Re: festival represent
The free Bang Tech 12 party at Bookie's is a great Friday spot. Starts at 3 PM. With Bucharest Grill down the street, it's a win win. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Rob Theakston wrote: > > Maybe next year > > >> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: >> Just hit the streets of the D. Going to this thingie tonight at the Red >> Bull place >> in Eastern Market -- Jerry Abstract (now in Portland, we had a good >> time when Carlos Souffront came up from SF last month to do a gig) >> and others... >> >> https://www.facebook.com/events/1434539443464848 >> >> Tomorrow, the Tigers but before that, the Detroit Sound Conservancy >> at DPL. This looks really great, got a nice short piece in MT also: >> >> http://blogs.metrotimes.com/music-blahg/city-slang-detroit-sound-conservancys-sound- >> conference-friday/ >> >> After that, see you everywhere . . . is it time for another 313 pizza >> gathering? >> >> peace >> >> fh >> 503.757-6222 >
Re: (313) Return to a free DEMF on July 4th?
I have a pretty good idea what's been happening downtown and what's not been happening in the rest of the city having lived there most of my life. Chess pieces are great, but there is a long way to go before positive progress is achieved; regular neighborhoods need to start turning around. I honesty don't think that Detroit is not at the stage to support two large techno festivals, especially since they are not together. I hope it can, but I don't see it. If this new festival would have been scheduled, say the following weekend after Movement, I could see some of the "unity" and community the article alludes to. After parties and day raves could have been the glue and the two fests the book ends. And no, I have no idea what Carol does for a living. What I do remember is that a lot of people weren't paid when she was last at the helm and next thing I heard she moved on and started ravestivals in other cities. Kudos to her. If she's been sleeping on a bed made of money this whole time, why did it take a decade for DEMF to come back? Just curious. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, "U&I Design" > wrote: > > I know there's a lot of out of towners that will pick one versus the > other... but truthfully, I know a helluva lot of folks that will > appreciate the fact that they can put travel options into their > calendar. Not everyone in the world is available Memorial Day > Weekend... we'll get more people coming here if they have two > different months to choose from. I'm just saying this is the feedback > that I've gotten from friends of mine overseas. > > And as for "where did all this money materialize from"... you must > have no idea what Carol does for a living, or what has been happening > in the city in the past 6 months... and no, I'm not talking about the > bankruptcy... check out what's occurred with the Detroit 300 > Conservancy and their Event Calendar, look at all of the changes to > downtown, the Chess Boards with life size chess pieces people are > playing on the sidewalk, all of the recent stores that have popped up, > there's some really crazy things happening here... and there's plenty > of money available if you know the right people, have a good idea with > good planning behind it, and most importantly, a well connected team > to implement it. > > Detroit's changing... and I 100% believe there's room for 2 major > Electronic Music Festivals of this size here in our city. I can't > wait for the conference, and I will be paying the money, it sure is > cheaper than me traveling to Miami's WMC, and considering its in > Detroit, I can guarantee the conference / technology part itself is > gonna be way sweeter than WMC... I mean, seriously... why are people > complaining about this idea? > Jodie Svagr > > 313-915-1164 > uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com > Events, Promotions, & Development > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Denise Dalphond > wrote: >> The idea is interesting, but the reality is kind of strange. I suppose there >> is room, ideologically and spatially, for ten festivals, but it's doubtful >> that there will be enough people and money to fulfill expectations. >> >> The Real Detroit article is terrible. The writing is so bad (I'm a writer, >> that's why I'm focusing on it). And yeah, Rachel Skotarczyk seems to be >> Crazy for Carol. There's a weird, one-dimensional sense of history in the >> article. I take it personally cause I write about this stuff and it's so >> important to me. I try to not get so worked up, but geez, you guys. >> >> The talk of unity is an everyday theme around Detroit. Everyone wants it. >> Some make it happen. The best unity is the stuff that happens every day of >> the year in small ways. True support and camaraderie. It does happen. >> >> The tech part at Ford Field gets my nerdo vibes going, but no way I'm >> spending that kind of money for it. >> >> The thing that is worrisome is that Carol Marvin already damaged >> relationships with Derrick, Kevin, and Carl, and now she's dealing with Juan >> and Rik. It will be interesting to see what actually comes of it. I'm with >> Jwan, wait and see. >> >> If this thing really does happen, and Cybotron plays, you know I'll be >> there. (I only have to drive a short distance.) BUT YOU KNOW I'LL BE >> THERE! >> >> Denise >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM, kent williams >> wrote: >>> >>> I went to Detroit Taste Fest on the 4th of July weekend 2002, and saw >>> War, Joan Jett, and John Aquaviva. Top that, Carol Marvin. >>> >>> I am going to try hard to be around DEMF weekend, but I may not >>> actually go to the festival. It's tempting to go back again in July. >>> The weather in July is more to my liking anyway. >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Alex Lugo wrote: And there is always this timeless gem: http://www2.metrotimes.com/music/story.asp?id=3296 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:17 PM, Alex Lugo wrote:
Re: (313) what up Detroit
If you're gonna eat anything in Detroit this year, hit up Bucharest Grill on Park an Elizabeth, next to Cliff Bells and adjacent to Park Bar. Their chicken and beef shawarmas are overtaking the ubiquitous coney dog as Detroit's favorite snack. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2012, at 1:39 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > I have not been to plaka in YEARS. What time? > > On May 26, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: > >> I suggest Plaka. >> >> On May 26, 2012 11:42 AM, wrote: >> 313 dinner Sunday sounds great. Where we meeting? >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: >> >> > Back again and ready to take it all on, although it's going to be hot >> > this weekend and I'm planning to take things back from +4 to +1 >> > as a result : ) >> > >> > Not happy the Tigers aren't in town, but so it goes. >> > >> > 313 should do a dinner get-together or something... Sunday? >> > >> > cheers >> > >> > fh >> > > > > > >
Re: (313) nothing ventured...
Interesting. Apparently Detroit is full of crap once again. Check this out: http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?13675-Bing-Declares-May-20-May-28th-Detroit-Techno-Week Apparently Bing typed some BS on paper, but as usual in Detroit, truth is stranger than fiction. Stay safe everyone! Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2012, at 2:18 AM, Fred Heutte wrote: > Went to the "Toxic Tempest" at the 4731 (Grand River) gallery -- > the flyer had TP, Johnny Fiasco, others, looked good. More info > about the space at 4731.com > > Well you don't have to guess how it turned out. > > When I arrived around 12:30 TP was playing Din Daa Daa and other > classics and starting to work up a pretty good set, though there were > only about 40 people in the 4th floor gallery space. > > Good sound system, well stocked bar -- but if I say "blind pig" you say... > "party's over"... and sure enough at 1:15, hello po-po, a couple street > uniforms and about six plain clothes come running in and in a very > disorganized and yet predictably ill-mannered way shuffled most of > us out after checking IDs. Under 21s and the crew were held inside > and I'm not sure what happened. > > Outside, Johnny Fiasco looked pretty crestfallen -- he's a good guy, > good DJ and has done some tracks from the day that I still play. > But he's heading back to Chicago I think without getting a chance to > play here... > > Heck of a way to start the weekend. But as always, nothing > ventured, nothing gained. > > fh >
Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.
I thought that was VH1! :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: > "edm crossover to mainstream" > > Same as it ever was. > > fh > > PS They still actually have music on MTV?! > > - >> My head just exploded… >> >> >> http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html >> >> >> Peace, >> Patrick. >> >> >> >> >
Re: (313) It's been a while ...
