Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Russ Cox
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: Always get p9p from hg, the tarballs have been partially broken for ages and Excuse me? Instead of keeping that to yourself why not tell me so I can fix it? I know many people who install from the tar file, though, so I expect you're

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
I haven't used the tarball in years because I simply find hg more convenient, but a few times when I have recommended somebody to install p9p they have complained about problems unpacking the tarball, I just tell them to do a fresh hg checkout instead, and that usually works for them. Maybe they

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
Perhaps a way to solve this problems and save you work and trouble would be to simply link to: http://code.swtch.com/plan9port/get/tip.gz and let mercurial do the job of building a tarball for the latest repo. uriel On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't used

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-08 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:08 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Story time. :) You're also falling into the trap of believing that because it _can_ happen, it has to happen (Murphy's Law). It punishes the many for the sins of the few and is a very poor foundation for progress. It wasn't a

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Russ Cox
Thanks, but I'm happy with the current tar files. They are a working CVS checkout, so that people who use them can then use the recipes in cvs(1) [9 man cvs] to update their trees. The one you linked to is not a working anything checkout. I haven't touched the tar file generation in over a year so

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

2009-08-08 Thread Bela Valek
- usb/usbd is up and running - the only option in my BIOS is to turn USB off - I am sorry, i dont understand the part about the old and new USB devices and tools. can you explain a bit? Thanks: Béla 2009/8/7 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com: On Fri Aug  7 02:53:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Aug 8 00:47:40 EDT 2009, davide...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: would you expect to have a bad spot in 2,000 fujitsu eagles? If you do, I have a repair manual. i prefer two strong oxen. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:39:00 -0700 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: Thanks, but I'm happy with the current tar files. They are a working CVS checkout, so that people who use them can then use the recipes in cvs(1) [9 man cvs] to update their trees. The one you linked to is not a working

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-08 Thread David Leimbach
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.orgwrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: X11 isn't a desktop, it tries very hard not to define a look and feel, but it has to include inter-app communications to support the supposedly desirable drag

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
the CD includes sources to the kernel on platforms which required NDAs to get the information to do the port. part of the NDA, as i understand it, required the sorts of restrictions on redistribution in the commercial license. people have tried to get at least some bits of that opened up, and at

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 AM, John Florenslawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simonst...@quintile.net wrote: As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition books/cdrom are nolonger available but you

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:45, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder how many of the companies involved still exist :-) i suspect ron knows all this already; this is intended for anyone else who comes along and thinks this might make getting 2e CDs out easier (instead of harder). again,

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah they were hot on CORBA, and KDE folks were doing DCOP, which was derived from some X11 ICE thing... Neither of them was that great, and somehow they've both come back to DBUS. I don't honestly know the rhyme or reason

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread erik quanstrom
i was going to say that having Plan 9 ported to your platform seemed like a bad omen for your company, but equally valid is the observation that being a platform vender (other than Apple) is bad for your company. ibm seems to be doing ok. but sequent, the original home of ken's fs kernels,

[9fans] Fwd: [coreboot] ELC 2009 videos and slides

2009-08-08 Thread ron minnich
some interesting talks in here, esp. the boot time reduction one. ron -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se Date: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM Subject: [coreboot] ELC 2009 videos and slides To: coreb...@coreboot.org

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
anyway, to ron's question, for those keeping score: Sun: released their stuff; recently acquired by Oracle. NeXT: acquired by Apple, ate it from within. MIPS: acquired by SGI. a smaller MIPS was then spit out when SGI realized Itanium was their future (oops). SGI: went backrupt, twice, then

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Tim Newsham
probably the easiest of the three to deal with, if someone were really, really inclined. but really: don't be. these are kernels for very, very outdated platforms, some of which even eBay has trouble turning up. cobbling That's besides the point. This stuff should be saved for posterity, and