Re: ​Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

David, Interesting initial post - like marmalade on a flakey croissant, a little sweet and a little bitter. I've hammered a similar nail before: what is 4D's vision of itself? What is the target market? Why does such a fabulous product remain so unknown? Why isn't there better documentation? Let's

Re: ​Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

Hey Kirk, thanks for the thoughtful post. And, just for the record, I'm not a CS guy. I was an English major and have never taken any sort of CS class. But i'm good at learning on my own. On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > David, >

Re: ​Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

I just wanted to post something about my post. In a word: D'oh! I woke up this morning to realize that I'd posted my message to the list, which wasn't what I intended. I meant to post it to a bunch of old-timers I stay in touch with when I need a grumble. I've mis-posted tings on various lists

[blog] new post concerning de- and encoding of IMAP Mailbox names (modified UTF-7)

Hi Folks, in case anyone ever encountered the fun of having to decode funny mailbox names as used in IMAP, here may be something useful for you: http://blog.heintz.net/holy-imap-folder-batman/ Cheers Alex

Re: Packages-building an installer

I believe there are some nice applications that makes the process easier, but you can still use basic command line tools to deploy a built 4D desktop application for macOS. if you want to create an installer package, the steps are: 1. sign the application and move it to /Applications (locally)

Re: 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

John DeSoi writes: >> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:55 PM, John Baughman via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> Pro looks to be a good upgrade, but I hate the fact that it comes without a >> typical word processor user interface built in. I just don't have time

Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

For anyone that's seen me on the forums in recent months, let's just say...what I'm doing isn't working. I keep raising what I think are pretty basic issues and I just end up with a ton of heat back from 4D and not a lot of information. It's exhausting and renews my disgust. It's possible that

Packages-building an installer

Hi I wondered if anyone else has used ‘Packages’ for creating an installer(maybe you can suggest a similar product). I am creating a simple installer for an in-house application-i will rather give the users a link to an installer than a .zip as they have a habit of installing stuff on the

Re: 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

Hi, have a look at HTH Ingo Wolf >Hello, > >I have just started looking at the 4D Write Pro interface. > >Currently I have an "old" (current) 4D Write area embedded into a fairly >complex form (25 tabs, lots of fields and listboxes, etc.). The

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

I was making some related comments on the forums in France today and Rob Laveaux, a hero of the 4D world, made a great technical post: Hi David, Please elaborate what makes you conclude this? You seem to imply that objects fields are stored in JSON format, but I'm sorry ... that is not true.

Re: Packages-building an installer

Assuming you are talking about Apple's PackageMaker, you can use a shell script to set read-write. For the Package there is a Scripts tab with an entry for Postinstall that will run after install. I think you are using this for AppleScript already. You can create a shell script by going to

Re: 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_fFafP-hgs=em-subs_digest > On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Ingo Wolf via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > have a look at >

Re: Interesting(?) Tales of Coding Was : Request for tech note

https://i.redd.it/fjcv9evg6u8z.png now THAT is hard work. I wonder if it was complete... Chip --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ:

Re: Packages-building an installer

On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I wondered if anyone else has used ‘Packages’ for creating an installer(maybe > you can suggest a similar product). I am creating a simple installer for an > in-house application-i will rather give the

Re: Interesting(?) Tales of Coding Was : Request for tech note

I wrote a Get Prime routine in 56 lines of 4D code years ago for fun to generate prime number in array of whatever number users enter as parameter. Alan Chan 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes: >https://i.redd.it/fjcv9evg6u8z.png

Re: Quick report strange behavior

Hi, Quick report when work on windows 7 work fine, when run on windows 8 give this problems. All report are very small this not depend of the font used Thanks /Ferdinando/ Il 11/07/2017 18:12, Chip Scheide ha scritto: No I do not. I have seen posts regarding font size issues and windows

Re: Quick report strange behavior

No I do not. I have seen posts regarding font size issues and windows 7?, 8?, 10? Since I do not use 4D on these systems I do not pay a lot of attention. search the archives on the 4D KB, or gmane, or Nabble sorry, best I can offer Chip On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:50:45 +0200, stardata.info via

Re: 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

As mentioned in Ortwin's link, the Widget and the WPro area are separate. Another alternative would be to put the Widget in a floating window OPEN WINDOW and DIALOG(*). Most parts of the Widget worked when I tested that (I think I had to use the variable name), but there were problems with

