Eris Discordia schrieb:
Been there, done that.
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:00 PM -0400 Pietro Gagliardi
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I have an idea, Eris. Why don't you fuck off and actually USE Plan 9 for
once?
Unspeakable horrors from outer space paralyze the living and
Steve Simon's trademark character, I presume, was generated by
[Alt]+0153--you call [Alt] an Option key, right?
nope, Alt,T,M
Well below 255, it's
just extended/8-bit ASCII. Not right-to-left, not even out of ISO 8859. You
could generate that character even on MS-DOS.
I don't get this,
Did your language training involve being taught the difference between a
work/task and a job/profession?
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:08 PM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
// Others, like me, have some petty work to do. Like knowing which
// character on which line they're editing or
No, that's not the UNIX philosophy. That's the X/Linux/GNU philosophy. Go
read Program Design in the UNIX Environment by Kernighan and Pike to
see what I mean.
Get educated. Don't you even know where X came from?
Just a funny idea: have you noticed that the Kernighan, Pike, Ritchie,
Thomspon
Sorry for feeding the troll, I will shut up.
-Steve
should be Just stay away from Acme if you aren't lucky enough to be
stuck with Plan 9.
Could be. Only _luck_ could make you that miserable; reason does a better
job. Also, you could be a little funnier.
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:11 PM -0700 Skip Tavakkolian
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as i suspected, you're here for therapy.
_Intense_ therapy.
i can see you're bitter.
Not very much. The researching and submitting and hoyvin' mayvin' is
going to be my bane, too. In a different field. Namely, differential
geometry. More specifically, Finsler geometry. To be exact,
Enlighten me, then. Revealing a date of commencement won't comprise a
breach of non-disclosure, would it?
--On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:34 PM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.
style(6) says not to convert tabs to spaces.
I see. People on Plan 9 are told which characters they should or
shouldn't use in their text. Great!
An awk program can do this. The idea is to interpret tags as they come in
the form of a stack:
codestack
html
Wow. Does memorising codepoints fall under your job description aswell?
No. I looked it up in Microsoft Windows' Character Map. Saw it was below
255. Knew UTF-8 corresponds to ASCII in lower character codes (not sure
7-bit or 8-bit). Figured it could as well be 8-bit ASCII.
ifconfig:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Eris Discordia
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Wow. Does memorising codepoints fall under your job description aswell?
No. I looked it up in Microsoft Windows' Character Map. Saw it was below
255. Knew UTF-8 corresponds to ASCII in lower character codes (not sure
Eris can be a real bitch sometimes. For those who haven't picked up on the
root of her name, Eris Discordia, just check out wikipedia and the general
annoyance that are us discordians (and our corresponding goddess, Eris).
The only way to deal with a discordian is to filter it, or ignore it. I'd
What's the Plan 9 way of solving that? Trusting the user at the terminal?
yes, no other things required, you fail (as per usual)
twenty years ago i was asked by a journalist to similarly explain why
i was using UNIX.
i ended up saying UNIX says screw you, i agree. it was one of the
few random comments he didn't print.
no 9fan needs to ask. they just get the job done because they know
that what they are doing is much more
Read the rest of the paragraph you're responding to. Or stop feeding the
troll as the big bosses advised you.
--On Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:12 AM +0100 matt
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What's the Plan 9 way of solving that? Trusting the user at the
terminal?
yes, no other things
Eris wants no sisters, but she has a _big_ bro and he's called Ares.
Help me, bro! Show them some muscles. I showed them intellect, to no avail.
Perhaps the muscles do the job.
--On Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:04 AM -0700 erik discordia
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Eris can be a real bitch
The ascii that is 8 bits is not the true ascii.
I answered that one.
No. Private namespaces.
And how does that solve the problem of whom to trust with mounting? Or with
configuring a network interface? If someone has access to, say, eth0 then
they have access to eth0. No amount of
As will I. This thread has become pointless. I'm done attacking this
guy. If you need me, I'll be making good programs in Plan 9 or
watching stuff in iTunes.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
Sorry for feeding the troll, I will shut up.
-Steve
Code page 1252, ANSI Latin I. Presumably the one most widely used.
--On Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:44 AM +0200 Sander van Dijk
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On 8/20/08, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] Figured it could as well be 8-bit ASCII.
Which one?
One of the central tenets of Plan 9 is that everything is a file. So
all file based activities are really, really easy.
Most OO programming appears to follow a more DB oriented style (at
least those with horrendous packaging/module mechanisms). That files
are used to store your programs appears
On 8/20/08, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ACLs were invented long ago.
yes, I like clean and simple solutions too.
iru
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Wendell xe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My nutshell evaluation of Acme is that it is for systems-level coding in C on
modest-sized projects. It seems very well designed for that purpose but
quickly becomes awkward as you move away. It is definitely not suited to
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM, sqweek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Wendell xe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My nutshell evaluation of Acme is that it is for systems-level coding in
C on modest-sized projects. It seems very well designed for that purpose but
hiro schrieb:
Hi my friends,
I have a question which I'm really concerned about.
Please tell me: can java coding be fun?
I would be very grateful for a serious answer since I'm trying to
decide what to do in the next 20 years or so.
Thank You,
hiro
In prinziple yes! But fun and profit are
You only need a cpu
server if you want to let other machines run processes on your
machine. You only need an auth server if you want to serve resources
to a remote machine.
i don't think this is accurate.
You only need a cpu server if you want to let /multiple users/ run
processes on your
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only thing I'd miss in Acme vs emacs then, most likely, for lisp-like
languages is paren-matching.
And I'd miss it dearly.
Double click on the paren selects the area enclosed by the matching paren.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM, hiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi my friends,
I have a question which I'm really concerned about.
Please tell me: can java coding be fun?
I would be very grateful for a serious answer since I'm trying to
decide what to do in the next 20 years or so.
Thank
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:58 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You only need a cpu
server if you want to let other machines run processes on your
machine. You only need an auth server if you want to serve resources
to a remote machine.
i don't think this is accurate.
You only
The trick you want is in /rc/bin/service/startcifs - this may not be exactly
the code you want but it demonstrates the technique you need.
-Steve
the correct namespace I would guess, you did do the import before you started
cifs?
Hmm... I used consolefs to the /srv/fscons to add srv -A test
then as my user I could do \\myplan9server\test and get the root of the drive.
Looks like a namespace issue after all.
However, might this prevent
I was going to give it a rest. Really. But I couldn't overcome my bad
habits. They outnumber me ten to one ;-)
You're right; it isn't. Is that good or bad? What about in an office
environment? Same answer there?
Plan 9's aptitude for becoming easily distributed--that is, becoming
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