noodling around
with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music.
===
Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of
things which are analagous with any instrument.
===
most of which
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On 3/27/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mapping out midi in ableton takes literally 1 minute...
you just assign parameters to knobs on a controller and keep them the
same
for the whole set.
but what if you want to change it? or what if something starts
Nothing I wish to waste any more time on.
I understand Tom's point, but he needs to work on his analogies, which
usually depend on everyone experiencing everything just like he does. ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay I'm totally confused. What the heck are you guys arguing about?
ANYTHING can hinder creativity.
It would be an exceptionally hard sell to prove anything can enhance it.
How would you know what would have happened if you did or did not do
'x'? Or added (fill in the blank with love/hate gear)?
By whose standards?
Just because you think music is either
I already answered that. See below (i.e., you ASSUME technology is the
culprit based on your stance (begging the question, as it were) - but
based on what? You have no idea, really. What if he just plain ran out
of ideas?).
ta.
j
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just because you think music is
Because you are committed to your position of technology as the problem.
You believe if you ripped off all of his gear he'd make something you
find more palatable?
When you make the argument that of all causes of dilution technology is
the chief culprit, it is incumbent upon you to demonstrate
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because you are committed to your position of technology as the problem.
but the problem is, i only committed to that position as a result of
seeing what happened as technology surged! not the other way around
Martin Dust wrote:
The problem is they don't think they are doing anything wrong,
everyone does it right and no one pays, it's the accepted norm. I've no
idea how you educate people on this, I just hope it isn't too late.
While some heads may try before they buy, many simply don't -
This 'doesen't count', but there's a live PA about 3/4 the way the down
the list here:
http://www.shapedworld.com/
There's a mix of his on a recent Zander VT record on memo too
Well - is it *good* beer?
jeff
Does anyone have any info on this?
http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/
..but did he ever get his earplugs out of the deal?
j
Hey, it worked for Van Gogh ;-)
MEK
I think severing my own ears so that I could get someone to buy me
custom-made plugs in the US
might be construed as a bit drastic, even by my standards.
Yowza indeed.
Last time I saw them was at that Pontiac fest where there were like 8-10
people. Amazing switch-hitting sets.
3 Chairs (yes!)
This has got some nice passages:
http://www.discogs.com/release/820027
I like this a lot as well (hard to find!):
http://www.discogs.com/release/264118
In the same series was Dan Bell's fine The Button Down Mind of Daniel
Bell. I think he copped that name from an old Bob Newheart comedy
record, right?
jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Ben Thompson wrote:
No idea. Good research needed for that one. Dan Bell has used the name well
though:)
On 8/3/07 12:44 pm, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the same series was Dan Bell's fine The Button Down Mind of Daniel
Bell. I think he copped that name from an old Bob
The new Riley Reinhold romp through Trapez territory isn't half bad,
either. (Selection 5, mixed by Triple R)
YMMV depending on how you define 'minimal', but he does a good job with
what he's using; for the most part he keeps it flowing.
jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes - Dark Matter is nice in my ears as well.
jeff
Silicone Scally - Bioroid (LP) (Satamile Records)
-best I've heard from him for almost a decade... makes me want to go
back and check the LP he had on the same label last year. Software,
dense, dirty, deceptively
Just fyi for interested locals:
2. On Friday, March 9, Bill Van Loo J. Schnable will be playing live
music as a duo at the Sync07 Festival in Ann Arbor, MI. The show starts
at 7PM and is FREE! Our good friend Bubblegone will also be performing
that night, along with My Dear Disco: Dancethink
I'm not sure that pleasing the few to whom this will make a difference
qualifies as a 'great reward'.
A good thing, yes.
It's always a great time and you can't please everyone.
Go - or don't.
Can't see all the falderal when the lineup isn't fully announced nor
inevitable changes made. There's
Hmmm...those first few years were a LOT more eclectic than anything I
see (Autechre, Theo...Tortoise!) here. I'm not sure if we are hearkening
back in that sense, anyway. And I'd wager a lot more than who's there
goes into who travels. Like money. I know I'd never be able to afford it
if I had
Oh yeah.
I recall the DJ set many fests ago - only a handful of people there, as
it was very early on the main stage - bliss.