Definitely remember you. Your futuristic car drawing has been my desktop background since way back when. :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:27 PM, balis...@bprince.com wrote: > Yo guys, > > Not sure how many here will remember me, but I used to post a bit. I kind of > dropped out of the music thing after my EP on Melodika came out in - geez - I > think it was 2005. Got a job in LA that demanded entirely too much of my > time, so the tunes ended up on the backburner for a while. > > Anyhow, I'm dipping my toes back in the techno waters, fully aware that I'm > still pretty rusty: > > http://soundcloud.com/brianprince/miss-mercury > > It's download-enabled, on the off-chance you like it. Any feedback is > welcome. > > I'll try not to fall off the face of the Earth for a while ... > > - bp > http://www.bprince.com > >
Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)
I hope all the legal issues have been ironed out, and both artists that spent years in a basement and elsewhere are properly compensated. I miss James terribly and wish that Gerald was still in the hood, but he is living a better quality of life. :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Rob Taylor wrote: > this is a great way to engage with an artist's music. i have done similar > projects with the works of autechre, coil, scott walker and nurse with wound. > very rewarding experiences. :) > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: > Since August 1st I've been trying to concentrate entirely on devouring > the oeuvre of Gerald Donald and James Stinson (R.I.P.). We're talking > about 24 full hours of music over about 45-50 albums, EPs, and singles > including all their various pseudonyms. The reason I am doing this is > because I find their music to be relatively tricky to wrap my head > around in general, while so many of my friends consider Stinson/Donald > to be among the best of their contemporaries. Specifically a lot of > Stinson/Donald tunes sound particularly chaotic even to my modern ears > well trained in noise, avant garde, and the repetitive loops of > minimal classical (Steve Reich, Philip Glass) and "techno" music. I > wondered if completely saturating my ears with only their music would > change my opinion/enlighten me to their supposed genius at all. > > To date I am about halfway through the project based on mostly casual > subway ride listening, and I've not been as diligent in avoiding the > fast forward button as I'd hoped I could be. It's really difficult to > stick to one artist who produced a pretty consistent style of music > without listening to anything else for such an extended period of > time. I do occasionally give my ears a bit of a break and allow myself > to hear some non Stinson/Donald tunage. > > To date "Wavejumper" from their 1995 "Aquatic Invasion EP" remains my > absolute favorite Drexciya tune: > > http://youtu.be/imKh_TKqHt4 > > As a side note, the name I've given this experiment - Drexciyan > Immersion Project - is a kind of funny nod to the sci-fi underwater > mythology that Drexciya built around their music/built their music > around. > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jason Kenjar wrote: > > an undiscovered track or three would be nice..i can dream rite? > > > > On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote: > > > >> Some interesting news on the wire: > >> > >> http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/09/drexciya-reissues-coming-soon > >> > >> Sadly, it's been nearly a decade since early '90s Detroit > >> techno/electro duo Drexciya last released new music. However, we've > >> just discovered that reissues of the pair's early material will be > >> surfacing in the near future. Clone Classic Cuts, the reissues imprint > >> for Dutch label Clone, announced just yesterday: "We will reissue the > >> early Drexciya catalogue on Clone. We are currently busy restoring the > >> original master tapes, and hopefully we will have the first one ready > >> before the end of the year! Of course, we will keep you updated on the > >> process." No further details were shared, but the news itself is > >> certainly exciting, to say the least. (via FACT) > > > > > > > > -- > peace, > > frank > > http://www.deejaycountzero.com > http://www.infinitestatemachine.com >
Re: (313) Looking busy: Rephlex in Chicago and Ypsilanti
Bangtech 12 was fabulous this year. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:50 PM, "logic7" wrote: > The explanation could have been a bit simpler: > > Prior to 1997, Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor (along with Belleville) were a part > of the 313 area code. (hahahahahahaha) > > Other than that, crews like Bangtech12 and the like brought Detroit Techno > to the Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti area in the 90's and early in the millenium > (myself included for the years I lived in Ypsi). Even the much maligned (on > this list anyways) Unsel Brown did his part to attract attention to the > area. > > > -Original Message- > From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:07 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Looking busy: Rephlex in Chicago and Ypsilanti > > Hey all, I've been asked why Ypsilanti is 313 related, and I thought it > would be super fun to explain that publicly. > > In my experience, Detroit techno is much bigger than Detroit, and much > bigger than one strictly defined genre of music. Obviously the influence is > global, so that is one way that it reaches beyond Detroit. But the whole > region of southeast Michigan is central to the history of techno, and > electronic dance music in general. The Electrifying Mojo started his radio > program in Ann Arbor on AM radio in the mid 1970s. Detroit techno founders, > Juan, Derrick, Kevin, and Eddie, all spent significant parts of their youth > in Belleville. WCBN, out of Ann Arbor, had a significant impact on listeners > who are now totally awesome electronic music producers and/or DJs in this > area like Tadd Mullinix, Todd Osborn, and Carlos Souffront. Brendan Gillen > transformed Crush Collision on WCBN from a primarily jazz program to a dope > electronic music program. Erika Sherman (of Ectomorph with > Brendan) also spent some years in Ann Arbor and DJing on WCBN. Lots of > Detroit DJs, during the 1970s - 1990s played in Ann Arbor. > > I'm still not addressing Ypsilanti directly, I know. I just want to > emphasize that I think Detroit techno is part of a much larger, and diverse, > regional culture and history. Ypsilanti of 10, or even 5 years ago, probably > wasn't super connected to Detroit in terms of electronic music. However, it > is becoming one stop along the regional techno circuit. There are a number > of people who live in Ypsi, or spend time and energy in Ypsi, who are > significant to the contemporary state of Detroit electronic music. Todd > Osborn is one in particular. > He is the reason why this Rephlex event is happening at Woodruff's in Ypsi. > Todd hosts a regular Sunday night at Woodruff's and DJs other parties there. > Plus Woodruff's is becoming a really great musical and cultural space, in > general. > > I'd love to hear others thoughts on this! > > Denise > > > >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Denise Dalphond > wrote: >>> Ypsilanti makes it 313 related!!! Plus, Todd Osborn and Tadd Mullinix >>> round out the Detroit nicely. >>> >>> A little post I put up about Rephlex 20th anniversary events >>> happening in the midwest this weekend: >>> >>> http://schoolcraftwax.com/2011/08/30/rephlex-is-twenty/ >>> >>> -- >>> Denise Dalphond >>> Ph.D. Candidate >>> Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology Indiana University >>> http://schoolcraftwax.com/ >>> >> > > > > -- > Denise Dalphond > Ph.D. Candidate > Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology > Indiana University > http://schoolcraftwax.com/ >
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Yeah, he's been looking like that for a few years now. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:18 PM, kent williams wrote: > BMG is starting to look like a Deadhead! > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, DJ Shiva wrote: >> At least the ruin porn is well shot. ;) >> >> shiva >> http://www.soundcloud.com/djshiva >> >> "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet >> day, I can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, kent williams wrote: >>> http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1382 >>> >>> Pretty OK, except for the cliche of ruin porn. >>> >>> But check out Derek Plaslaiko dancing like a madman about 11:32 >>> >>
Re: (313) OK Kent, I see your point
Sadly, Detroit has devolved to the way of the gun. The future that was foretold in the early music here has been lost. Peace, Alex Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Marina Tang wrote: > quite a profound statement and it leads me to believe that you may > understand it (Detroit Techno) more than you realize. ;) > > -M. > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Diego Simak wrote: > >> Tango music is a style that I think represents the sadness of the city for >> example, among other things that represent the people that lives in this >> part of the world, the melancholy and hard life, the love appointment's, the >> fight's between men to show who is more brave, just to name a few.
