Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
Many thanks to everyone who replied. The consensus appears to be that 4D can work well as long as the resources (dollars and expertise) are expended to make it work. I'm *all* for that. Based on the feedback here, I think I've can provide my client with a sound basis to make a technological decisio

Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
My thoughts exactly. I had a client that was using VMs for both development and production. All was AOK until they wrote a custom plugin. While testing the plugin on my machine single user all worked great. While testing on virtual. It simply did not work. I spent about 4 weeks trying to fix a p

Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Guy Algot via 4D_Tech
Chills indeed… hope that’s a typo… ;-) > On Feb 27, 2017, at 1:41 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I have death with 3 virtual environments that are running 4D Server > applications Later, Guy -- Guy Algot, Solutions Specialist Edmonton, Alberta (780) 974-8538

Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > The company underwent an unsuccessful virtualization effort a few years ago > (prior to my involvement) when they were using 4D 2004. The IT personnel > involved with that effort are not longer with the company and the current > staff has as

Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Benedict, Tom via 4D_Tech
Hi Doug, >My reason for posting this message is to solicit feedback on the pros and cons >of moving >an existing system to a virtual environment. The IT department at a client >site is pushing >a client to virtualize their 4D system and I've been asked to provide input. >In a short, my understa

RE: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-27 Thread Dennis, Neil P. via 4D_Tech
> I would appreciate your thoughts, insights, and real-world experiences on > this topic. I'm running a v15 server with a VM Windows Server (2008 R2), SAN Disk (not SSD), 64GB memory, Xeon processor. We have concurrent usage over 130 users (and not an optimized application). All users are remot

Re: Virtualization - Yea or Nay

2017-02-26 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
Doug, My gut feeling has always been no but provided the VM is appropriately configured and is running on hardware that is not overtaxed then I think you will be okay. The new feature introduced in 16r2 makes this option increasingly attractive. http://blog.4d.com/enterprise-virtual-machine-snap