I know it's not exactly the same, but...
but the idea of rs for 6 hours on an awesome sound system has me
salivating already!
If I was driving in, I'd start checking the outlying burbs for a Red
Roof or something equally un-belled/unwhistled. It's only about a 30-odd
minute frive from Novi to Hart Plaza...
j
I can't even afford it this year and I'm only a full days drive away (3
states).
Groove dis has the J+J.
And now that they accept webform orders and their prices haven't risen
quite as fast as everyone else's (because they have been too high for
ages) and 'membership' isn't pushed as necessary to order, it brings
them back into the circle of those-from-whom-I-deem
Wow. I saw that _live_!!! The vid just doesn't capture all of Tristan's
moves (the exhausted boxer - loved that one), nor yours, Kent - but it
does a better job or representing your DEMF oeuvre than it does for
Tristan. Jolly good. Much better than any Super-Bowel, in my opinion.
Have you looked into the Music For Speakers or the Sonar
Kollektiv-offshoot cupboard?
jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Happy Friday everyone!
Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find
some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne,
This is 2nd hand, but rumor is they're only relocating.
A friend of mine says he overheard the owner talking about a new
location when he was in there.
He also said it was only a small portion of the dance music which was a
buck (indicating that it wasn't an all-out stock liquidation move).
They were actually all released my Mike Sickenger and offered to people
on what used to be his Octal Records mailing list, then he sold them on
eBay for ages.
I don't think Rod has anything at all to do with moving the records
themseleves.
They pop up on eBay every now and then, along with the
How is the Blue Rhodes Dances 12 - anyone?
I loved Tokyo Story and if it's in that vicinity...
jef
Crappy resolution, but as long as we're on this bus...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtIPD5lbsx8
Is that guitar even plugged in ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM
m
Wasn't she a Journalism major at Kent State before she joined The
Pretenders?
jeff
Fred Heutte wrote:
That NME interview is something. And I had forgotten that Chrissie
Hynde was a staff writer for a short while (I'm an unabashed, long
term fan of hers). She's
And which are you faves YMO/Logic System/Sakamoto/Hosono LPs???
I'd have to relisten to my Logic System material to make one pick (HIstory Of
is a safe Bet) but for Hosono, S-F-X, Philharmony and Mercuric Dance (the last
is ambient, the others *not* - they're prime early/mid-80s technopop).
Erm... no offense, but I sub to urban dictionary's daily email and I
wouldn't quote them as a source for anything, especially urban slang.
Yesterday's entry :
Urban Word of the Day
December 09, 2006: Hasselhoffing
The act of changing a colleague's desktop
J.T. wrote:
i like the sound of the rendezvous track, not super special, but lovely and
big..
I love the fade on that one.
jeff
Cyclone Wehner wrote:
I just wondered what were the cult Lene Lovich records in Detroit
back in the day? I remember I raised something like this before but I
have forgotten! Funny to think she now writes lyrics for Bob Sinclar,
ahem! Anyway, I finally tracked down The Best Of... in
Who's running the Ai shop?
Anyone know?
thanks.
jeff
Has the new Haiman been mentioned on the list yet?
It really, really should be. Louis has outdone himself. Deep, lush
Detroity-techno.
I know Chris Schubert's debut was discussed briefly (redefines
'pop-ambient' with -imho- great success) and I wholeheartedly agree with
the positive
Not for sure, but try Smallfish if nothing else works..
jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ShXt! As JT will attest I mailed him only today to see if they were coming
to
my doorstep Rush
Rod has a pile of stuff in the can which will leak out eventually.
He's not in any hurry. I'm not sure what new set of Octals are all ab out other
than they're collabs between Sickenger, Ruxpin and (I think) tweaked by Mr.
Modell.
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From:
ahem
It's gone quite a good deal past that. IDM-l is pretty tame these days
and this one gets the b*tchlist award amongst any I'm currently haunting.
jeff
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
I'm glad to see we've upped the level of discourse on
music is probably the most universal language there is for
the human species. the best music does the same thing, reguardless of
who made it or where it comes from.