Re: (313) Fwd: Thomas Cox playing records in Detroit this Thursday nite Oct 7th
What, Tom can't send his own emails? I'll be there on Thursday just to ask him. :) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:55 AM, kent williams wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > if you could pass this along to 313 it would be greatly appreciated > > Time: Thursday at 9:30pm - Friday at 2:00am > Location: Pulse Detroit > 156 Monroe st > Detroit, MI > > Residents Todd Weston and Guy Lafleur have been out to Pittsburgh > numerous times this past year and are finally bringing > > Thomas Cox (Pittsburgh, Love What You Feel) > > Thomas is a true lover of good music regardless of genre and is very > much rooted in Detroit with an all vinyl blend of techno, deep house > and disco. > > And of course residents Guy lafleur & Todd Weston will be kicking > things off right. > > NO COVER | $3 DRAFTS | 21+
RE: (313) 6 Months
LOL! Never noticed before, but that's my mom dancing at about 3:04 in the clip. She was dancing all night. Pretty good for a *ahem* older gal! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:24 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 6 Months who are the two guys getting interviewed on the porch? scotto lansing, mi. > 6 Months removed from DEMF, this video from Kid Goesting brought back some > fond memories: > > http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/smil/video/startvideo.sram? > 2534202+2584688+2584508+6802477+7536654 > > If that didn't work for some reason, try this one: > > http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml? > 2534202+2584688+2584508+7538566 > > Tristan > = > Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com > Music: http://www.mp313.com > Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for > a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com > >
RE: (313) How to make a techno track.
Come on Pete, if you're going to post that one you have to post the Kikkoman: http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf Not techno related, but it does a cheesy MIDI soundtrack. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:09 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: (313) How to make a techno track. http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail45.html --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs & Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
RE: (313) OT: 4th amendment rights
You lose 4th amendment right every time you get pulled over by a cop here ;) Bur seriously, it's always easy crossing over to Canada..it's coming that they hassle you. I find that a passport is the best solution. Southern California has had to deal with the problem of random checkpoints for years, and they're pretty efficient at conducting the stops. They usually don't stop every car. If they're looking for terrorists in those 2 areas, they're going to get bored quick. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT: 4th amendment rights I just thought I'd send this off to the list, in case people weren't aware of this: If you live in Detroit you technically have no 4th amendment rights under federal law, as the city resides within 25 miles of the US/Canada border. In the past week checkpoints with random searches were set up near Port Huron and Treton. Currently there are no plans to install them in Detroit, but who knows about the future, with "homeland security," being such a pressing concern. May be somthing to consider if you cross the border for parties. --
(313) Anything happening tonight?
Does anyone know of any good techno events in Detroit tonight? Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net
RE: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly
Funny you should mention it's a converted McDonald's..so is Panacea here in Detroit, but it's nice! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) nightclubs - the good, the bad, the ugly So there is this new club in Mpls I went to check out because Tuesdays are supposed to be techno (remember we have very few that more than just meatmarket sports bars) and at first I thought it could be decent but soon realized all the things that were wrong with it. The good things: It's big and very open The bass hits you when you walk in the door (though they could use more) the layout is interesting (this is both good and bad) there is a second floor that overlooks the dancefloor decent dancefloor light system nice big windows up front central downtown location - on busline and right next to new light rail system being built - more parking available than any other club in the city $5 to get in The bad: First of all - it's a converted McDonald's restaurant (I swear I went home with the smell of cigarettes and french fries in my clothes). They've left the original stone tile floor for the entire place - including the dance floor. No defined dance space - meaning you walk right into this big open space as soon as you walk into the building. Very cold atmosphere - all the stone tile on walls and floor. Brass rails. green plants. way too bright - you can see people all the way across the room - no dark corners only one place to lounge - in a corner upstairs and only enough for 2, maybe 3 people 2 pool tables with those billiard room lamps (green shades and more brass) the ugly: the Dj booth was under the stairs around the corner from the dancefloor - impossible to monitor what is going on trance and progressive house and no techno - one decent house tune the entire night I'm curious about places that make it to your personal list of good or bad clubs - not the music so much but the actual physical space what is it about the club?
(313) Additional Ultradyne Dates
We will also be at the following: Saturday Dec. 7th Antwerp, Belgium Het Slachthuis (Slaughterhouse) Wednesday Dec. 11th Paris, France Radio Nova Thursday Dec. 12th Paris, France Rex Club Peace, Alex -Original Message- From: marsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) pre-announcement black label & delsin records present performances ultradyne (live) deepart (bits and bobs) dj's aroy dee foreign kidgoesting peel seamus friday dec 6th 10pm -4am zuid.as amsterdam .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
RE: [313] sunday night in windsor
Isn't this happening on the 21st? At least that's what I was told by the promoters...has it been changed? Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: [313] sunday night in windsor For those interested, I'm playing the Press Club in Windsor on Sunday with a few other people, among them list member Tangible... I don't really have much info, but if there's anything you'd like to know just hit me up and I'll try to find it out for you... Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Juan Atkins Birthday Party Part 1
So how was it? Unfortunately I had to work last night and tonight as well... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fwd: A great tragedy and loss.........
This is not a rumor. My partner and I spoke to his wife today because we thought the same thing at first. This is definitely true. This is a great loss indeed. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: newgun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:37 PM To: Donna Gardner Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Fwd: A great tragedy and loss. i hope to god this is just a really really bad rumor Donna Gardner wrote: > >> Subject: A great tragedy and loss. >> >> I was just informed today that one of my UR brothers is not with us >> anymore. James "Drexciya" Stinson died last night of heart >> complication.. It is a >> big loss for his friends, fans, and family. He will be greatly missed. >> One of the true brothers of the Underground. >> >>mike clark > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Where's Waldo..ooops Otto? OT
Just saw Otto at Submerge this afternoon..that's one TT that gets around!!! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] anything in NY this weekend? < Starts at 7:30pm >
Just as an FYI: We're not doing this event. Also, the addition of the groups Dopplereffekt & Drexciya on the flyer was supposed to be corrected by being removed from the flyer. No association should be inferred by faulty flyer misinformation, etc. etc. etc. Thanks... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: dj nikadeemas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] anything in NY this weekend? < Starts at 7:30pm > http://thingstocome.com/flyers/cbgbttc02.html -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Get 4 DVDs for $.49 cents! plus shipping & processing. Click to join. http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-3566-59 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF mini video collage...
