Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm with Ty. It's almost time for the DEMF Reality TV blowdown. Me and Theakston are setting up the bleachers again, selling tickets and opening the beer stand. First prize: dinner for two with (soon to be former) Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. Assigned topic: Resolved, Carol Marvin should/should not

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't think Moby is in fashion, he he. On 26/03/2008, at 1:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Moby's new album - it's a commercial pop hacked up hairball terribly predictable if you are aware of what's in fashion except if you consider the track Every Day is 1989 in which Moby brings

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Ah, Natalie is a globally recognised, credible actor... wealthy, successful and running her own business (vegan shoes counts, right?)... ;) Plus intelligent, educated principled. Not all women are *that* dumb, even with the mainstream's cult of the bimbo. ;) He should have dated Ellen

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It's odd in light of the fact that he must realise it all goes back to Bell - and Hood/Mills... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/03/2008, at 2:30 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: the idea of tom middleton giving that much respect to wink makes me kind of queasy.

(313) Robert Hood's Fabric

2008-03-26 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Frank Glazer
wow. tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes. how could he possibly give josh wink credit for minimal music!? the new wave qualification does not justify the complete disregard for dan and rob, not to mention basic channel? i guess, though, in a way, he's right. if we're talking

RE: (313) Robert Hood's Fabric

2008-03-26 Thread Dan Bean
It's good. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2008 07:47 To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Robert Hood's Fabric Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.

RE: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Dan Bean
Haven't heard Middleton do anything good for a long time. Not very interested in the idea of credibility, but if his musical output of late is anything to go by he's pretty clueless. -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2008 08:20 To: Cyclone Wehner

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
there is one wink track that i have that i will forever keep: http://www.discogs.com/release/129764 that's all i got to say on the matter - i try and see the good in everyone On 26/03/2008, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow. tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes. how

RE: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Do you think it's just that Middleton has reached a higher state of consciousness with Wink and they're now simply on the same level. Perhaps that's it. Now, my coat ... -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:27 AM To: Frank Glazer;

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Frank Glazer
yeah, come to think of it, you've got a point, dan. i think it all went south around take me with you and hasn't ever gotten back to that global communication quality stuff. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:26 AM, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't heard Middleton do anything good for a long

RE: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I dunno for sure, but if I was Diana Potts, I'd be pretty cross about all these e-mails coming out citing 'girl talk' in close proxmity to a post that she made. Disclaimers: (again) I could be wrong; no one here needs me to defend them - certainly not Ms Potts. I just hope that the 'girl talk'

RE: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken I was thinking the same as you - not at all happy with that being said. However I cautiously enquired in case I didn't realise what was going on. And in my case I didn't as I'd never heard of this artist called Girl Talk who's on at the festival nor noticed them in the line-up announced.

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread /0
girl talk is a mashup artist booked for demf this year. he had some CD that samples like 140 tracks and it is TERRIBLE. if you search on youtube for girl talk, you'll find examples along with footage from his livesets. the stupid/vapid college crowd seems to eat it up. - Original

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Michael Kuszynski
If it is that act that was booked, then god bless us all. I am not particularly interested in hearing NAS or the Pixies at the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL. I am clearly in the minority. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:51 AM, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: girl talk is a mashup artist booked for

RE: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Oh I see, thanks. Guess I'm just not up on what's good these days. Perhaps that's the reason I won't be there. Too old! :) Ken -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:51 AM To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Josh

(313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the better part of valor to give Paxahau a little latitude on booking. Since it isn't the

RE: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Odeluga, Ken
OK. Fair enough Kent. In passing, speaking of The City: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html Yes, I too do not know all the facts, so can't make any comment either way, even were it my place to do so. And I'm not making any comment one way or the other about the source having

(313) Re: Robert Hood's Fabric

2008-03-26 Thread Jacob Arnold
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Any thoughts? I am really enjoying. I posted a review here: http://www.gridface.com/reviews/fabric_39.html Cheers, J

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the business of the City as well. And I don't know all the facts of the case, either. But one thing