--
i guess i could have made this post more simple by saying it's just not
so black
Kent say:
a. gross generalisations or sweeping judgements
These are always wrong, even if they're right.
--
b. equating one's opinions with fact
This is probably the most annoying, asinine and snarkiest of the problems.
We all feel like we can 'spot' quality in some
...and realizing that they're next in line.
jeff
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From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We get our payoff up front, watching the kids being clowns.
On 8/28/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no
http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=EF-2008-2Category_Code=mixes
-- Original message --
From: Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i've stumbled across somwhere in detroit mix series done by b. calloway
and dj dex on
I have the CD mixed by De Hey and like it.
Also killer is the Lifeworks v.1 3xLP on Open Mind.
http://www.discogs.com/release/740602
jeff
Just checking clips of the 12 vinyl sampler for this.
Nice Dexter track Echt Vet.
Anyone heard the full
This just dropped into my inbox from the netaudio group, directed to
netlabel owners:
snip
=
The German Institution GEMA www.gema.de (German equivalent to RIAA)
will NOT allow GEMA Acts on Netlabels for free, because they will bill
your DOWNLOADS (12,5 european Cent per Download)
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-lee5aug05,1,7428885.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-californiactrack=1cset=true
Free this Sunday evening at 10:15 pm - part of the yearly Concert of
Colors @ the Max M. Fisher Music Center on Woodward (moved from Shane
Park - ?)
http://www.accesscommunity.org/coc/Schedule.html
It sounds like a version of The Aristocrats. :-)
jeff
Provocative sonic propagation?
This is how invision this ?ber heady event:
Participant: Please, please, let's hear about your childhood.
T. Brinkmann: Very well. Where do I begin? My father was a
.
theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/06/2006 7:08 am
Nice, dub-edged techno here. Not sure from which corner this emerged,
but I'm game for more. Supposedly this is from some 'mystery
producer'...
It has a basic sound you'd expect from a certain channel - or I could
just be experiencing some kind
Nice, dub-edged techno here. Not sure from which corner this emerged,
but I'm game for more. Supposedly this is from some 'mystery producer'...
It has a basic sound you'd expect from a certain channel - or I could
just be experiencing some kind of chain reaction.
I haven't seen Spacetime live for a good 11-12 years, but he was excellent when
I did.
-- Original message --
From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mixmaster Morris
Spacetime Continuum (Live)
Woah!
(wild!)
what's with the new sleeves they're sporting lately?
Looks like a Cramps audition! The new Losoul isn't half-bad, though.
jeff
afaik, a box of the old (1-3) SIDs were found - I don't think they were
repressed.
I have been wrong before, though.
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Heard about the old SIDs repressed?
I've seen 10, 11 and 12 up on eBay recently (and only there).
The seller said they were handed out at a party.
jeff
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Hum, so SID 10 is a newie! (original SIDs wnet from number 1 to 7).
What is it like?
I had forgotten about the 1990 Woodstock thing entirely. That should give some
clue about my age - I was starting to reply about how I wasn't actually at
Woodstock because I would have been kicked out by parents for hitchhiking to
New York! The Woodstock I know was all peace/love/dope. No
jurren baars wrote:
On 6/4/06, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...not minimal to my ears, either: http://www.discogs.com/release/687844
(and I'm not an antiminimalist. I like atoms.)
didn't buy above mentioned lp (...yet, i may eventually buy it for arp)
but i did buy
...who is behind Dead Letter Drop #1?
jeff
I'll echo that - except I discovered the small bathroom right above the
underground stage *did* have the cold water on...after I had spent
probably $15 on 'smart' (for whom??) water. Lesson learned.
jeff
Main criticism I had
there was a water fountain near the food court area that was free and
cold, strangely i guess not many people knew about it since there
wasnt even a line!
That's because it was shut completely off (purposely - the valve just
behind the knob was shut off) on Saturday. I wrenched it back on
...not minimal to my ears, either:
http://www.discogs.com/release/687844
(and I'm not an antiminimalist. I like atoms.)
jeff
On 6/4/06, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...not minimal to my ears, either:
http://www.discogs.com/release/687844
(and I'm not an antiminimalist. I like atoms.)
im still not convinced by this guy. though i think he did a radioslave
edit of one thing by amerie that ive been
They have a new full length out (on SCSI) as well, called A Previous
Version of Myself. I have it, but haven't played it yet.
jeff
Tristan Watkins wrote:
This is the new Point B on SCSI.