from our friends in Holland... http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+ 7538566 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] trying again. hehe
Ditto! Very nice indeed. Definitely cruising in your car type stuff or chilling at home or at the club. Downtempo done with style. Kudos! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: LR2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] trying again. hehe Classic indeed! You've created a very pleasant track with soothing development featuring very nice chords and progression ala early Carl Craig. It's the sort of track that you imagine you've heard "back in the day" and it's imbibed with a sense of warm sentimentality. Nicely played. Leslie Rollins -Original Message- From: henrique casanova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] trying again. hehe hi guys, i just put a track on line in my friends site. the url is http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/djelieser/audio/redemption_song.mp3 its old school detroit techno. no sofistication, just the classic gears. let me know what u think ok? i would like to hear any kind of coments. take care u all, henrique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] LONDON ELECTROWERKZ - THURSDAY 6TH JUNE
Did anyone on the list go to this last night? Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Drexciya
If any of the UK posse is going to this, please let us know who, how or what the Drexiyen DJ is/does... Peace, Alex **JUST ANNOUNCED*** - LONDON ELECTROWERKZ - THURSDAY 6TH JUNE > with: > CASSETTEBOY > DREXCIYEN DJ STINGRAY > JAMIE LIDELL > LFO DJ > PLAID > RICHARD DEVINE > RUSSELL HASWELL > WARP DJS > WARP FILMS ROOM > ADVANCE TICKETS £12.50 > AVAILABLE FROM WWW.STARGREEN.COM, ROUGH TRADE:0207 240 0105 SMALLFISH:0207 > 739 2252 > > > AVAILABLE ON TOUR ONLY - 'MAGIC BUS TRACKS' - an exclusive CD featuring > unreleased material from LUKE VIBERT, PLAID, RICHARD DEVINE, RUSSELL > HASWELL, CHRIS CLARK, ASTROBOTNIA and others Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR Cabaret
Oh I saw you..;)...wish I would have brought a camera that night. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Cyborg K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UR Cabaret I'm lucky I didn't get a DUI after that, my friend who was supposed to drive took off, and after a 40 of Icehouse, some tequila, and more beer... Well I hope nobody saw me, I was dancing with some BiiiG booty... LOL... Really though it was a good time. Peace/dave Paul Virilio: "Resistance is always possible! But we must engage in resistance first of all by developing the idea of a technological culture. However, at the present time, this idea is grossly underdeveloped. For example, we have developed an artistic and a literary culture. Nevertheless, the ideals of technological culture remain underdeveloped and therefore outside of popular culture and the practical ideals of democracy. This is also why society as a whole has no control over technological developments. And this is one of the gravest threats to democracy in the near future. " _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Eyes Only: DETROIT --- Tonight...
Fulcrum Innovations presents: Eyes Only: Detroit 5.26.2K2 Ultradyne - Warp, Pi Gao Movement - Live Tek Brothers - Submerge - Live Tangible - Pi Gao Movement - Live Archetype - Black Nation, Theory, 2122 Corporation - Live AudioMatriX - USR - Live DJ Clandestine - Underground Resistance - DJ Kid Goesting - BlackLabel, _xerox) - DJ Koert Notario and Electronome - Courthouse Intl. Audio, Nu-Vorm - DJ Tag Team Mark S. Krüx - NYC - DJ Mike Ransom - Layout, 309 - DJ Liberal Arts Gallery - 3361 Gratiot (one block north of Mack) Detroit, MI 18+ with I.D. Surveillance by A.R.M. --- No drugs!!! $15 Advance (www.ticketweb.com) / $20 @door Brought to you by: Fulcrum Innovations (Detroit) Undercity Distribution (Amsterdam) Courthouse International Audio (Amsterdam) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR Cabaret
2 words: well damn!!! The technotourists represented --- KJ and Otto + Marie --- nice to see you guys!!! It was an experience... that is all. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/ UR at DEMF
It just means a dance party...or a party where dancing is the main focus. So UR doing a cabaret should not be surreal but great. It will give the out of towners and others a chance to see a different part of Detroit as well which is a good thing. Cabaret, as I'm sure any 212 313er will tell you, is an evil word in NYC. The lack of a cabaret license was used by the Giulani administration to shut down bars if the patrons were found dancing in the establishment. These licenses were more difficult to acquire than liquor licenses. Crazy.. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: james bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:52 AM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/ UR at DEMF i take it they mean a strip club. james www.jbucknell.com > From: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:42:02 +0100 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] now Caberet + Detroit/ UR at DEMF > > Apols if this is FAQ type of questionive seen a few referances to detroit > techno/electro and caberet... I think someone once wrote/said'to truly > understand bootie, you have to understand the Detroit caberet scene' but I > have never understood the link > > .just to clarify my understanding...in the UK a caberet act would be old > crooners in tuxes and ladies dressed in glittery custumes doing song and > dance...all glitz and glamour...sort of thing youd find on a world cruise...uk > ppl...Jane Macdonald anyone ? arf !! > > I mean UR at a caberet (as i undersatnd it) seems surreal...Hope I dont > sound like a crazy foo'.. > > So the question iswhats a caberet in Detroit ?? > > Rav > >> -Original Message- >> From: keleigh casper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:36 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >> 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [313] UR at DEMF >> >> there are two UR events. a cabaret friday night and FOR THOSE WHO KNOW II >> saturday night--with the location for the sat event being announced friday >> at the cabaret. >> >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Eyes Only: Detroit Date and Lineup Modifications
Fulcrum Innovations presents: Eyes Only: Detroit ***5.26.2K2*** Ultradyne - Warp, Pi Gao Movement - Live Tek Brothers - Submerge - Live Tangible - Pi Gao Movement - Live ***Archetype - Black Nation - Live*** ***AudioMatriX - USR - Live*** Kid Goesting - BlackLabel, _xerox) - DJ Koert Notario and Electronome - Courthouse Intl. Audio, Nu-Vorm - DJ Tag Team Mark S. Krüx - NYC - DJ Mike Ransom - Layout, 309 - DJ Liberal Arts Gallery - 3361 Gratiot (one block north of Mack) Detroit, MI 18+ with I.D. Surveillance by A.R.M. --- No drugs!!! $15 Advance (www.ticketweb.com) / $20 @door Brought to you by: Fulcrum Innovations (Detroit) Undercity Distribution (Amsterdam) Courthouse International Audio (Amsterdam) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
Um, that's "collard greens"...;) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Southern Outpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Mama's Kitchen Soul food... Can't remember where it was, but hell the ribs looked amazing, the deep fried chicken was excellent and got schooled in collard beans n corn bread. Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 3:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Todd Sines Info (OT)
Anyone have a number for him in TO? Need to get a hold him ASAP. Thanks all... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Paging Cornelius
Anyone have contact info for him? Thanks... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Eyes Only: Detroit
Fulcrum Innovations presents: Eyes Only: Detroit 5.25.2K2 Ultradyne - Warp, Pi Gao Movement - Live Tek Brothers - Submerge - Live Tangible - Pi Gao Movement - Live Kid Goesting - Amsterdam - DJ Koert Notario and Electronome - Courthouse Intl. Audio, Nu-Vorm - DJ Tag Team Mark S. Krüx - New York City - DJ Mike Ransom - Layout, 309 - DJ Liberal Arts Gallery - 3361 Gratiot Detroit, MI 18+ with I.D. Surveillance by A.R.M. --- No drugs!!! $15 Advance (www.ticketweb.com) / $20 @door Brought to you by: Fulcrum Innovations Undercity Distribution (Amsterdam) Courthouse International Audio Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
aaah, well, at least they tried. Can't complain about that then... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up sorry if there's a double post ... didn't see my reply come through. >> it is my understanding that they tried to get both Aphex and Kraftwerk. -d At 1:39 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: >Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no >Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. > >Peace, >Alex >www.fulcruminn.net > > >-Original Message- >From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > > >the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live >stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to >keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better >at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as >much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice >atmosphere and mood, to me.. >oh well..still pumped! >jt > >_ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. oh well..still pumped! jt _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