Re: Quick report strange behavior

Hi all, No one use 4D V13 on windows 8? Thanks Ferdinando Il 11/07/2017 01:02, stardata.info ha scritto: Hi all, Quick report on 4D V13.3 on windows, work fine until windows 7. From Windows 8 quick report not work properly, like explained below. Someone have a solution? Thanks

4D Not Seeing A Mounted Network Drive

I have a system where I am trying to create a folder or write a file to a mounted network drive. When I try to create a folder or write a file to that drive, 4D comes back with an error. If I try to do it to a physical drive on the computer, it has no problem. Has anyone ran into this problem

Re: 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

http://.mettre.de/wp/the-real-estate-blues/#english Grüße/regards Ortwin Zillgen ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

Re: Quick report strange behavior

Yes, Ferdinando that is the issue - everything is small. search the archives, others have reported (and I think) resolved the issue. On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:29:15 +0200, stardata.info wrote: > Hi, > > Quick report when work on windows 7 work fine, when run on windows 8 > give this problems. >

Re: Quick report strange behavior

We do use v13.6 on Windows 8 and 10 without your problem. Did you try 13.6 instead of 13.3? v11 of 4D does exhibit problem you mentioned. I'm not sure if the problem exists in 13.3 or not. Alan Chan 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes: >Hi all, > >No one use 4D V13 on windows 8? >

Re: Quick report strange behavior

Hi Chip, Can you give me the link to use for search? Many thanks Ferdinando Il 11/07/2017 20:17, Chip Scheide ha scritto: Yes, Ferdinando that is the issue - everything is small. search the archives, others have reported (and I think) resolved the issue. On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:29:15

Re(2): 4D Write Pro interface plug in or component?

Hi Ingo, The sample db generates a range-check error on startup (v16 R3 Windows, US), and other errors after cancelling various menu actions: "improper file name during export", "operation not compatible with the two arguments", "...is an invalid name for a file", "boolean argument expected",

Re: 4D Not Seeing A Mounted Network Drive

what is the error? It may be do to permissions? It may be due to syntax. I create folders all the time on mounted volumes Regards Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc.

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:10 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > * Use a header object that describes the 'columns' and then use compact > JSON arrays for the data. Rob Laveaux reminded me about this option some > months back and it's a really decent compromise. > That

Re: Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

I just wanted to post something about my post. In a word: D'oh! I woke up this morning to realize that I'd posted my message to the NUG, which wasn't what I intended. I meant to post it to a bunch of old-timers I stay in touch with when I need a grumble. I've mis-posted tings on various lists

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

Hello, I think it would not be telling the full story if you just focus on how UTF-16 takes double the size for standard ASCII, and therefore uneconomic. and I am not speaking because UTF-16 actually takes less space than UTF-8 for Japanese text. one must take into account that standard

Re: ​Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

> > From: David Adams > > For anyone that's seen me on the forums in recent months, let's just > say...what I'm doing isn't working. I keep raising what I think are pretty > basic issues and I just end up with a ton of heat back from 4D and not a > lot of information. It's

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

one more thing, it is not incorrect to do something like { "\u0066\u006F\u006F":"\u0062\u0063\u0072" } instead of {"foo":"bar"} it's an extreme example, but it happens all the time in non-ASCII JSON. I may prefer one over the other, but really I don't care, and nor should I care, because it

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

Keisuke, You are *the* man on character encoding stuff in 4D, so thanks for adding your observations. I'm likely to be working with nothing but low ASCII, Latin1 data, for what it's worth. Just simple names for keys and numbers for most values. As far as the planning quesiton goes, I'm just

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

> I think it was unfortunate that "some thing like a hash table" was mentioned, > in passing, when the object feature was explained in detail. Thanks *very* much for the clarification. Of course now, we don't even know that about object field indexes ;-) > it was simply a demo to show how

Re: ​Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

Steve, Wow! Thank you so, so much for your beautiful post. I loved it all, and I think that your assessment is pretty much right on the money on all counts. And, yes, I am a very quick typist ;-) I am also sleeping great these days, but thanks for your concern there. I grew up in an environment I

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

Okay, I'm back and think that I get it now. And, yeah, storage space with 4D object fields is definitely a planning issue. Headline result: Copy and paste a 1MB JSON from a text editor and save it in 4D and it's likely to take about 2MB to store. More below. Corrections welcomed. I've also posted

Re: Object field storage: Questions and alternatives

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:10 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > * Use a header object that describes the 'columns' and then use compact > > JSON arrays for the data. Rob Laveaux