Re: (313) Re: Robert Hood's Fabric

2008-03-26 Thread jwan allen
I don't know about other ppl, but i'm awaiting the US release (april 15) and have the mix preordered from amazon. I don't download and refuse to pay import prices for a cd, so I wait. While my opinion is informed, I'm slightly biased in my appreciation of Mr. Hood. As you mentioned in your review

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Joel Gajewski
Well, from what I remember hearing about him playing at an after party for the first DEMF, he played a very different set than the usual (ie a more Detroit influenced set), so it might be that bad. Heck, he is a nice breath of fresh air to what cr*p talent that regularly visits my town. Just my

Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08

2008-03-26 Thread Kowalsky
I totally agree. But when i saw him doing his laptop thing, i could enjoy it as it was a radio with a constant moving dial, because the object of the samples he uses are in my musical taste range. Nothing beyond that. In other hand, i think people like him, and hollertronix, mentioned by

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the better part

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread M Ng
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great. In turn, I just feel we should now be at least be supportive of

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great.

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Sines
Moby no longer is involved with Teany, the restaurant, thank god. I can finally eat in peace. IMHO he gives vegans a bad name, ;) http://gawker.com/371549/tea+swilling-musician-is-not-into-drugs +odd -- On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: Dubfire did that spastik remix,

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I think it's important to discuss both the likes and dislikes if you only discuss what you like then the things you don't get swept under the carpet and they'll think well, nobody complained Interesting that Paxahau isn't listening to these people with influence Is their sense of independence

Re: (313) re: Kwame OT

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the business of the

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Michael Kuszynski
i liked teany when i went. pricey and a little hokey, but lord knows thats not the first place in new york that is. On 3/26/08, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moby no longer is involved with Teany, the restaurant, thank god. I can finally eat in peace. IMHO he gives vegans a bad name,

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Martin Dust
Moby in I am boring shocker - he should do us all a favour and make a move to get closer to his creator. IMHO he gives vegans a bad name, ;) http://gawker.com/371549/tea+swilling-musician-is-not-into-drugs m

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
I can't say I've ever heard Benny Benassi play... but what I do remember is seeing the massive line outside of Bleu here in Detroit the night that he was booked. There was easily 400 people standing outside waiting to get in. That's very untypical of Detroit events. I mean, those numbers do

Re: (313) re: Kwame OT

2008-03-26 Thread Thor Teague
Reading this I realize it's been quite a while since I've heard anyone speak hopefully about the future and simultaneously realistically about the present, which is refreshing and has significantly more to do with Detroit Techno and all motown music than any other discussion currently in progress

RE: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great. Yeah, but they live there, which means they can give support by simply

RE: (313) re: Kwame OT

2008-03-26 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
I agree. I was in awe for a couple seconds and am still thinking about the very real possibilities that were just put forth. Thanks for that post. I didn't know that. Tight. k -Original Message- From: Thor Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:05 PM To: list

(313) with all this Wink-fest 2008 stuff I forgot I was going to Berlin this weekend

2008-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well I didn't forget at all as I'm very excited, Suburban Knight at Tresor and Larry Heard at Panorama are amongst the highlights that have turned up on a weekend we randomly chose to go a while back. I just counted and in a mail thread between our crew 21 different clubs get discussed. It's

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Well, that's just it isn't it - the suburbanites I've read Paxahau being described as the suburban promoters Can anyone give some history/background on Paxahau? MEK UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 11:03:19 AM: I can't say I've ever heard Benny Benassi play... but what I do

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread Frank Glazer
are you another member of the $40 lunch club mk? ;) On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i liked teany when i went. pricey and a little hokey, but lord knows thats not the first place in new york that is. On 3/26/08, Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(313) Paxahau [was Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally]

2008-03-26 Thread Todd Sines
On 4 deadlines so I'll try to keep this brief. Paxahau have technically been down since 1992/1993. the Jasons [Clark and Huvaere] have been promoting stuff in DOWNTOWN Detroit for as long as I can remember. I met them either the first or second time I was there... maybe it was Journey to

Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
I had just been asking someone who works with them the same question the other day. We were at a bar, so forgive my hazy memory for specific details They've been formed officially as Paxahau for more than 11 years. Hoovar has had an influence in party promotions in Detroit since the