Yeah - great stuff indeed.
jeff
-- Original message --
From: Emile Facey - Plant43 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I listened to that in Smallfish on Saturday but wasn't really digging it,
must give it another listen. Have you heard the Made album
It was both up and down.
jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob Hood ignites the crowd at the main stage
http://www.jameshurlbut.net/demf06/video/robhood1.mpg
Did they move the Main Stage back up to the top of
I meant that some artists were up a level higher than others, which may have
saved some setup times. Nobody was actually down in the bowl, but some were
closer to it than others.
jeff
-- Original message --
From: Frank [EMAIL
I didn't hear of any deaths due to laced heroin at the fest - local
media did a big story on the laced heroin epidemic in Detroit with stock
footage of the fest running the whole time in the background; this was
one or two days before it started.
I understand the need to make it a public
This is really not related to the current thread, but just because it
was a matter of discussion recently, I have it on pretty good authority
that Carl *asked* to have the noon spot tomorrow - so it wasn't a matter
of disrespect.
If you need relevance clarified, a few years back I lent Clark Warner
Liz Copeland the bulk of my YMO (and offshoot projects) CD collection
for Liz's Focus Electronic show on WDET which was exploring the roots
of techno/electronic music. Bryan Bickel (r.i.p.) knew I was a major
J-Pop fan and
forwarded at the request of Wojtek:
Here's a link to an unreleased Kenny Larkin track someone had from a
while back, taped from an Alan Oldham radio show:
http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=98695#1293996
Wojtek
J.T. wrote:
look for a convextion/maetrik split 12 on ai in the near future
Great news!
jeff
Just invoke Hitler and it will kill the thread. Rick cannot trump Hitler.
j
-- Original message --
From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can't. There's no turning back once his voice fills the air or gets in
As long as we're talking about what was cultivated in Detroit and
spread/was co-opted/propagated across the pond, the Plant43/Datasette
12 on Ai sounds really nice on these ears. I hope Ai keeps churning
them out in the calibre of this and the recent 06 sampler. I'm not an
...this could be a sure end to Detroit's financial woes!
City Council Approves Cell Phone Ban
Council Voted 8-1
POSTED: 12:49 pm EDT May 3, 2006
Drivers in the city of Detroit will have to end their calls, as a cell phone
ban has been approved.
The Detroit City Council
I'll toss my hat on to that hatrack as well.
There are things I could easily skip in the list - but there have always been
things I could easily skip (well - maybe not as easily as a few of these :-). I
would also add that C2 pulled in things that 'weren't Detroit' as well (e.g.,
Tortoise,
Dan Bean wrote:
I'm hoping that they're just putting the 'big names' up on the website because
they think it will attract a non-specialist audience...
Not a very encouraging sign.
At the bottom is does say more local acts are TBA.
This is neither her nor there but I think the contact person (below, at
the top of the blurb) is one of my wife's former high school students.
Small world.
jeff
Hurrah!
On 23 Mar 2006, at 19:03, Roberto Ty wrote:
March
One Look isn't too shabby, either.
http://www.onelook.com/
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But before you do, note down in your exercise book that the usage
guidance for the word 'quality' in Webster's New World dictionary (yeah
I know, it's not orthodox, but what
Hmmm...interesting can of worms, especially if one has an OED handy and can
check the history of
spelling changes. :-)
OED = NOT free. Steep subscription price on that one, unless you have daemon
tools and a bittorrent client.
http://www.oed.com/
Some of the stuff from Ai over the past year or so hasn't been as hot as some
before it imo...I really liked the Normal, Michael Manning, Jacen Solo Dez
Williams and Claro Intelecto 12s. The Estate, Gemote Leisure comps were
nice as well. FZV sounded good to these ears too. Yunx's Snake in
I DO have daemon tools and a bittorrent client. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is: http://dictionary.oed.com/
-
Hmmm...interesting can of worms, especially if one has an OED
Anyone pining for the glory days of Warp (when Detroit, techno and what
branched off into idm were still bubbling in a less segregated stew) would do
well to spend some time with the new Ai compilation. The label has issued some
nice things over the past several years, but this one is
/0 wrote:
anyone? I want to talk music, not to an agent
-Joe
Vibes (his store) used to be listed in the phone bookdon't have the
number handy anymore.
jeff
Logic system is an alias for Hideki Matsutake, who worked closely with YMO for
years - if Logic System was meant.
