Re: [9fans] Question on /net with respect to anonymity

2010-03-17 Thread Rahul Murmuria
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: However, the absence of ipfilters / iptables means, the gateways really have no history information and no control over who is having access to either of its interfaces. If I mounted my gateway's /net onto my machine, I

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. i think that's a little unfair. they did produce something but underestimated the time and treasure required to make a prototype even moderately usable. had it been only the lack of software, they could have fixed it, but they were stuck too

Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-17 Thread Noah Evans
Doing shell debugging I wrote a fork tracer that would setproc() the return value of every fork call if non-zero. That worked fine if only the parent did the forking but it was a pain if different processes forked at different times it was even more useless when the forked process immediately

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread h...@mimosa.com
On Mar 16, 7:40 pm, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. No, it was not vapour. You can buy it here,

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread maht
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. One of these days I'll have something like this on my desk http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9311

Re: [9fans] install onto P5Q-Pro SATA drives

2010-03-17 Thread kokamoto
It`s possible to install the Plan 9 distribution onto Asus P5Q-Pro motherboard with two SATA HDD drive and a SATA DVD-RAM/±R/±RWdrive with 4 GB memory. reports of Asus P5Q-Pro + ahci (fossil+venti+auth+cpu server) after above time (1) It looks like to be able to read SATA CDROM, such that we

Re: [9fans] install onto P5Q-Pro SATA drives

2010-03-17 Thread erik quanstrom
(1) It looks like to be able to read SATA CDROM, such that we can see directories, files at the top level of /n/cdrom. However, it fails to read the files under deeper levels, say such as /n/cdrom/sys/src/9/pc/pc. In short we cannot read cdrom correctly. if you want to try the new

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Stuart Morrow
On 3/16/10, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. I'm been using the same phone since 2003 - the only phone I've ever owned - so I obviously don't care (or know) much about smart

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Stuart Morrow
On 3/17/10, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: as to hardware/software: i'm often struck at how badly hardware designers still misunderstand how the software will want to see things, and not just on things like the openmoko. I'm often struck at how badly software designers still

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Hmm.. There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4. If only p9 was running on top of L4 :) Get cracking Tim! how hard

Re: [9fans] install onto P5Q-Pro SATA drives

2010-03-17 Thread kokamoto
if you want to try the new sata stuff, there's prebuilt kernels and source at ftp://ftp.quanstro.net/other. I'd like to have it in sources, because every new commer can try it first. I looked your new sources like a name of new-E820Atom Unfortunately it requires lots of changes to the

Re: [9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody with more experience than me with this kind of debugging have any experience they'd like to share? Yes. Take this thing I've done and make it more complete, then write strace() for Plan 9, done. I may do it before

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:35 AM, h...@mimosa.com h...@mimosa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 7:40 pm, rminn...@gmail.com (ron minnich) wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure

Re: [9fans] install onto P5Q-Pro SATA drives

2010-03-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 17 11:17:05 EDT 2010, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: I looked your new sources like a name of new-E820Atom Unfortunately it requires lots of changes to the structure of kernel device tree. Can't you rewrite them not dremand, say such as /sys/include/fits.h(?, sorry I don't

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Jack Johnson
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day on battery might actually be worth it, and the feature is so damn trivial

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day

[9fans] 9vx and email

2010-03-17 Thread hugo rivera
Hello, I've been searching through the man pages and 9fans archive and I am unable to figure out how to correctly setup plan9 to read and write mail. I've added my mail servers in different places (i.e. /rc/bin/termrc, /lib/ndb/local, /mail/lib/rewrite.gateway), ran factotum, ran upas/fs but I'm

Re: [9fans] 9vx and email

2010-03-17 Thread erik quanstrom
I've been searching through the man pages and 9fans archive and I am unable to figure out how to correctly setup plan9 to read and write mail. I've added my mail servers in different places (i.e. /rc/bin/termrc, /lib/ndb/local, /mail/lib/rewrite.gateway), ran factotum, ran upas/fs but I'm

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Axel Belinfante
On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread Axel Belinfante
On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there is one smart feature that for me would be useful enough that carrying a

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-17 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Axel Belinfante axel.belinfa...@cs.utwente.nl wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.com wrote:

[9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Hi! I'm trying to set up an application(don't ask :) ) on my LAN that more-or-less requires the ability to perform dynamic updates of DNS. I'm currently using a Plan 9 system to serve DNS, but DHCP is being served by a FreeBSD machine (because it supplies the correct info for non-Plan 9

Re: [9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
(because it supplies the correct info for non-Plan 9 hosts). What info did your hosts need that Plan 9's dhcpd didn't supply?

Re: [9fans] 9vx on MacOS X: problem with contrib

2010-03-17 Thread Federico G. Benavento
there is a bug with wstats somewhere, I think ron got around this on linux. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Semka Novikov m...@sdfgh153.ru wrote: Hi there, i'm newbie in Plan 9 so may be this is common mistake (but i still can't google it). I have Intel mac with 10.6 OSX and 9vx from official

Re: [9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
(because it supplies the correct info for non-Plan 9 hosts). What info did your hosts need that Plan 9's dhcpd didn't supply? Specifically, Plan 9's dhcpd does not supply a context-specific DNS suffix (ie, default domain name), which Windows systems need in order to resolve hosts by short

Re: [9fans] 9vx on MacOS X: problem with contrib

2010-03-17 Thread ron minnich
best bet is to run this under ktrace/strace or whatever you use on a mac nowadays and let us get a look at it. ron

Re: [9fans] DNS dynamic update

2010-03-17 Thread Steve Simon
It looks from my reading from of dhcpd.c that you could just tweek windows (the registry I assume) and make windows ask for the domain, in which case dhcpd should supply it. If you hate this idea then I think the change to add windows specific dhcp options would be easy - there is already a