Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread ernie hilgers
On Nov 15, 2016, Ed Glassgow wrote: > There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software. In fact, > there was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively early > Mac days. I wish that I could remember what it was called, but time has > wiped that from my memory

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Tom Dillon
David Adams wrote: >For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what, >30 years now I've been using 4D (!) and I *still* have to double-check >Position and Find in array > >Position(Needle;Haystack) >Find in array(Haystack;Needle) Wow! These could be useful. I just don't

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Peter Bozek
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Ed Glassgow wrote: > There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software. In fact, > there was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively early > Mac days. I wish that I could remember what it was called, but

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Bill Weale
Text-based coding would work better for me if the handling or ordering of language elements where consistent across languages. Nouns, verbs, subjects, objects, modifiers, etc. take different positions or ordering in different languages. My native language is English and my only backup is Latin.

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Douglas von Roeder
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Ed Glassgow wrote: > There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software. In fact, > there was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively early > Mac days. I wish that I could remember what it was called, but

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Keith Culotta
Was it 4th Dimension where you could commit to a graphical approach or a text approach, or did Omnis give that choice in the early days? Keith - CDI > On Nov 15, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Ed Glassgow wrote: > > There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software. In

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Ed Glassgow
There have been efforts at pure graphical programming software. In fact, there was a database program that was drag and drop in the relatively early Mac days. I wish that I could remember what it was called, but time has wiped that from my memory banks. It was very cumbersome to accomplish

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Bill Weale
As far as software “developers” are concerned, I may be an extreme example of someone who is bothered by this type of learning. I simply don’t have the patience/attention span/(motivation?) to devote the time and effort to the repetitive (to me, boring to the point of stifling) behaviors

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread John E. Bowen
So, so true. Without further evidence I'm not going to plead guilty to wrapping a single 4D command. But a 'Relate' method with clearly marked parameters for $many_field_p, $one_field_p helps me avoid remembering the syntax for Query with Whoosit, Selection from Whatsit or something like that. I

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Justin Leavens
On November 15, 2016 at 8:14:23 AM, bob.mil...@parker.com (bob.mil...@parker.com) wrote: There has not been a single time  when I've been able to remember which field (relating or related) to use  with Relate One, Relate One Selection, Relate Many, and Relate Many  Selection. Something short

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Ortwin Zillgen
> For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what, > 30 years now I've been using 4D (!) and I *still* have to double-check > Position and Find in array > > Position(Needle;Haystack) > Find in array(Haystack;Needle) > > So, just thinking, be kind to yourself...find a

Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-15 Thread Chip Scheide
Wrap one to look like the other :) On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:26:47 +1100, David Adams wrote: > For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what, > 30 years now I've been using 4D (!) and I *still* have to double-check > Position and Find in array > >

It's the little things (ordering parameters)

2016-11-14 Thread David Adams
For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what, 30 years now I've been using 4D (!) and I *still* have to double-check Position and Find in array Position(Needle;Haystack) Find in array(Haystack;Needle) So, just thinking, be kind to yourself...find a pattern and follow