This just in: The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for defamation as well.I wish this was a joke Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM To: Dennis Donohue; 313 Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities >> ['superfreak' is licensed) Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? Laters, m*hopelessly-hoping* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Interesting...you're not actually going to give him the info..? Maybe he needs a pen pal;) He sure found out quick you posted it there...is there a rat among us :( ? Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Dennis Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:19 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities Hi all, Received a mail from Matt Brookman (the General Manager at Ovum records - label to which the Josh Wink song ['superfreak' is licensed) - and he stated that he wanted my phone and mailing address, as I "posted" the song on the web. Is there any legal implications that I should be aware of? Also - I took the song down. Cheers, Dennis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] HELP WDTR STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM
Oh, I listened to the show, I know it was just a technical difficulty...I was just trying to be unsuccessfully funny... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: SOS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:15 PM To: Alexandres Lugo Subject: RE: [313] HELP WDTR STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM Yes it was a taped show , but Pleas estill show your support. s.o.s At 07:40 PM 4/5/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Looks like they threw in a DAT (Dear Air Techno)...;) > > >-Original Message- >From: SOS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:42 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313] HELP WDTR STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM > > >ATTENTION ALL : 313 > >MAGIC MIKE YOUNG NEEDS OUR SUPPORT ON HIS RADIO SHOW >STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM > >AIRS AT 7:00PM TO 8:30 FRIDAYS ONLY WDTR 90.9 FM > >NOW THATS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TIME FOR DETROIT TECHNO! > >We WILL STAY ON THIS SUBJECT UNTILL HE GETS THE SUPPORT HE NEEDS FOR >PLAYING DETROIT TECHNO >AND WE AT S.O.S KNOW YOU WILL COME THROUGH > >VOICE YOUR CONCERNS TO WDTR DON WALKER AT (313) 596-3507 OR PLEASE BLOW UP >THE FAX MACHINE (313) 596-3517 > >Their are rumblings of Program Change.Detroit the Drama goes >on..AND on > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] HELP WDTR STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM
Looks like they threw in a DAT (Dear Air Techno)...;) -Original Message- From: SOS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] HELP WDTR STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM ATTENTION ALL : 313 MAGIC MIKE YOUNG NEEDS OUR SUPPORT ON HIS RADIO SHOW STICK IT IN YOUR EAR PROGRAM AIRS AT 7:00PM TO 8:30 FRIDAYS ONLY WDTR 90.9 FM NOW THATS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TIME FOR DETROIT TECHNO! We WILL STAY ON THIS SUBJECT UNTILL HE GETS THE SUPPORT HE NEEDS FOR PLAYING DETROIT TECHNO AND WE AT S.O.S KNOW YOU WILL COME THROUGH VOICE YOUR CONCERNS TO WDTR DON WALKER AT (313) 596-3507 OR PLEASE BLOW UP THE FAX MACHINE (313) 596-3517 Their are rumblings of Program Change.Detroit the Drama goes on..AND on - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] model 600
I heard some of this last night at Porter. As soon as it started you get that "No UFO's" feel with less bassline attack. Don't know which track I heard, but I would definitely buy the 12". BTW, Atkins will be having a release party for this 12 at Porter Street. (I believe the last Thursday of this month...) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:43 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] model 600 on the submerge website a new 12 from the above is listedanyone heard this/ got any details? cheers robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] New Ultradyne Release
Hi Ryan, PGM003 is actually a release from an artist on called Tangible (Dr. Robot on 313). It will be out shortly. Test pressings are complete and I'm waiting to hear back from some distributors. You can hear some audio snippets at the site below under Images/Audio. PGM004 will be coming in 2 months and will include some Ultradyne, Dopplereffekt, and "others". Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Pryor, Ryan N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:27 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] New Ultradyne Release A new Ultradyne release was due out in January on Pi Gao Movement (PGM 003) Does anyone know if this was released or not? I know Ultradyne releases can be hard to come by, but where can I find it? ``Ryan`` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 004 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 313 Party @ DEMF
I'm sure they'd be down to do this again. Amsterdam came close to going out of business early last month but has revived. They have also started a night called Orange (last Saturday every month, I think) for which they are looking for musicians to do. I don't think anyone is being paid yet, but that may be changing. For more details you can contact Tracy at Amsterdam. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: dj revolver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] 313 Party @ DEMF we had a pre-demf party in windsor for 313ers and mp313ers last year at amsterdam and everyone had a great time. i can look into this venue again this this. let me know what everyone thinks and i'll see if the venue is available. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] 313 Party @ DEMF >Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:53:40 EST > >who's setting this party up ? > >please contact me privately > >Thanks ! > >Nelson Fernandez > HREF="www.signalcommunications.net/miamimeetsdetroit.htm">miamimeetsdetroit > http://thor.prohosting.com/~djnova2";>DJ Nova, Miami Beach dj revolver www.mp3.com/djrevolver www.enjoyproductions.8k.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
I'm sure everyone feels your pain Giles. As it seems that there only about 5-10 people "debating" this issue it would be nice if they argued with each other privately. All of us are aware that this is distribution list, but is there really a need for us to be spectators to this verbal "accident" of differing opinions? I am not trying to police anything here but it truly seems that only a few people are going back and forth at each other at this point. Whatever good intentions were meant by your differing views have now been lost. What I am truly baffled by is why continue to copy the list? I have an email client in which you have to purposefully hit CC. Just curious? Do you guys feel you are enlightening us at this point? Please reply privately, if you can. I would truly appreciate it. Peace to All, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:07 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Jayson B. Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business Why not take this stuff off the list, do I need to read this? That's a rhetorical question. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Jayson B. > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2002 1:05 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business > > > >Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how >those > >offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff >Laura Gavoor > >said. Still have yet to get a cogent non-insulting, non inflammatory > >response that actually answers that question. > > > Hi ken! i'm so very glad for your response, and i can't wait to provide you > with a non-insulting positive response of my own! > > It depends on ms gavoor's full opinion of discrimination. if she feels > strongly about people getting discriminated against, then it DOES invalidate > her response. In that context, having her say ,'discrimination sucks,' and > then turning around and saying the word 'faggot,' is 100% contradictory. it > causes the reader to believe that she does not believe in her own views. > > Or if she feels that only black people are discriminated against, or that > black people are the only ones worthy of a sympathetic shoulder when it > comes to discrimination, then i'll shut up. > > but i still find the word faggot offensive. > > > Hope to hear from you soon ken, and have a great day! > > _ > Join the world> '> s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