(313) demf PARTIAL lineup

2008-03-26 Thread Frank Glazer
for everybody complaining about the lineup so far, i think it's very important to remember that this is merely an initial partial lineup of likely the biggest attention getting names released in order to boost presales of a certain crowd of people. i'd bet there will be more more underground

(313) 4th April (Next Friday ) Süd Electronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia

2008-03-26 Thread lakuti
hello ! Just a quick reminder about our party next friday - the 4th April There's 80 tickets left so i would suggest that you grab 1 as soon as you can . Wegottickets - the ticket outlet we are using , will be selling tickets right up to 6pm on the day of the party . If there are any left

(313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Arturo Lopez
I agree with Mike and Tom. Perhaps someone could tell me: How does the festival in it's current incarnation reflect/celebrate the city and culture it is/was supposed to represent? If the current idea is just to fill up the place, then these bookings make plenty of sense. If they are actually

(313) Free Bloc Download

2008-03-26 Thread Martin Dust
Forgot to mention this, 10 free downloads. https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/97584/bloc_promo m

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Actually, and technically, I don't think it is DEMF afaik Carol Marvin owns DEMF what Paxahau is doing is Movement I've come to the conclusion that, although they both have taken place in the same place and the same annual dates, the festivals are two different things with two almost entirely

Re: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I love the wayback machine MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 02:16:44 PM: DEMF won't be the first time Moby has been outclassed by the home team. fh - from ne-raves archives Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 12:11 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

(313) go away Moby

2008-03-26 Thread Fred Heutte
The original. Demand nothing less. fh --- (ne-raves archive) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:08:49 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moby update Hello everyone! Ummm, just thought I would mention this interesting tidbit that happened to me this morning. I was woken

Re: (313) 4th April (Next Friday ) S�dElectronic With Rik Wade-Detroit (London Debut ) , KSoul ,Portable/Bodycode, Phonopsia

2008-03-26 Thread Fred Heutte
Rick Wade -and- our own Phonopsia ... at one of Lakuti co.'s parties ... you lot within the British Isles better show up for this one! fh

Re: (313) Re: Robert Hood's Fabric

2008-03-26 Thread M Ng
Great! I was just thinking abotu when this was getting its US release... I was listening to the samples on the fabric site, really liking the selection On 3/26/08, jwan allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about other ppl, but i'm awaiting the US release (april 15) and have the mix

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
I can't help but compare this thread to discussions I've heard about the evolution of the Winter Music Conference.. over the years the conference has evolved completely into a festival of mass proportions. Or even comparing it to the debate I used to hear over and over again about Vinyl vs CD,

Re: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
Woah... thats hysterically wicked Line-up from 1992... and Moby's sandwiched right in between Jeff Mills and Kevin Saunderson... hmmm... guess the 313 history buffs on this list who slated Moby for not being Detroit enough need to recheck their history... sounds to me like Detroiter's in

Re: (313) go away Moby

2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these things?! Jodie On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original. Demand nothing less. fh --- (ne-raves archive) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:08:49 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread Arturo Lopez
sounds to me like Detroiter's in 1992 were supportive of Moby... the crowd was shakin it too... lol... True, but I think that was before Moby started his I'm a Rock Star thing and started singing in front of a band with Gwen Stefani. :) Still, I can honestly say I hope he brings it come May.

Re: (313) go away Moby

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Is it too late to make another 313 t-shirt? it should say across the chest Moby go away, I'm busy. and then at the bottom in small print have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D MEK UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 02:59:02 PM: Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:43 PM, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evolution is part of life. but this is deevolution. tom

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Martin Dust
Evolution is part of life but this is deevolution. tom I'd love to see Devo at DEMF ;) Spudboy

Re: (313) with all this Wink-fest 2008 stuff I forgot I was going to Berlin this weekend

2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
Be warned, while anyone can get into Tresor (one producer I know said it's the club where people go when they can't get into any other clubs.) Berghain and Watergate can be really picky about who they let in. Dress stylishly, and don't act visibly intoxicated or loud. I'm sure you're fabulous