You might try Art Union or a few more of the usual likely subjects for music
shops in Japan.
jeff
-- Original
Francis Gosselin wrote:
Don't have an answer for this one, but actually a related question.
Browsing discogs.com, I've just come across that Japanese label that
put out the last Time:Space vol.2 in collaboration with Transmat a
couple of years back (called catalog.), and I noticed they had 3
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
I'm surprised you like this, sakke. :)
thanks for the tip, seek. I just picked their/his 12 this evening.
so far thumbs up
He has a ton of them. Of the 3 newest, I'm partial to Dirty Bed.
jeff
I just played a Dubbyman 12 on this label which was quite nice in my ears.
What's the story on the rest of this label?
jeff
Maybe, but it's been done - and they usually fetch a higher bin price.
The boots of Alexander Robotnick's Problemes D'Amour (back with Night Moves'
Transdance) are reportedly done by Benelux, the label which put both of those
sides out. I have no inside info, so I don't know if that's true OR if
If you're in the US, I've always found Needle Doctor to have good advice on
replacing stylus and or cartridges
http://www.needledoctor.com/
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My sister recently bought my dad some awful retro
radio style music centre with built in
I can't help wondering if the B12 crew is behind them.
I've heard stories of Steve Pickton booting his old 12s himself - dunno how
true they are, but I do know I bought 2 or 3 Likeminds from the man himself a
few years ago. And there's not been a shortage of Interim/Outerim and the
ART/B12
Someone was asking about these...they're nice, clean, good sounding
presses and look a lot like the originals with the etching in the runout
grooves scratched out.
Same label faces as appear at Discogs. Black vinyl. Thus far I've
seen/have B1201, 04 06.
Remco Doorewaard wrote:
Hi,
On the rushhour mailing I saw a repress of 3 B12 records (the musicology
ones, B1201, B1204 and B1206).
I presume these are bootlegs as well, since B12 stopped making/releasing
music?
Or are they legit? Anyone know the sound quality?
Thanks, Remco
Dunno -
Matt Kane's Brain wrote:
It's the hook from Computer LOVE and the Coldplay version is called
Talk.
Unfortunately my fiancee is a bit of a fan :(
We have some good friends who have been similarly inflicted.
Coldplay is, for them, the pinnacle of music.
Other than scheduling Eman Laerton to
From what I remember of the thread from last year, I believe it was
okayed by the Kwerkies.
jeff
My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the
comparison and she said Kraftwerk should sue. I hope Kraftwerk
Compatibility isn't always about similarity.
I used to be in an industrial/synth outfit (briefly) about 25 years ago
wherein one of the other members who was this really intense
stared-too-long-stood-too-close-wore -leather-stuff Plasmatics fan type
married a paradigmaticmatic tupperware woman
There's a fairly new 2x12 called Electronic Generation which spills
over into this category as well.
Great stuff.
jeff
Some other Theo Parrish/KDJ influenced labels would have to include
Freude-Am-Tamzen and Soul Phiction - both fairly similar
Anyone heard the new 12 - this is not your father's Dr. Mabuse.
They've left the past behind and well, sound current. Haven't made up my
mind about what that means yet.
jeff
Anyone heard this? Some FINE sides here...
jeff
-- Original message --
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Is anyone planning to go? (Or planning on going?)
I work for GM - I've never been a 'car guy'.
jeff
I've been selling there steadily for the past 4 years or so - always have a mix
of techno from all over, house, idm and indie - some old rock sometimes as well.
eBay is and always has been a crapshoot - sometimes you can snag excellent
deals, sometimes people bid things up to silly places.
And a nasty one, according to Dickens. David Byron affirms it.
jeff
Uriah Heep is a way of life!
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