So is this list unfortunately;) "i'm quite certain this poll is simply open to anyone who wishes to vote." obviously there are flaws, but what otehr gauge could you possibly use to judge what djs have the highest profile 'overall' On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, keleigh casper wrote: > You'd think a 'journalist' would understand the bias associated with such a > poll. Feel free to continue picking and choosing such ethics and standards > as they suit your argument. > > That top-ten list could be renamed 'Biggest ads in Mixer' or similar. Again, > if these Web-access priviledged, magazine-subscribing, MONEY-having > consumers had access to other, WOULD THEY CHOOSE IT? > > And more importantly, how many of these ad-driven publications have even > attempted to teach these new 'uunch uunch' music consumers that there is > life after (and more importantly BEFORE) said blow-up djs with their faces > plastered all over their mixes, etc (remember when you didnt know what a > dj/producer looked like?). As mentioned before, the consumer holds the > buying power-->so why WOULD the Mixer Incs. of the world try to educate them > about the indies, the unknows, the innovators that don't plaster their faces > all over their mixes, don't live on Marketing Blvd.(relative i know) or more > importantly, steer them toward musicians who LET THE MUSIC SPEAK FOR ITSELF? > God forbid... > > neener neener neener > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:19:06 -0500 > > > >ever heard of, "thedjlist can suck it?" > > > >paul van oakenfag and sasha van digaho before hawtin? BAD BOY BILLLIEE > >"in the mix.. live.. understand?" > >PLUHHHLLLEEEAASSSEEE. > > > >gag me with a fucking 20inch penis. > > > >1 TIESTO 8080 > >2 PAUL VAN DYK 6845 > >3 PAUL OAKENFOLD 5338 > >4 GEORGE ACOSTA 4607 > >5 SASHA 4181 > >6 JOHN DIGWEED 4036 > >7 BAD BOY BILL 2787 > >8 CARL COX 2767 > >9 MAURO PICOTTO 2735 > >10 IRENE > > > >- Original Message - > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:59 PM > >Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > > > > > >is everyone here familiar with thedjlist.com? > > > >its a website where anyone can go and vote for their favorite dj, any dj. > > > >cox is # 8 > > > >hawtin is #36 > > > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] black water with vocals?& Sexy Adventures of orietta St .cloud
Would you say it was more of a graphic novel (e.g. Heavy Metal Magazine) or just a comic? Just curious Given Alan's age, I would expect a more "mature" style comic but I could be mistaken...anyone have any reviews of the comic itself? Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Ja'Maul Redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:26 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] black water with vocals?& Sexy Adventures of orietta St .cloud WELL, since i haven't read a comic book since I was 12 I didn't make a comment on it. It wasn't entertaining to me at all. But I don't know if I can give it a fair accessment. I bought everything for the music. -Original Message- From: Pryor, Ryan N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:23 PM To: 'Ja'Maul Redmond' Subject: RE: [313] black water with vocals?& Sexy Adventures of orietta St .cloud I think you are forgetting you paid $14 for a comic book and received a free CD. Thats how I look at it. Is the comic "good stuff"? ~Ryan~ -Original Message- From: Ja'Maul Redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] black water with vocals?& Sexy Adventures of orietta St .cloud I'm not a big fan of the vocal black water track. It doesn't sound like the vocals were written with the track. It sounds like an add on instead of a completely new mix. Also,, I must say that i'm disappointed with the soundtrack to the comic book. with a few exceptions the c.d. sounds like outakes instead of fresh material. The Marco Passarani track is the obvious stand-out. And Although,,, mills, walker,and the advent add some good tracks,, All together they don't make a good "soundtrack". -Original Message- From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:52 PM To: Brian 'balistic' Prince; Neil Wallace Cc: 313 Subject: Re: [313] black water with vocals? Duff vocal?? Frankly I quite like it and have played it out quite a bit What is the general consensus on this though? I am intrigued... Cheers, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR at Porter Street
I left at 2 as well. They don't go past 2 as far as I know...they might have last night but my drunk ass had to go...;0 Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UR at Porter Street Right on... That UR show was great last night! The talent/entertainment, intense energy in that room was insane! I loved it... the 2 live pa's were awesome, I especially enjoyed Khaos. Crazzzy... those V drums did it for me. I stayed til 2, how much longer did Clandestine play for? His set was going great as well. I will definately be there for Octave One next week. We were deep under. >>> "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/22/02 03:02 AM >>> This was by far one of the best shows I've seen in Detroit in a long time... Shame on anyone living in Detroit for not seeing this. Porter Street has it going on ...recognize... Even Mad Mike and Pennington was having a good time! Eric was there as well (DJ Bone) I know a lot of people on this list are not in Detroit but those that are have no excuse...let's do this...! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Buzz Goree
He played last night at Porter Street...just records though... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:46 AM To: 313 Subject: [313] Buzz Goree Buzz Goree aka Clandestine is playing Tresor at the end of March. Anyone seen him play live before? Cheers toby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR at Porter Street
This was by far one of the best shows I've seen in Detroit in a long time... Shame on anyone living in Detroit for not seeing this. Porter Street has it going on ...recognize... Even Mad Mike and Pennington was having a good time! Eric was there as well (DJ Bone) I know a lot of people on this list are not in Detroit but those that are have no excuse...let's do this...! Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Exit Wounds
Info on www.imdb.com: Filming Locations for Exit Wounds (2001) Calgary, Alberta, Canada (Bridge Scene) Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (Detroit motorcycle chase) Toronto, Ontario, Canada For movies that really had Detroit (in some part) in them: Titles with locations including Detroit, Michigan, USA "EZ Streets" (1996) TV Series "Jack Van Impe" (1994) TV Series "Raw Is War" (1997) TV Series ...aka "WWF Raw Is War" (1997) (USA) ...aka "WWF Raw" (2001) (USA: new title) ...aka "WWF Warzone" (1997) (USA: second part title) 61* (2001) (TV) 8.0/10 (1178 votes) ...aka 61 (2001) (TV) (USA) ...aka Home Run Race (2001) (TV) (USA) 7 Mystery Years (2001) 8 Mile (2002) After April (2001) Alice Cooper: The Nightmare Returns (1986) (V) 9.2/10 (16 votes) ...aka Nightmare Returns, The (1986) (V) (USA: TV title) APBL 2000 - Apoptygma Berzerk Live 2000 (2001) (V) Baby Lund and Her Pets (1899/I) Baby Lund and Her Pets (1899/II) Barrel Fight (1899) Baseball Girls (1996) 5.1/10 (9 votes) Betsy, The (1978) 4.5/10 (179 votes) ...aka Harold Robbins' The Betsy (1978) Beverly Hills Cop (1984) 7.0/10 (7881 votes) Beverly Hills Cop III (1994) 4.6/10 (2523 votes) Biker Zombies (2001) Bird on a Wire (1990) 5.2/10 (2452 votes) Black Butt Sisters Do Detroit, The (1995) (V) Blue Collar (1978) 7.5/10 (326 votes) Cadet Calvary Charge, A (1900) Calling on Michigan (1948) Chameleon Street (1991) 7.0/10 (47 votes) Collision Course (1989) 3.9/10 (83 votes) Crimewave (1985/I) 5.2/10 (324 votes) ...aka Broken Hearts and Noses (1985) ...aka XYZ Murders, The (1985) Crossing the Bridge (1992) 5.3/10 (115 votes) Detroit 9000 (1973) 5.5/10 (71 votes) ...aka Call Detroit 9000 (1973) (UK) ...aka Detroit Heat (1998) (USA: video title) Detroit Fire Department (1899) Dewey Land Parade, Detroit (1900/I) Dewey Land Parade, Detroit (1900/II) Dewey Land Parade, Detroit (1900/III) Driven (2001) 5.0/10 (2477 votes) Elevator, The (2001) (TV) Evil Dead II (1987) 7.5/10 (7080 votes) ...aka Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn (1987) ...aka Evil Dead II, the Sequel to the Ultimate Experience in Grueling Terror (1987) (closing credits title) Evil Dead, The (1982) 7.2/10 (5727 votes) ...aka Book of the Dead (1981) (USA: première title) ...aka Evil Dead, the Ultimate Experience in Grueling Horror, The (1982) (closing credits title) Female Prisoners: Detroit House of Correction (1899) Final Offer (1985) (TV) 9.2/10 (5 votes) ...aka Dernière offre, La (1985) (TV) (Canada: French title) ...aka Final Offer: Bob White and the Canadian Auto Workers Fight for Independence (1985) (TV) (Canada: English title: complete title) Fire Drill at the Factory of Parke, Davis & Co. (1899) Flesh Gordon Meets the Cosmic Cheerleaders (1989) 3.7/10 (113 votes) ...aka Flesh Gordon 2 (1989) Flyers of the Great Lakes (1900) G.A.R. Post, Detroit (1899) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) 7.4/10 (12038 votes) Hardball (2001) 6.1/10 (568 votes) Harris Training Tower (1900) Hoffa (1992) 6.1/10 (1179 votes) Incorporated, The (1997) 7.8/10 (20 votes) Judicial Consent (1994) 5.5/10 (57 votes) ...aka