mix that i recorded with the
best 2007 tracks, in my opinion, of course, is up at the great
brazilian blog Tranquera, conducted by Bruno Belluomini (don't forget
to check out his recent XLR8R exclusive mix!).
The text and the interview are in portuguese,
Well it's pretty obvious that Kwame's problems go way beyond thinking
with his dick. I never meant to justify all the other crap he's
allegedly pulled.
I was trying to make a pretty specific small point, not justify a
whole range of high crimes and misdemeanors, either in Clinton or
Kilpatrick's
#Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these things?!
#Jodie
Well, I was on ne-raves back in the day, when there were
just a few dozen people each active on sfraves, ne-raves,
dcraves and uk-dance, and being on the lists was a good
way to keep in touch with developments all over.
I
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