Re: Sharepoint vs 4D...

[bob . miller]

Robert,

Sharepoint is a Microsoft product that provides document storage and 
collaboration using a web-bsed "template".  It integrates closely with MS 
Office, so its strength is document management and storage.  One can 
choose one of many templates, such as a simple library or a sophisticated 
workflow to collect signatures in an approval cycle.  It is almost 
impossible for me to compare with 4D, as there is little commonality; 
while it is possible to create some "logic" in Sharepoint, it is really 
only for workflow.  Also, there is not really a concept of a data element 
in Sharepoint, as the basic unit is a document.  Having said that, you can 
collect document metadata, such as approval levels, revision level, etc., 
but it is not a development environment in the sense of 4D.  You can add 
on to Sharepoint using javascript and you can make a SOAP call, but I've 
never done this.

I think of Sharepoint as a sophisticated file cabinet, while 4D is more 
like a set of legos with a database back end.  Hard to compare things that 
are so completely different.  Unless the 4D database the client is talking 
about is document-centric, there's little you could do in Sharepoint to 
mimic 4D functionality.  But of course that depends on the application.

There's tons of stuff on the web about Sharepoint, start with Wikipedia.

Good luck - sounds like the customer is a little daft and needs some 
guidance --


Bob Miller
Chomerics, a division of Parker Hannifin Corporation



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Re: Sharepoint vs 4D

[David Samson]

Hello Robert,

I found this which appears to be fair comparison.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff647105.aspx

David


> I have client that wants to rewrite an old 4D database from scratch. At
> least one member on the board is pushing for us to consider Sharepoint or
> another non-4D approach. I know very little about SP. I'm told it's like a
> glorified excel spreadsheet Any particular points I should keep in mind
> as I defend 4D?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
>
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D Samson
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Re: Sharepoint vs 4D...

[Balinder Walia]

Robert,

SharePoint is Document Management System which can be linked with MS Office
Apps. It has it's own storage and I think it using SQL. It high
configurable but still SharePoint is not a tool for writing Business
Database Applications on it's own.

Be upfront and tell them that many have tried this kind of approach before
and end up spending a lot companies money and get no where or half way
through. Also it depends on what DB does if it can be redone it SP or not.
First question is find out why they want move to SP? What do they not like
about 4D? Perhaps if you can purpose to solve that problem itself they
might consider it.

If they still want to let them try and waste money and come back to you in
few years time.

Balinder

On 14 October 2016 at 02:19, Robert ListMail  wrote:

> I have client that wants to rewrite an old 4D database from scratch. At
> least one member on the board is pushing for us to consider Sharepoint or
> another non-4D approach. I know very little about SP. I'm told it's like a
> glorified excel spreadsheet Any particular points I should keep in mind
> as I defend 4D?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
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Sharepoint vs 4D...

[Robert ListMail]

I have client that wants to rewrite an old 4D database from scratch. At least 
one member on the board is pushing for us to consider Sharepoint or another 
non-4D approach. I know very little about SP. I'm told it's like a glorified 
excel spreadsheet Any particular points I should keep in mind as I defend 
4D?

Thanks,

Robert 
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