Re: (313) with all this Wink-fest 2008 stuff I forgot I was going to Berlin this weekend

2008-03-26 Thread Southern Outpost
Berghain has a dress code? bwhahaha, it seems half the clothes come off as soon as they get through the door anyways. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be warned, while anyone can get into Tresor (one producer I know said it's the club where people go when

(313) KMS RA Podcast

2008-03-26 Thread james . hurlbut
This mix is more minimal and a bit more spankin than Saunderson mixes I've heard lately. It also has an entertaining 'call in' playlist consisting mostly of spoken beatport file ID numbers. http://ra1.residentadvisor.net/audio/RA095_080324_Kevin_Saunderson-residentadvisor.net.mp3

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread /0
gentlemen dont cheat on their wives, possibly conspire in the police-murder of a stripper, cover up 2 investigations, obstruct justice, fire police investigating his crimes, and then settle it all with 9 million dollars of taxpayer money that the city of detroit simply can't afford to pay out.

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread /0
that lineup is ~30 percent complete, btw - Original Message - From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf From what I know, certain people in Detroit with

Re: (313) re: Kwame OT

2008-03-26 Thread /0
give me a break. spitzer got 10x the news kwame has, despite being relatively clean compared to kwambo. bush and cheney aren't going to catch heat for anything. - Original Message - From: UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL

RE: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I saw Moby at a rave in Scotland in 1991. eat my words if he tears it up like he apparently used to 15-16 years ago. I'm afraid he was rubbish then too. I can confirm he has got worse since though. In 20 years time they'll be posting on whatever they have then saying hey can you believe it?

RE: (313) with all this Wink-fest 2008 stuff I forgot I was going to Berlin this weekend

2008-03-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H, although I've experienced that at Watergate (and Weekend and I believe Cookies may be like that) every time I've been to Berghain I've been both visibly intoxicated AND loud My impression of the place has always been the more way out the better! That's rough on Tresor, it might not be

(313) detroitluv demf board/afterparty list

2008-03-26 Thread /0
up and open, with a few 313-centric afterparties posted today: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=74.0

Re: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 20 years time they'll be posting on whatever they have then saying hey can you believe it? Benny Benassi was cool back in '08 - look in this old line up I found he is sandwiched between Alton Miller and Carl

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
and 25% worth the effort ;-) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 04:56:15 PM: that lineup is ~30 percent complete, btw - Original Message - From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:27

RE: (313) Re: Moby in tha D

2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
In every sandwich there's always filler along with the meat MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/26/2008 05:14:11 PM: I saw Moby at a rave in Scotland in 1991. eat my words if he tears it up like he apparently used to 15-16 years ago. I'm afraid he was rubbish then too.

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
k A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's impeachment. Gentlemen usually don't fire those who investigate them (ruining careers) and help waste 9 million badly needed city

(313) [a little bit OT] Dubstep 2007

2008-03-26 Thread Kowalsky
Might be a bit too late, but a 2 part mix that i recorded with the best 2007 tracks, in my opinion, of course, is up at the great brazilian blog Tranquera, conducted by Bruno Belluomini (don't forget to check out his recent XLR8R exclusive mix!). The text and the interview are in portuguese,

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
Well it's pretty obvious that Kwame's problems go way beyond thinking with his dick. I never meant to justify all the other crap he's allegedly pulled. I was trying to make a pretty specific small point, not justify a whole range of high crimes and misdemeanors, either in Clinton or Kilpatrick's

Re: (313) go away Moby

2008-03-26 Thread Fred Heutte
#Fred, you are hysterical... where do you find these things?! #Jodie Well, I was on ne-raves back in the day, when there were just a few dozen people each active on sfraves, ne-raves, dcraves and uk-dance, and being on the lists was a good way to keep in touch with developments all over. I

(313) 'The Vault'- March 12, 2008 feat. Jason Patrick

2008-03-26 Thread Anton Banks (www.antonbanks.com)
All of my guest show archives are available online. To get to them, visit www.AntonBanks.com and click on Archive of Past Guests. Many thanks to Jason as well as Nadia @ Volatl for this set. For more information, please visit www.volatl.com or www.myspace.com/klectikjp.