the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol worshiping in my opinion is
why didn't we hear
more of that sound when they played live in the late 80's, early 90's, or eve
mid 90's?
They are obviously influenced by todays dance trends, I don't see their music
as being really that
original,
of steam as it were,
but to say that they were'nt original is way off the mark.
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From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make futuristic
sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding on
synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds
--- spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I
can make futuristic sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and
electronic sounding on synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating
A stunning observation!
-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make futuristic
and comparisons (and that
type of thinking is usually condusive to broader horizons), but you really
do put your foot in your mouth alot...
Dennis
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From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:00 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I can make
futuristic sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding
on synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds
now, thats what i call CLASSIC ;)
fab
--- Bleep43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see their music as being really that
original?
er. so who else sounds like them then? And who did they copy? Or is
this another classic spw wind-up?
I can see what you are saying about them being around at the same time as
electronic
and entertaining - it's
*educational* too!
-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 July 2003 15:00
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: look I
can
that original.
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From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 July 2003 15:07
To: Brendan Nelson
Cc: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video
rock is just the sound of electrified strings, plucked, and
acoustic drums
hmmm i
I just made my point with the man machine concept, which is a conventional
way of interpreting
technology at the time.
Their music was not unconventional and abstract like say a Mortin Subotnick.
I don't know your age or which particular era of Kraftwerk you're
referencing (there is
look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
just interested to know.
Thanks.
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 July 2003 15:23
look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic
question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with
out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.
Is this true?
just interested to know.
--
This taken from:
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
just interested to know.
Thanks.
Alex
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individual, non
I think this was eloquently answered by JT just now Alex - something about
their influence seeping into the collective unconcious (those latter two are
my words, but I think - *think*) that's what JT meant. So we all have no
need to exhume any argument about who did what first! ;-)
Indeed -
Detroit, you have to look at a DJ called Electrifying Mojo: he had five
hours every night, with no format restrictions. It was on his show that I
first heard Kraftwerk.
Right, cool. Thanks for that. I was interested because I couldn't believe
it!
It's just well, I dunno, out of the 'belleville
On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, Dave Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'? as this was relased around the same
time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space... I don't know which one
was first.
I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after Alleys. A better
inspiration for
Apologies if you get this twice, because I recieved it through 313, but it
appears no one else did...
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From: Dennis Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:29 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Tour de France
well even the video is a bit lame, lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime
I feel safe saying
this even before their new albums comes out.
At least they have descent taste in newer dance music and haven't tried to go
the mainstream dance
rout with genres like trance.
My complaint isn't with
spw
well even the video is a bit lame,
you think? I think its a pretty cool vid. I'd rather watch this that a lot
of the trash you get on MTV?
I liked it, got a little buzz from the first time watching it.
lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime I feel safe saying
this even before their new
Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is almost becoming a bad cliche.
--- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
The video of Kraftwerk's Tour de France 03 is no online at kraftwerk.com:
http://www.kraftwerk.com/video/TDF03_real.html
Enjoy,
Hans
1) i saw the real tour de france the other day
2) kraftwerk, i think, inhabit cliches quite well.
3) kraftwerk doing basic channel seems very intriguing, innovative or not.
ben
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, spw wrote:
Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is
When they played live in Paris last year, they produced music which
seemed somehow to absorb many different elements of electronic music
from the past 20 years, including Basic Channel's trademark incessant
repetitive dub AND Jeff Mill's intricate string-laden Axis soundscapes
without being
yea sure...thats all they are trying to do is sound like basic channelonce
again you have made me laugh
michael
www.renegaderhythms.com
spw wrote:
Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing.
That sound is almost becoming a bad cliche.
--- Hans Veneman [EMAIL
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