Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech
Ah yes, sorry I skimmed too fast. Add From: Peter Bozek Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 11:10 AM To: iNug <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Add Komoncharoensiri Subject: Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute? On Wed, Feb 5, 2020

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:04 PM Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Just a little modification from Peter's code > > Instead of defining an object attribute in the Variable and Expression, > leave it blank so 4D will generate a dynamic variable for it. In the object >

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech
Just a little modification from Peter's code Instead of defining an object attribute in the Variable and Expression, leave it blank so 4D will generate a dynamic variable for it. In the object method, you just need to execute the following when the On Data Change occurs. Case of : (FORM

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:58 PM Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > So I had to resort to creating a FORMULA OBJECT that gets executed to do > the update of the .storeLoc > > $formula:=Formula from string($storeLoc+":="+Qu ($UUID)) // $storeLoc is > the full ‘path’ of

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread James Crate via 4D_Tech
It’s not so much that the pointer is not needed, but that it isn’t available so we have to figure out other ways to work around that fact when pointers would be more useful and allow you to write less brittle code. Having to specify almost the same text for the name as for the expression, or

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
Hello, Object get pointer(Object current)-> is synonymous to Self, and likewise it will point to nothing if the current object is not bound to a variable. I think this is a strong sign that in object based design, pointers are very rarely needed, if at all, and that this kind of generic code

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-05 Thread Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech
Chris, Is it not just: Object get pointer(Object current)->:=Uppercase(Object get pointer(Object current)->) Regards, Dougie telekinetix Limited- J. Douglas Cryer Phone : 01234 761759 Mobile : 07973 675 218 2nd Floor Broadway House, 4-6

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
if I may interject, the O.P. was asking for generic coding, where the object method does not know its data source expression. but in my opinion (yes it is an opinion, not doctrine) it is better to plan well and hard-code in ORDA, generic coding does not deliver like it does for the classic

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Chris, On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > // The ‘field’ that needed to be updated with the KEY of the selected > option would be something like: // > Form.en_edit.contact // which, say, translates to [Company]contact in > classic 4D > >

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech
Hi Kirk, I appreciate how generous you are with answering questions on this forum. I understand the 1) 2) 3) points you make. I love the fact we can ‘attach’ things to Form. Instead of using process vars. I do not use a single process var in my most recent projects. I had to do a weird

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech
Thank you for your input. Naturally, if the object name gets to be exactly the same as the ‘expression’ that works (IFF the value is stored in Form.[whatever] ) But when the ‘expression’ is an attribute in an entity, as I described, there is no way you can name the object like that. I have

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
I believe this is related to other topic that was discussed here, namely that you cannot get pointer to object properties. So there is no way how to get a pointer pointing to Form.LB.Browser.en_edit.FirstName. As you noticed, you can still manipulate such form objects with commands that accept

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Chris, For a listbox the equivalent of 'self' is the Current Item Datasource. Let's say that is Form.LB.currentItem in keeping with your example. (It could be something else just as well.) This is the object that corresponds to the listbox row generally speaking. So you could have a method that

Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-04 Thread James Crate via 4D_Tech
This was annoying the first time I ran into it, but overall hasn’t really caused any serious problems for generic programming. If you name the object with the expression, you can use something like: Form[Object Get name(Object current)]:=x If you need to set properties on a form object

What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

2020-02-03 Thread Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech
What a weird ’subject’ for this question. Sorry. Seems quite confusing. Say that the “variable or expression” for a on-screen object is Form.LB.Browser.en_edit.FirstName This is entirely reasonable, as 4D’s ORDA has taught us to use such ‘expressions’ for the fields BUT in the script