Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Hi Hilsen, thanks for your input. So, if you are storing users in user tables, couldn’t that be used to restore a new structure? When you say you are storing lists outside of the DB you lose me. With your strategy, is the structure or the data file the authority? Are you using your own custom

Re: activating default user

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
HI Kirk, thanks for taking the time to weigh-in on this… I’m in need of some clarification, see below: > I include a field in the [Users] table for the database id and database > name. The significance of that value depends on the rules you set up for > yourself. I assume that these are

V15 and SQL

2018-11-14 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
a 4D server (Mac) is receiving new records in a table via SQL. That is fine EXCEPT that ((Trigger event=On Saving New Record Event) | (Trigger event=On Saving Existing Record Event)) never triggers. I need this to happen so other related tables can be updated accordingly. Any suggestions?

Re: activating default user

2018-11-14 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Robert, I include a field in the [Users] table for the database id and database name. The significance of that value depends on the rules you set up for yourself. 1) You could say the 4D structure is the authority in which case if the structure doesn't, or no longer, has that user's db id in it

RE: Can Designer Groups Be Deleted?

2018-11-14 Thread Tai Bui via 4D_Tech
Hi, http://doc.4d.com/4Dv17R2/4D/17-R2.1720/Managing-users-and-groups.300-3839424.en.html Under "Creating and configuring access groups" "Keep in mind that once a group has been created, it cannot be deleted. If you want to deactivate a group, you just need to remove any users it contains."

Can Designer Groups Be Deleted?

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Is there a way to delete Designer groups in 4D? Thanks, Robert ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub:

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Thanks Jim, for the database I’m working on I might be able to get by with a couple of checkboxes that represent groups and not really have a groups table. I’m planning to have all of the database users in a users table and to authenticate against that and to also verify that there is a

Re: activating default user

2018-11-14 Thread Dani Beaubien via 4D_Tech
Sigh, there is a hard limit of 15k admin users in the 4D User system. I am working with systems that have more than that # of users. Going to have to come up with a different approach. Thinking about having a smaller set of 4D User setup that I recycle and link them up to the users in the

Re: activating default user

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Kirk, what was your method of keeping use rand 4d recs in sync? Thanks, R > On Sep 2, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > > You have to explicitly > offer some way to log in as a different 4D user or, as I eventually did, > tie my user records to a 4D user.

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Tim, I just toggled on the checkbox on the server that activates this feature but I’ve not implemented the code just yet…. So, how do you specify that you are logging in with the local 4D password instead of SSO? Modifier keys? Hidden Menu? Also, I’m not sure when the SSO login is in effect.

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2018-11-14 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Supercool Tim! BTW: did you have a way of testing this in your office? Right now I’m thinking that when I’m connected to the client VPN I’d have access to that Windows server for authentication. Thanks, Robert > On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-14 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Yes, you can set up colours for dark mode in the editor. Dark mode doesn’t affect the application windows, though. I expect they too can be faked, but these are things that an application which is configured to run under Mojave should do automatically when the appearance mode is changed. Maybe

Re: What is the "REST" process for?

2018-11-14 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
I'm not seeing what ACI0098723 has to do with this issue. I'm not doing anything here with ORDA. After some further testing I discovered the issue is related to saving records on tables with triggers enabled in a preemptive process. If I disable all the triggers, no REST process shows up. Also

Re: What is the "REST" process for?

2018-11-14 Thread Nils Kollandsrud via 4D_Tech
I've had the same issue with 4D v16R6 after starting preemptive threads and I asked about it on forums.4d.fr without any response. I've now tested with the latest 4D v17R3 build and the issue is still there. -- Nils Kollandsrud