Your talking about Pop super stardom.
A mere mention on MTV, mainstream magazines you see at your local
7-11 convenient store like Rolling Stone is pretty significant.
This means people like Derrick May have established a legacy, a
name for themselves in the music industry's eye.
They've already
the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry starting
around the mid to late
90's
Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be
scientifically proven, a
primitive concept based in tradition.
Ignoring for a second statements from the artists about how the
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:34:39 -0700 (PDT), spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
the term soul had a resergance in trend with the music industry
starting around the mid to late
90's
Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be
scientifically proven, a
primitive concept based in
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From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be
scientifically proven, a
primitive concept based in tradition.
i bet if you try REALLY REALLY HARD, you could say something even
more
On 6/22/03 7:34 PM, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Soul is only a figment of the hu-man imagination which can not be
scientifically proven, a
primitive concept based in tradition.
And so it becomes clear. You ARE channeling the spirit of Criswell from
Plan 9 from Outer Space.
You see -- your
I hear simple tracks composed on drum machines and synthesizers, 4/4 16-
step sequences.
Derrick May isn't exactly Van Cliburn competition material if you know
what I mean in fact Stings Of Life was more like good production/ editing
skills but I'm glad to
see him establish a name for himself in
Trivial point I know but:
Stings of Life
spw
?!?!
I guess it would be an appropriate title given those infamous sampled string
stabs, which even my younger sister remembers, although she doesn't know
where from ...
Or maybe spw's spelling is just as poor as his reasoning ooh -
something
It's not only with dance music culture but with more mainstream music like
rock, country (artist
going back to blue grass, folk music roots) genres like neo-soul (coke classic
commercials)electronica Pop artsit like Moby.
Pick up and read magazines like Rolling Stone, Vibe, I'm sure youll have no
nonsense.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, spw wrote:
It's not only with dance music culture but with more mainstream music like
rock, country (artist
going back to blue grass, folk music roots) genres like neo-soul (coke classic
commercials)electronica Pop artsit like Moby.
Pick up and read
I think he has, artist like Jay-Z and Herbbie Hancock are well aware of who
Derrick May is, I
think Carl Craig is more popular though.
Someone told they saw highlights of the DEMF on MTV which is about as
mainstream as it gets.
Carl Craig has been featured in mainstream American magazines like
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i bet if you try REALLY REALLY HARD, you could say something even
more stupid than this. id tell you to soul search to really get
into it, but that would be futile.
No it isn't if you think about it and observe the evidence.
There's a great
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No it isn't if you think about it and observe the evidence.
There's a great documentary on PBS about animal behavior, they
had one
of the great chimpanzee researchers describe how she thinks the
first
Oh - ok, you're talking about being *mentioned* in some mainstream press
(if being on a magazine rack equates mainstream then so is High Times and
Juxtapose) -
this is different that being recognized.
MTV - when Carl Craig walks onto TRL and the crowd outside hold up signs
saying I (heart)
I think maybe what David was trying to say is there is a series of
exchanges, a dialetic? I am sure no one here would dispute that
African-Americans have been the driving force behind today's pop cultures. I
think you guys are in agreement. There's just been a misunderstanding
because of the
What I am talking about is a tactic of cultural survival in the face of
slavery, oppresion and genocide. This is not simply about an exchange fo
cultural ideas, although exchanges do happen
The problem faced by Africans of the diaspora was: what do we do when the
master takes away our drums,
The problem faced by Africans of the diaspora was: what do we do when the
master
takes away our drums, our language, our religion, by force? The answer, as
far
as I see, is that they took what they had, even if it was part of the
masters'
culture, and transformed it in order to
Yeah, it is...but a lot of things used to be black people music too.
Although jazz was pioneered by black artists...who is the most well known
jazz musician today?
Kenny G?
(What happened to Coltrane and Miles Davis?)
Um, they died. I would also suspect that these datys Winston Marsalis is
Its discussions like this that really makes me hate techno and everyone that
goes with it.
|-Original Message-
|From: Sylvia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: 18 June 2003 23:52
|To: David Powers
|Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going
|on
Borrowed ? say What ? Kind of comment can just come from a perfect
imbecile
who is a waste of human flesh, and his only use on this earth is to take up
space, God knows why, thank you very much for your brilliant comments,
Whoa, Sylvia, chill the f*ck out for a second. I questioned David too
|On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for
|black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual
|or metaphysical concept.
Euphemism
'blues' is without hope and that its singers accept their conditions without
complaint or expectation of anything
On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for
black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul
as a spiritual or metaphysical concept.
Random tangent : did any uk peeps see the soul documentary with trevor
nelson last night ? Was pretty interesting stuff !
Peace,
Random tangent : did any uk peeps see the soul documentary with trevor
nelson last night ? Was pretty interesting stuff !
Peace,
Marc
Yeah man, I've always been pretty fascinated by that old Wigan Northen Soul
scene. Looked like a wicked scene when it was happening. If I'd been 10 years
There was this show on lastnight about soul music. Bunch of poms strutting
around in pastel colours and getting naked at beach raves listening to soul.
Was amusing :-)
|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: 17 June 2003 23:58
|To: David Powers
Random tangent : did any uk peeps see the soul documentary with trevor
nelson last night ? Was pretty interesting stuff !
Yeah, yeah, I saw it. Thought it was really good.
Kind of a different perspective on it all.
Deffo an essex boys take on soul.
Did you see Norman Jay talking about Wigan? I
really enjoyed it and it reminded me of when I listened to Loose Ends,
Imagination
and all those people when I was 8/9 and then I moved onto Hip Hop. Its funny
how
long all this has been going on :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 June 2003
Great post. I may have been misinformed, I was thinking about it more in terms
of the classifying of music by the record labels than the meaning of the music
for the people who made it. Now I'm trying to remember which label it was that
the record industry used, maybe it was RB?
And
Sounds heavy
|-Original Message-
|From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: 18 June 2003 16:31
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Powers
|Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going
|on about)
|
|
|Great post. I may have been misinformed,
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Sylvia wrote:
|On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for
|black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual
|or metaphysical concept.
Euphemism
'blues' is without hope and that its singers accept their conditions
because African-Americans have always borrowed from
the white European tradition,
Borrowed ? say What ? Kind of comment can just come from a perfect imbecile
who is a waste of human flesh, and his only use on this earth is to take up
space, God knows why, thank you very much for your brilliant
On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for
black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual
or metaphysical concept.
The hell it doesn't have a spiritual concept! Where the hell do you think
Soul music came from?
Listen to Ray Charles man, and then
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