My Love, Your Honor (1994) Last Word, The (1994) 4.5/10 (57 votes) ...aka Cosa Nostra: The Last Word (1994) Legion of the Night (1995) 5.4/10 (16 votes) ...aka Dead City (1999) (UK: DVD title) Let the Good Times Roll (1973) 7.4/10 (24 votes) Madonna Live: The Virgin Tour (1985) (V) 6.3/10 (42 votes) Madonna: Truth or Dare (1991) 5.6/10 (1554 votes) ...aka In Bed with Madonna (1991) (UK) ...aka Truth or Dare (1991) Male Prisoners Marching to Dinner (1899) Michigan Naval Reserves and the Detroit Light Guards (1899) Midnight Hour, The (2000) 2.3/10 (12 votes) ...aka In the Midnight Hour (2000) (USA) ...aka Tell Me No Lies (2000) (USA) Mosquito (1995) 3.4/10 (126 votes) ...aka Blood Fever (1995) ...aka Nightswarm (1995) Mysterious Mr. Browning, The (1918) Nobody Knows (2000) Northville Cemetery Massacre (1976) 6.5/10 (11 votes) ...aka Northfield Cemetery Massacre (1976) Orchard Lake Cadets (1900) Out of Sight (1998) 7.5/10 (10535 votes) Outsider, The (1979) 8.1/10 (18 votes) Parke Davis' Employees (1899) Police Drill (1899) Polish Wedding (1998) 5.4/10 (471 votes) Presumed Innocent (1990) 6.9/10 (3066 votes) Reaching for the Sun (1941) Renaissance Man (1994) 5.7/10 (1387 votes) ...aka Army Intelligence (1994) ...aka By the Book (1994) Road to God Knows Where, The (1990) 8.9/10 (12 votes) RoboCop (1987) 6.9/10 (7725 votes) Roger & Me (1989) 7.7/10 (2850 votes) Rosary Murders, The (1987) 5.6/10 (88 votes) Scarecrow (1973) 6.7/10 (370 votes) Steamship 'Northland' (1899) Stryker's War (1985) 6.3/10 (72 votes) ...aka Thou Shalt Not Kill... Except (1987) (USA: video title) Survivor Series (1999) (V) 7.1/10 (13 votes) ...aka WWF Survivor Series (1999) (V) (USA: promotional title) Synthetic Pleasures (1995) 5.5/10 (31 votes) Tainted (1998) 5.2/10 (15 votes) Taken for a Ride (1996) 9.7/10 (7 votes) Tiger Town (1983) (TV) 6.1/10 (34 votes) Til Vesterheimen (1939) Torque (2002) (V) True Romance (1993) 7.5/10 (11855
RE: [313] Black techno artists]
Thank you for an excellent post. A lot of people would like to gloss over the fact that racism still exists in America and yes, in the Detroit area. They would like to pretend it's all done and over with and has not had an effect on the creation of this music and that it does not matter what skin color is behind the music. I would like to think that most people on this list are above this BS of skin color, and that is what they are trying to express by saying "why does it matter?" The first poster was not trying to bring up a racist topic AT ALL! It's pretty sad that as soon as someone asks any questions on this list that include the words "black artists" you have all these people jumping on him and saying "it's not about that!!". It's not? Maybe not to you but to some people it may be. The same thing goes for the misquote of Juan Atkins the other day and the poster losing respect for him. That is the problem with the world today. Someone has a different view of things and because they do not agree with your world view you have "no respect" for him any more. Sad. Techno has been bastardized enough by drugs, raves, etc. and is now for the most part considered to the outside world that doesn't know any better as white music. Hence the frustration that Eddie was speaking of techno being ignored by black audiences. Granted, a lot of that is caused by the popularity of this thing they call rap and hip hop nowadays...pop music. All this to say: if someone on this is asking about black influences/artists, don't assume they are trying to start a thread about racism... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net "Either they don't show, don't know, or don't give a fuck about the ghetto." Ice Cube -Or From: Cyborg K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists] JAMES PENNINGTON: "The outer space stuff has always been a fascination because life on earth has always been so hard for us being black. Maybe outer space has no rules. No one has gravity in space." >from an interview posted on www.undergroundcommittee.com Let me preface this post be saying that I haven't posted on this list in a long time, but I feel that this topic is too important to ignore. It is impossible to analyze or understand cultural products without looking at their social context; now some of you may not want to understand, would prefer to be entertained without understanding, but I'm going to assume that if it is art then techno has potentials to raise consciousness and on a list dedicated to discussing DETROIT techno we have an obligation to try to understand rather than simply consume and enjoy. First of all, it's impossible to understand any AMERICAN music, much less DETROIT techno, without looking at issues of racial injustice specifically the relationships of whites and blacks. WHY IS THIS? Because the rhythms that are behind all of our popular musics are to a great degree African derived, that's what funk and soul is, it's the memory of these African rhythms passed down from generation to generation by a people who were taken from their homeland. Billy Hart, the great jazz drummer (in the 70's played with Pharoah Sanders and the Herbie Hancock sextet) has lectured about the African derivation of many of these rhythms, and has mentioned the possibility that these rhythms may even have specific characteristics, that they may have physical and spiritual aspects that act upon us when we hear them, an intriguing possibility. The point is, these rhythms were brought over by African slaves, and although the white masters attempted to completely destroy their culture and humanity, these rhythms were preserved and passed down... And then, in the 20th century, we find a new situation--slavery has ended, and again and again African-Americans are innovating and creating brilliant new styles of music, combining the sounds of their and environment and Western European influences with their own funky rhythms that they have preserved through all these years, rhythms rooted in African spiritual culture. But what happens??? Their rhythms are constantly hijacked and glossed over, their innovations are taken from them, their names are erased, and white-washed cultural commodities are produced that the white masses can handle, commodities that no longer preserve the memory of an African spiritual heritage. Blues, jazz, rock/pop, house, techno, it's been happening the whole 20th century and now it looks like it's going to continue right on into the 21st. Meanwhile, in a city like Detroit you have a state of de fact segration, a city full of African-Americans who have been abondoned to live in a wasteland while the suburbs that surround them prosper, a place where white people from the suburbs are AFRAID to visit the city, a city full of black people. Now there are a lot of aspects to the problems w
RE: [313] Ableton Live
This company was started by the guys from Monolake (whole or in part) so out of all the tasty software out there to pirate, I'd consider this an ethically bad choice... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Pryor, Ryan N [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:55 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Ableton Live Ableton Live Program Max download 5 users Don't hammer it if it's full. If you download please reply. ftp://detroit:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:6667/Ableton.zip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The Future of Detroit
Very good essay, Lester. I agree on most points except one: And even though Detroit's suburbs have a vested interest in helping Detroit (as Detroit goes, so goes suburban Detroit), they are too blinded by short-sighted concerns tied to racism to truly engage in the help that the city needs. I don't think that Detroit's suburbs (generalizing here...) are interested in anything but the stadiums and casinos downtown. The main factors are that the majority of jobs are not located in Detroit but in the suburbs so unless you really enjoy hockey, baseball, or gambling there really is no need to go to Detroit (understandable). I'm not saying the avoidance of Detroit is conscious in any way, but if you take away the need to interact with downtown, you ask yourself what's down there that I can't do a couple of miles from home? There are many cities in the U.S. that are thriving without casinos to foot the bill and turn their downtown into a shitty version of Las Vegas. Go a couple of blocks from the Motor City casino and you're in an area most people wouldn't be caught dead walking through. Back in the day when the RenCen was built there were a lot of complaints that it segregated itself with the infamous wall and created a virtual bubble with the rest of downtown Detroit. These casinos have done the same thing. A positive example of rejuvenation was (yes, was) Trapper's Alley in Greektown. Before the renovation, it was literally an alley of cobblestone with some antique shops and a historical landmark. At its peak (84-86), this was the place to hang, shop, eat, buy music on the top floor, they even had a club in there. The point is, it was an attraction for suburbanites as well as locals without alienation of either group. Casinos will never be the answer. They do not provide enough of a service the community, other than taxes, to be a positive addition. As far as Kwame goes, I think that's a good thing. I went to Cass Tech with him and it's really cool to see one of my classmates as mayor, but strange as well. It will be good to see what a fresh young mind will bring to the table. Our last 2 mayors have put the city in the position it is now. It's a shame and a disgrace, it really is. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] The Future of Detroit As some of you know, Detroit recently elected a 31 year old as mayor of Detroit. Although we are not "friends," we are colleagues of a sort...so I went to the Inaugural in order to support his installation. I wrote this essay in response...and though it is tangentially related to the list, I think the kicker at the end is directly related. Take a look...and send to others if you wish. peace lks > Lester Kenyatta Spence 314-935-5814 off > Assistant Professor 314-935-5856 fax > Washington University [EMAIL PROTECTED] > One Brookings Drive > Department of Political Science Box 1063 > St. Louis, MO. 63130-4899 > > I was blessed to be able to attend a couple of inaugural events for Kwame Kilpatrickand I've been trying to think of a way to put my feelings and thoughts on his election into words. A discussion I had last night with St. Louis' first black mayor Freeman Bosley (now a business owner and talk show host) help crystallize many of these thoughts into something that should be relatively coherent. First I'll talk about the events themselves. I got a chance to attend both the Inaugural Ball and the Club Crawland to a certain extent these events represented a stark departure from the previous mayor's events. Not so much in the type of event, but moreso the crowd. To give you a brief examplewhen Dennis Archer St. was first inaugurated, a party geared for the younger crowds was held for him at the State Theater. I attended along with my wife, and though we were glad we went, the first thing that jumped out at us was the crowd. Even though the event was open to the public and advertised as such, the only people there seemed to be related through a number of black upper-class networks. The men and women there either knew each other through Jack and Jill, or through a number of prestigious private and public schools (University of Detroit, Cranbrook, Country Day, Cass Tech, Renaissance), or through a number of prestigious universities (Northwestern, University of Michigan, Harvard Law School). I was lucky enough to almost literally sneak into the University of Michigan, but I got the feeling from that event that if I would have gone to Wayne St. instead, I would not have attendedor if I had attended I would not have known anyone there. As the author of "Our Kind of People" (a journalistic account of the black upper class) notes, it was indeed like the black upper class had finally gotten "thei
[313] SCAN7
Anyone else check out this show? Very good show, in my opinion. The 2 opening DJ's were pretty good as well and they even had some live conga players during the sets. Very nice! The crowd, though small, was very diverse. A refreshing alternative to the Motor crowd. It seemed they went on later than they wanted too or weren't looking at the time (went on about 1:30) because when they went to do their first shout out at 2 the sound was shut down and it was "bye bye folks". Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Drexciya "Harnessed the Storm"
Has anyone seen this in stores (release date is the 25th)? Also, if anyone knows of any online source to listen to track snippets it would be much appreciated. I've already checked Groovetech but they don't have anything yet. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Porter Street
What the haps there tonight...? TIA. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule
Agreed on all points. Like I said, I really didn't think that it was a production problem. Good breakdown on all the major things to look out for. Props. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:12 PM To: Alexandres Lugo Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: > "The technology for making records has not changed since the 50's. Digital > production techniques are making it difficult to maintain fidelity when > transferring to vinyl. People are not making tracks that will sound good on > records anymore." > > I was fortunate enough to hear about a 2 hour discourse (almost a rant ;) > about the subject from our nameless masterer. I think he may have a valid > point. > All you have to do to make it sound good on vinyl is this: 1. No out of phase frequencies below 200hz. Basically, keep your bass mono and panned center. You can check for this if you listen to your track in mono -- if the bass gets phasey or fades in and out, you're doing it wrong. This is the main cause of record skip, as out of phase bass will result in a shallow groove at an extreme of the left to right travel of the needle. 2. Don't overdo high frequences -- above 16khz. While vinyl records can reproduces frequencies in excess of 20khz, if they are too loud relative to other frequencies, they tax the ability of the cutting head to move far enough fast enough. 3. Don't go over 12 1/2 minutes per side for a fixed-pitch lathe, and roughly 14 minutes for a variable pitch lathe. Once you go past those time limits the track pitch gets smaller and you literally cut at half volume. 4. It's helpful to make your tracks mono-compatible, which means to go easy on stereo expansion, stereo flange, etc. Listen to your tracks in mono and make sure they don't sound weird. Vinyl has a lot more channel cross talk than digital audio, and really out of phase material will sound fluttery and hollow due to partial phase cancellation. A lot of producers don't bother to learn these basics which aren't rocket science. The biggest problem is the high-frequency overload, which I think comes from people being half deaf from too many loud nights in the club. I know that Keith and the other people working on the Shari Vari project know how to produce tracks that will sound good on vinyl, so I don't think that they are the problem here. > > My favorite quote in the 2 hours: > > "People like Mike Banks know how to produce a track to sound good on a > record." > Sure. Because Mike Banks is a good producer, period. He makes tracks with an even overall use of the sound spectrum, and he avoids the pitfalls listed above. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule
"The technology for making records has not changed since the 50's. Digital production techniques are making it difficult to maintain fidelity when transferring to vinyl. People are not making tracks that will sound good on records anymore." I was fortunate enough to hear about a 2 hour discourse (almost a rant ;) about the subject from our nameless masterer. I think he may have a valid point. He feels that a lot of digital production techniques (stereo expanding to the point of no return, certain wacky effects, we know what they are, etc.) sound great when listening to it digitally on our computers and CD's. We have to understand that there is much more room to play in the digital domain. Not so in records. Again, these are all his thoughts. I won't go so far as to say that this may have caused the mastering problems, maybe the equipment is antiquated, I don't know. I'm just trying to give perspective from the horse's mouth by proxy. I think he has been pretty frustrated as of late and he did go on and on about a project he was working on that he could not tone down enough to keep the needle from doing its own dance on wax. No idea who he was talking about, I pretty much let him vent :) My favorite quote in the 2 hours: "People like Mike Banks know how to produce a track to sound good on a record." Classic. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule Don't know what you're talking about mate! >-Original Message- >From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: RE: [313] Shari Vari Release Schedule > > > >> That company has a lot of history in the D and a lot of friends ... but >> despite that I doubt they've ever really made a great deal of >money so they >> still more or less master today as they've always done ... It >all comes down >> to (someone) needing to put their money where there mouth is, rather than >> merely waxing lyrical (excuse the pun) about Detroit and it's excellent, >> highly-credible and sincere mastering company (which has >pioneered at least >> one feature on vinyl, which I've never seen anywhere else before) > > >doesn't this spell out who it is? :) > >robin... > > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] NSC
They're still in business. We just just got something cut there a few weeks back...try the number: 734.641.4686 Peace, Alex -Original Message- From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:47 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] NSC Anyone know if NSC is still cutting plates? I've tried going to their website and found it no longer there. If not, who could I go to? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
